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The Trump administration is seeking to stop the EU, UK and Japan from striking separate trade deals with China as it tries to impose economic isolation on its Asian rival.

The US’s revamped Nafta trade deal with Canada and Mexico includes a provision that would require its two neighbours to give notification of any trade negotiations with a “non-market economy”. That clause could also force those countries to disclose details of any talks and allow Washington to walk away from the Nafta agreement if such a separate deal were completed.

The measure triggered a backlash in Canada, where critics said it enshrined a loss of sovereignty for Ottawa and limited its own trade policy.

But a senior White House official said the US would try to replicate it in other negotiations, including talks that have started with the EU and Japan as well as future talks with the UK after it leaves the 28-member bloc.

“Will this be a precedent for the future? Absolutely,” a senior White House official said on Saturday. “It is important that we make sure that any agreements we enter into do not ultimately get undermined and [that] China does not find a backdoor way to gain access to the US market.”

The provision — in article 32.10 of the US-Mexico-Canada-Agreement, as Nafta was rebranded — was striking because it offers US allies a binary choice between Washington and Beijing.

“The political message is more significant than the legal effect,” said Roland Paris, a professor of international affairs at the University of Ottawa. “The message to Canada is ‘Watch yourself with China’, and the message to China is ‘Keep your hands off North America’.”

Justin Trudeau, Canada’s prime minister, had launched exploratory trade talks with Beijing. The Trump administration raised this as a concern during the talks, leading them to insist on the clause about non-market economies (NMEs).

Jorge Guajardo, a former Mexican ambassador to China and a senior director at McLarty Associates in Washington, said the clause would be welcomed in Mexicosince it had no intention of striking a deal with Beijing in the near future.

“It is fair to say unless China becomes a market economy they should not be trading on an equal footing with the rest of the world,” Mr Guajardo said. But he added: “This is [Trump’s] version of George W Bush’s ‘Either you’re for us or you’re against us [at the time of the Iraq war]’.”

Arthur Dong, a professor at Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business, said the US push to constrain other countries in dealing with China marked a “very significant departure from the previous US trade posture” and “nothing less than an intended strategic reset of the global trade order”.

“Should the EU or Japan contemplate a direct trade deal with China, they will have to act very cautiously as there will be consequences to such actions,” Mr Dong said.

Dan Price, a former senior official in the George W Bush administration, added: “This is essentially extending US secondary sanctions architecture through a trade agreement: if you wish to have preferential access to the US market, you may not conclude FTAs with countries we don’t like.”

The Trump administration appears to have every intention of applying the same restraints in dealing with China to the UK in any future talks with the US after next year’s departure from the EU.

“I’m not going to say we are absolutely going to put an NME clause in that arrangement . . .[but] if we do enter into an FTA with the UK, are we going to say, you need to work with us on provisions to counter the biggest threat to the global trading system? Absolutely,” the White House official said.

The likelihood of America’s trading partners moving to ink deals with China is fairly small. The US, Japan and the EU have already been working together to try to define a common position on unfair trade practices by Beijing. There are scant expectations of Brussels rushing to strike an agreement with Beijing or that China might try to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade deal that includes Japan and other Pacific nations.

Nonetheless the US seems sensitive to such possibilities.

“We have been very concerned about the efforts of China to essentially undermine the US position by entering into arrangements with others,” the senior White House official said. “Our view is that the threat that China poses is something we need to work on . . . and we need to be unified with that.”

China has reacted with irritation. In a statement to Canadian reporters, China’s embassy in Ottawa said the clause reflected “dishonest behaviour” that violated the sovereignty of nations and reflected false definitions of market and non-market economies.

The US stance does have a recent parallel, in a different setting. Just last month, Emmanuel Macron, the French president, said his country would not accept trade deals with countries that did not abide by the Paris climate accord— a thinly veiled reference to the US, which has pulled out of the pact.

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LOL What a desperation. Do the Americans really think they can forcefully prohibit EU, UK and Japan from separate trade deals with China?

The EU and UK will be showing a big middle finger to the USA just like slave India did by going for the S-400 deal LOL
 
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LOL What a desperation. Do the Americans really think they can force EU, UK and Japan from striking separate trade deals with China?

The EU and UK will be showing a big middle finger to the USA just like slave India did by going for the S-400 deal LOL
US is turning into a pussy. Let's not compare US empire to any historical past empires. Roman, and Mongolian empire would have waged war instead of begging her lapdogs to stop making economic deals. :rofl:
 
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Never since the collapse of USSR, the world see such an animosity between 2 giants.

We are now in cold war 2.0.
 
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LOL What a desperation. Do the Americans really think they can force EU, UK and Japan from striking separate trade deals with China?

The EU and UK will be showing a big middle finger to the USA just like slave India did by going for the S-400 deal LOL

The US had now effectively shut out China from the North American market.

Expect that to expand to Japan and the EU next.
 
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LOL What a desperation. Do the Americans really think they can force EU, UK and Japan from striking separate trade deals with China?

