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Trump said that he does not want the US to leave NATO, but the allies must pay dues

Well, even if EU needs US. EU definitely does not want to pay during Trump admin. That is a losing deal.
Then US will withdraw some troops, to save some money, as well as making EU insecure a little bit.

Also, we witness US interfered less in Syria and North Africa. EU want US interfere, because EU herself is incapable.
Interestingly, Turkey and Russia played a bigger role in Syria and North Africa than EU combined.
EU can shout, sanction economically, but a dwarf militarily.
In other words, EU is incapable of nothing militarily without US.
 
Then US will withdraw some troops, to save some money, as well as making EU insecure a little bit.

Also, we witness US interfered less in Syria and North Africa. EU want US interfere, because EU herself is incapable.
Interestingly, Turkey and Russia played a bigger role in Syria and North Africa than EU combined.
EU can shout, sanction economically, but a dwarf militarily.
In other words, EU is incapable of nothing militarily without US.

The strong do not need friends
 
Then US will withdraw some troops, to save some money, as well as making EU insecure a little bit.

Also, we witness US interfered less in Syria and North Africa. EU want US interfere, because EU herself is incapable.
Interestingly, Turkey and Russia played a bigger role in Syria and North Africa than EU combined.
EU can shout, sanction economically, but a dwarf militarily.
In other words, EU is incapable of nothing militarily without US.
I would not agree with EU wants US to interfere with Syria and Libya. If they did, they would have to pay or commit troops. Such power vacuum in those region will draw Islamic extremist. I disagree on your assessment. If they intervene, they will have to stay and it will cost money.
 
Deep state will make sure trump lose this election.

Trump has already won.

What sane American would vote LootersLivesMatters supporters (democrats)?

Trump is good for American people, and is good for USA ruling elite too. They dont want to be the police of world no more.

By the other side, NATO members should increase their military spending, but if they use right the money. It doesnt have sense spending the money in military hardware made in foreign countries with backdoors.
 
Trump has already won.

What sane American would vote LootersLivesMatters supporters (democrats)?

Trump is good for American people, and is good for USA ruling elite too. They dont want to be the police of world no more.

By the other side, NATO members should increase their military spending, but if they use right the money. It doesnt have sense spending the money in military hardware made in foreign countries with backdoors.

mufuggin cracka *** comin in an talkin trash again
like white trash
man whats wrong with yo white folks goin in and tryin to talk up the talk like that it aint right honkey for real dawg aint nobody sayin what u be sayin
 
How much India would like to pay for US protection?
10 million women

Was proposed before, will be done now

https://www.scmp.com/article/626178/mao-offered-10m-women-trade-us

India needs to kneel and kiss USA toes plus protection fee. :enjoy:

But when comes to real fighting, US will still not do the job for Indians. :enjoy:
We attempted to kiss US toes the last time this happened

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Hopefully we will succeed this time :enjoy:
 
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The EU will have to spend more for its own security in the long term, that's the only sustainable relationship with the US.

The US can't possibly bear the security burden for the EU forever, and the EU can't rely on the US for security forever. WW2 is more than 70 years ago, and Russia is unlikely to revitalize its economy to fund its military in the long term; the US has lesser compelling reasons to provide security for Europe today.

I see it as a win-win and the sustainable way forward for both the US and the EU.
 
Trump said that he does not want the US to leave NATO,
but the allies must pay dues

JULY 11, 2020 2:25 PM GMT+0300

US resident Donald Trump said in an interview with newspaper columnist Mark Thyssen that he does not want the United States to leave NATO, but the allies must pay dues.

According to former White House national security adviser John Bolton in his book, The Room where it happened: the White House memoir, Trump wanted to threaten NATO leaders at the 2018 summit with the US leaving the Alliance if they did not pay contributions of 2% of GDP.

According to him, after that, he discussed Trump’s threat to withdraw from NATO with Secretary of state Mike Pompeo; they decided to convince him to stay in the Alliance, but perhaps by reducing US contributions.

As a result, in his speech, Trump did as Bolton advised him – he declared his support for NATO, but criticized those countries of the Alliance that still have small defense budgets.

In an interview with Thyssen, Trump complained that 2% of GDP is also “too little.”

When asked by a columnist whether Trump wants the US to leave NATO, Trump replied in the negative. “No, I don’t want to leave… But I want them to pay their fair share,” Trump said.

https://freenews.live/trump-said-that-he-does-not-want-the-us-to-leave-nato/
darn, he must need the money pretty darn badly then..
(no surprise, if you watch US national news as often as i do)

however, it's also no surprise if you just think of how the US took care of the post-WW2 world and it's security needs.

i'm happy to see this partial retreat by the US however.

we Europeans and other continents have to start to see to our own regional economic- and security-needs.
with COVID-19 travelling the world for the next few years or so, international air travel will be more restricted.

that's only one of the reasons i fully support the long distance train lines into Europe that the Chinese are now building.
we need it for dropshipping purposes.
let's bring back the glory of the "made in China" logo :)
 
No buying the US gadgets and paying for the deployment, no US protection...

