Trump says U.S. won’t sell F-35 fighter jets to Turkey

[Killuminati]

What people dont get is the situation of east-med gas sources. The importance of this is so big that Turkey doesnt hesitate a second to go in war against western powers because they are all like hyenas deployed their warships to that region.

They already warn and threaten Turkey to stop its gas expeditions.

It is quite clear now who is forming a threat to Turkey. S400 is therefore nothing but a logical but very strategic step by Turkey.

 

[kingQamaR]

Why not? In a equal Union, between China and Turkey to co-produce stealth planes is so logical. Don’t know why it’s not happening, Both these countries have expertise they can pitch in and share! China on plane design and Turkey on its in-house avionics and Weapons. This is probably the best solution I can think of! For both these powerful nations.

 

[Deino]

Can you guys please stay on topic?
Ethnics, politics and so on is irrelevant and pdf topic.

 

[CAN_TR]

The UK has started delaying the development of the TFX and ERDOGAN criticized the British government about it
Turkey should work with Russia to develop the TFX and Turbofan Engine

Rolls Royce didn't delay anything Goverment insisted on giving the tender to TRMotor, RR refused to work with them, RR together with KaleAero formed a joint venture -> TAEC.

Rolls Royce has repeatedly made clear that it's unwilling to share its intelectual property with TRMotor (BMC).

 

[MMM-E]

Rolls Royce didn't delay anything Goverment insisted on giving the tender to TRMotor, RR refused to work with them, RR together with KaleAero formed a joint venture -> TAEC.

Rolls Royce has repeatedly made clear that it's unwilling to share its intelectual property with TRMotor (BMC).

ilk okul bilgilerini yazmayın kardeşim
Ben BAE Systems ve Ingiliz Hükümetinden bahsediyorum
. cıkmışsın hicbir resmi anlaşması olmayan RR dan bahsediyorsun
bir kac gün önce ERDOGAN Ingiltereyi ve MAY Hükümetini TF-X projesini yavaşlatmak ile eleştirdi

I'm talking about BAE Systems and the British Government.
You are talking about RR without any formal agreement
a few days ago ERDOGAN criticized the UK and MAY government for delaying the TF-X project

to work with the British is waste time , the UK and the US will not give Turkey even Pistol technology
because of Israel's security , also PKK/YPG Terror corridor in Syria and gas/oil issue in the Eastern Mediterranean

 

[CAN_TR]

Please enlight us where BAE systems delayed the project, BAE Systems only provides engineering and developing assistance. After Temel Kotil's words in Paris Air Show everything runs according plan.

 

[MMM-E]

Please enlight us where BAE systems delayed the project, BAE Systems only provides engineering and developing assistance. After Temel Kotil's words in Paris Air Show everything runs according plan.

ask to president ERDOGAN who a few days ago criticized the UK and MAY government for delaying the TF-X project

 

[Deino]

ask to president ERDOGAN who a few days ago criticized the UK and MAY government for delaying the TF-X project

And President Erdogan is best known for being unbiased and always telling the truth, especially if one expects - IMO naively - that the Western engine maker will provide füll ToT.

 

[MMM-E]

And President Erdogan is best known for being unbiased and always telling the truth, especially if one expects - IMO naively - that the Western engine maker will provide füll ToT.

Rolls Royce executives and British ministers have told Turkey that they cannot accept an arrangement that would see TR Motor own and manage the intellectual property of the programme

British dont give IP rights to Turkey
The UK government does not want to fully lift export controls. They say what if in 10 years time there is a huge row with another country and we want to stop selling this to them?

 

[500]

max $8-9 billion , not $12 billion

12 bln see a link.

The US used F-35 card to save CIA agent BRUNSON
and now The US want to use F-35 card to protect PKK/YPG Terrorists from the Turkish Armed Forces

Assad and Russia created and armed PKK.

btw Zionist lobby in the US and Israel are working on blocking sale of F-35s to Turkey since 2013

U are implyng that Erdogan is Zionist agent?

F-15 , F-16 , F-35 also can be destroyed with one S400 missile

Destroying F-35 is much much harder since its stealthy and fast moving. And with one S-400 u can buy a SQUADRON of F-35.

SU-35 is far better than F-16 block52

No.

what about Stealth ? even old Soviet S-125 shoot down so-called stealth Aircraft F-117 in 1999

In 1991 in Iraq F-117 flew before the Tomahawk missiles and took out high value targets without loses. What happened in Yugoslavia was overconfidence that made them fly on same route for 3 times and S-125 was modified with French thermal camera.

in a few years many countries will have Radars to detect F-35

LOL, any radar can detect F-35, the problem is in RANGE.

for example Meter wave radars can detect stealth aircraft because modern stealth aircraft are mainly designed to avoid detection by microwave radar, and are less stealthy to meter wave radar

Meter wave radars are very bulky (ie easily destroyed) and inacurate they can't guide missiles.

SU-57 has great avionics and air superiority capabilty to beat F-16 Viper , F-15 Eagle and Rafale of Greece , Egypt , France and Israel

Israel already has F-35. Bye bye Su-57.

and according to Sukhoi, Su-57's radar cross section is reduced to an average figure of 0.3-0.4m2 compared to 15m2 for the Su-27

Thats very weak for stealth.

 

[Malik Alashter]

And President Erdogan is best known for being unbiased and always telling the truth, especially if one expects - IMO naively - that the Western engine maker will provide füll ToT.

I even doubt they supply engines to the TFX let alone with tot

 

[Deino]

Rolls Royce executives and British ministers have told Turkey that they cannot accept an arrangement that would see TR Motor own and manage the intellectual property of the programme

British dont give IP rights to Turkey
The UK government does not want to fully lift export controls. They say what if in 10 years time there is a huge row with another country and we want to stop selling this to them?

I even doubt they supply engines to the TFX let alone with tot

Exactly my point... but it seems at least certain circles in Turkey exactly expect this, which is plain naive. No Western engine maker will sell its crown jewels.

 

[Malik Alashter]

And with one S-400 u can buy a SQUADRON of F-35.

Excuse me one S-400 costing around 1 billion so how much s the price of the is f-35 and how many f-35 per squadron thanks

French thermal camera

That's funny Excuse me got that ..... So you try to say a thermal camera guided a blind sa-2 to down that f-117 tell me you disrespect our intelligence!?

 

[MMM-E]

Exactly my point... but it seems at least certain circles in Turkey exactly expect this, which is plain naive. No Western engine maker will sell its crown jewels.

then Turkey should stop losing years to wait for british technology

Turkey and Russia togetger can develop everything and this is better than nothing

 

[Malik Alashter]

then Turkey should stop losing years to wait for british technology

Turkey and Russia togetger can develop everything and this is better than nothing

Well you have to have smart and wise decision maker to grab that truth! except you dont
See your problem is that you think oh we are NATO member then we can do it but that means nothing to those who have control over some serious tech like the 5th Gen fighter you've got to know this is not a trainer plane where they can have a blind spot over it this is a 5th Gen fighter it's something serious not a toy!?