The EU and UK will be showing a big middle finger to the USA just like slave India did by going for the S-400 deal LOL
yea , look whos talking , runaway taxi driver from some pi$$ed on bankrupt nation i guess . yea usa is the only super power now and will remain for long long time , it is a fact . and bharat is no slave to anyone . so get your facts right . one thing more , trump is a great leader and a successful businessman and he will surely burst all the myths china has about herself . bye for now
 
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The premise of moving jobs to China is because USA elites are unwilling to pay their workers.

Good luck for USA, maybe her elites change their mind.

yea , look whos talking , runaway taxi driver from some pi$$ed on bankrupt nation i guess . yea usa is the only super power now and will remain for long long time , it is a fact . and bharat is no slave to anyone . so get your facts right . one thing more , trump is a great leader and a successful businessman and he will surely burst all the myths china has about herself . bye for now

The US had now effectively shut out China from the North American market.

Expect that to expand to Japan and the EU next.
 
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as well as future talks with the UK after it leaves the 28-member bloc.

The EU may be able to resist more because of it's aize but I feel the UK would not be able to resist much.

In the EU, the UK would've had a lot more power and say. It would be a major player in the politics of a major power center in global politics (EU).

Now, after Brexit, it will essentially end up being a satellite of the US.


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The premise of moving jobs to China is because USA elites are unwilling to pay their workers.

Good luck for USA, maybe her elites change their mind.

no one wants to pay, fat lazy a$$es. They are slow, fat and most of all, they feel entitled. Asian countries provide cheap labor, and fast workers. Every business-man in their right mind would choose the later.
 
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yea , look whos talking , runaway taxi driver from some pi$$ed on bankrupt nation i guess . yea usa is the only super power now and will remain for long long time , it is a fact . and bharat is no slave to anyone . so get your facts right . one thing more , trump is a great leader and a successful businessman and he will surely burst all the myths china has about herself . bye for now
Yeah look who is replying.., An asshole from some shitty nation derived of toilets and dreaming of becoming supapowa. Yeah trump is great leader. World should worship trump like Poor Indians do. You idiots have humiliated Putin by getting benefits from him and not worshipping him. After S400 Putin deseves to be worshipped.
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Japan is a bank based economy as opposed to a market based...just putting it out there (so is France & Germany)
 
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Trump is playing the car tax card very well vs Canada, Mexico, and will be with Japan, EU (Germany, France...) Excited to see how China can manage this strategy...
 
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yea , look whos talking , runaway taxi driver from some pi$$ed on bankrupt nation i guess . yea usa is the only super power now and will remain for long long time , it is a fact . and bharat is no slave to anyone . so get your facts right . one thing more , trump is a great leader and a successful businessman and he will surely burst all the myths china has about herself . bye for now

LOL says the little rapist from ragtag Hindustan.

Get back to begging and convincing us how CPEC is supposed to be a debt trap LOL Fvcking rat.

You don't have any faith in your dad's anti-missile system? Why do you buy Russian S-400 if you can get superpower anti-missile system from daddy USA? LOL

Keep your ragtag BS to yourself. Your master trembles when it hears China. It is obsessed about China. It has to announce to the whole world how China and Russia are a threat to its "supremacy". LOL It has to beg other nations not to have trade agreements with China.

So much for being a superpower LOL

Trump is playing the car tax card very well vs Canada, Mexico, and will be with Japan, EU (Germany, France...) Excited to see how China can manage this strategy...

You think the EU will succumb to US pressure? Think again. The EU has already had enough of Trump blackmail. Trump cannot even get the EU on its side on the Iranian nuke deal LOL

Trade is give and take. If Trump does tighten the screws the US could suffer the consequences of protectionism. What one side can do the other can also. US did not solely become a superpower by being a lone ranger in town.

The US had now effectively shut out China from the North American market.

Expect that to expand to Japan and the EU next.

Shut China out? LOL China is your main supplier of goods. China is the only country on the planet that can fulfil US production requirements. LOL you can impose as many tarrifs as you like. Tarrifs are a double edged sword. Remember that.

Secondly you can't do shit to the EU. Trump can only try to flex muscles with weaker opponents. The EU won't budge.
 
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LOL says the little rapist from ragtag Hindustan.

Get back to begging and convincing us how CPEC is supposed to be a debt trap LOL Fvcking rat.

You don't have any faith in your dad's anti-missile system? Why do you buy Russian S-400 if you can get superpower anti-missile system from your daddy USA? LOL

Keep your ragtag BS to yourself. Your master trembles when it hears China. It is obsessed about China. It has to announce to the whole world how China and Russia are a threat to its "supremacy". LOL It has to beg other nations not to have trade agreements with China.

So much for being a superpower LOL



You think the EU will succumb to US pressure? Think again. The EU has already had enough of Trump blackmail. Trump cannot even get the EU on its side on the Iranian nuke deal LOL

Trade is give and take. If Trump does tighten the screws the US could suffer the consequences of protectionism. What one side can do the other can also. US did not solely become a superpower by being a lone ranger in town.



Shut China out? LOL China is your main supplier of goods. China is the only country on the planet that can fulfil US production requirements.

Secondly you can't do shit to the EU. Trump can only try to flex muscles with weaker opponents. The EU won't budge.
I hope you don't care about Indians and Vietnamese.They just hate China, So they have no reason.
 
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