As for the Western Europeans, start practicing Russian...
 
Trump was right again...calling them out in 2020 for napping.
The EU will have to spend more for its own security in the long term, that's the only sustainable relationship with the US.

The US can't possibly bear the security burden for the EU forever, and the EU can't rely on the US for security forever. WW2 is more than 70 years ago, and Russia is unlikely to revitalize its economy to fund its military in the long term; the US has lesser compelling reasons to provide security for Europe today.

I see it as a win-win and the sustainable way forward for both the US and the EU.


NATO boosts defenses in Europe, says it faces ‘gravest threat’ to its security in decades​


NATO has agreed to strengthen its defenses in Europe in the face of Russia’s continuing aggression toward Ukraine.

Speaking after an extraordinary summit of the military alliance in Brussels on Thursday, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg told reporters that the organization has collectively agreed to reinforce its defense capabilities in the region.

“Today NATO leaders agreed to reset our deterrents and defense for the longer term to face a new security reality. On land, we will have substantially more forces in the eastern part of the alliance at higher readiness, with more pre-positioned equipment and supplies,” he said.

“In the air, we will deploy more jets and strengthen our integrated air and missile defense. At sea, we will have carrier strike groups, submarines and significant numbers of combat ships on a persistent basis,” he added, with members also set to strengthen their cyber defenses.

Further details would be decided at the alliance’s next summit in June, Stoltenberg said. A statement from the alliance at the conclusion of its meeting called Russia’s aggression against Ukraine, “the gravest threat to Euro-Atlantic security in decades.”

“Russia’s war against Ukraine has shattered peace in Europe and is causing enormous human suffering and destruction,” it said.

Global leaders gathered in Europe on Thursday to discuss the war in Ukraine and how to help the country survive Russia’s onslaught. As well as the extraordinary NATO summit taking place in Brussels there are meetings of EU leaders and the G-7.




Ahead of the summit, Stoltenberg said the alliance’s meeting was taking place as leaders faced “the most serious security crisis in a generation.”

Leaders would address this crisis, he said, and its implications “for Ukraine, for NATO and for the whole international rules-based order.”

Stoltenberg, who has extended his tenure as secretary general by a year, said NATO had agreed to increase its military presence in the eastern part of the alliance, with around 40,000 extra soldiers deployed to the region and that significant air and naval assets had been placed under direct NATO command.

NATO had already earlier announced the establishment of four new battlegroups in the eastern part of the alliance, in Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary and Slovakia. These four new battlegroups will be in addition to four other battlegroups already present in the Baltic countries and Poland.

Stoltenberg made separate comments to CNBC Thursday in which he said that “President [Vladimir] Putin has made a big mistake and that is to launch a war, to wage a war, against an independent sovereign nation.”

“He has underestimated the strength of the Ukrainian people, the bravery of the Ukrainian people and armed forces,” he told CNBC’s Hadley Gamble.

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy also addressed NATO members Thursday and claimed during his speech that Russia has used phosphorus bombs in an attack.

“This morning we had phosphorus bombs from Russia, people were killed, children were killed,” Zelenskyy said during an address via videolink to the NATO summit.

Separately, early on Thursday, the governor of the eastern Luhansk region claimed that four people had been killed after shelling and the use of phosphorus. The governor attached stills and a video, which have not been verified, that he claimed showed buildings destroyed in the attack.

It has not been possible to independently verify the claims made by Zelenskyy and the governor of Luhansk. Zelenskyy provided no evidence in his address.

On Wednesday, the Pentagon was unable to confirm the use of phosphorous when contacted by NBC’s Dan DeLuce.

Zelenskyy also appealed to NATO leaders on Thursday to increase military support for the country.

Russia “wants to go further, against eastern members of NATO, the Baltic states, Poland for sure,” Zelenskyy said in a pre-recorded video address to the NATO summit, Reuters reported.

“NATO has yet to show what the alliance can do to save people,” he said.
 
Trump was right. The EU has long taken advantage of the US relying on it to cover it's defence needs. I bet they wish they'd listened now.

I can tell you something as well for nothing right now - a time will come when the Western world will regret it's reliance on imported fossil fuels.

At least a decade has been wasted bowing to the interests of the oil lobby when a green revolution could have taken place.
 
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