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There's a strange thing about the fire and fury that President Donald Trump is planning to wreak on the foreigners killing American manufacturing: The foreigners don't seem to care.
News of the planned 25 percent tariffs on steel and 10 percent levy on aluminum imports broke during the lunch break on the Shanghai Stock Exchange on Thursday. Shares in Baoshan Iron & Steel Co., China's biggest listed producer, promptly fell the most since, um, Wednesday.

It was the same pattern when markets opened Friday in Asia, with the drops from Japan's biggest producer Nippon Steel & Sumitomo Metal Corp. and Korea's paramount Posco pretty much in line with the declines they suffered two days earlier. That previous slump wasn't prompted by anything going on in Washington, but by an index of Chinese manufacturing that unexpectedly came in about 0.8 points below forecast.
That's to be expected. For all the sturm und drang coming out of the White House, China's trade in steel and aluminum with the U.S. isn't all that significant. The larger steel side of it represents about 0.2 percent of the global trade, and just 3.3 percent of China's exports to America, on a par with the trade in shoes. Electronics, machinery, furniture, clothing, toys and vehicles -- some of which contain substantial amounts of tariff-exposed metal -- are far more important.

The thing that China's steelmakers care much more about is their domestic market, which consumes about half of the world's steel and has been doing rather well of late. Thanks to a wave of mergers and the shuttering of small-scale electric arc furnaces in recent years, profits from blast furnaces have been enjoying their best run this decade, according to a costs-based index compiled by Bloomberg Intelligence.
It's true there is some connection between China's domestic market and the global one. When Beijing tried to rebalance the economy toward consumption and away from heavy industry in 2013, local demand suffered and exports rose. Still, the overwhelming majority of that product went to South Korea, alongside nations in south and southeast Asia and the Middle East that used Chinese steel to plug gaps in their own production as they increased capacity. The stream of metal that went to the U.S. during those years has already dwindled to a trickle as a result of existing trade actions.
If, as is commonly asserted in the U.S., China was surreptitiously exploiting back doors through third countries, it's striking that the only two nations among China's top 10 export destinations that are also on America's top 10 import list are South Korea and Taiwan, which are major producers in their own right.

As Gadfly has argued, the Trump administration's focus on metal manufacturing misunderstands the nature of America's trade with the world, where the deficit is not in raw materials, but in finished products.
It's cheaper for U.S. consumers to buy things made abroad, and that's what they've been doing for many years. Little wonder, then, that U.S. steelmakers have been reluctant to invest, showing some of the lowest rates of capital spending and R&D globally.
That refusal to spend now looks to have got its reward in the form of Washington's new protectionist stance. But the more innovative automative, machinery and aerospace manufacturers that consume American metal are the ones employing more workers and showing better prospects for the country's economy. Lifting the materials costs they face by protecting inefficient local mills is only going to exacerbate their problems.

This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of Bloomberg LP and its owners.
David Fickling is a Bloomberg Gadfly columnist covering commodities, as well as industrial and consumer companies. He has been a reporter for Bloomberg News, Dow Jones, the Wall Street Journal, the Financial Times and the Guardian.

Baosteel also fell on Friday, so the placid reaction on Thursday may have just been because no one was reading the news but even then, the percent drop was about in line with the stock's percent fall on Tuesday.

https://www.bloombergquint.com/opinion/2018/03/02/trump-roars-china-yawns-u-s-shoots-itself-in-foot
 
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Its funny , China has a 230% debt crisis and somehow ppl here think less trade with USA , who are the Chinese bread & butter is good for them.

What a world.
 
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It really didn't help US steel industry and I doubt Trump can make it any better.
they can get spanked for protectionist attitudes which will not go well with the WTO
 
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Its funny , China has a 230% debt crisis and somehow ppl here think less trade with USA , who are the Chinese bread & butter is good for them.

What a world.
Yawn. I didnt kno I could owe myself, that so called debt is produced abd absorbed into China, it could be 2000%, it doesnt make any difference as long as it nots owed to private institutions or national treasury. Last I checked most private chinese firms are doing wuite well which means that the SOE’s are the ones who owe the depbt. How convenient than that the chinese government will never pressure CRRC to pay them back, ahh the glories of the Chinese model!
 
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Yawn. I didnt kno I could owe myself, that so called debt is produced abd absorbed into China, it could be 2000%, it doesnt make any difference as long as it nots owed to private institutions or national treasury. Last I checked most private chinese firms are doing wuite well which means that the SOE’s are the ones who owe the depbt. How convenient than that the chinese government will never pressure CRRC to pay them back, ahh the glories of the Chinese model!
Lol, that guy doesn't know a single thing about national debt. 230% are every debt in China, which include my personal mortgage. The government is only browsing 56% for both internal and external. Its literary impossible for the Chinese government to have debt default. that's why China credit rating is A+, and a pathetic 'supa power' is BBB- garbage.
 
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2017年美国商务部国际贸易局(ITA)的报告显示,尽管生产了全球约一半的钢铁,中国大陆仅排在美国钢铁进口来源地的第11位;美国也并非中国大陆钢铁出口的主要目的地,仅排在第26位。

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美国钢铁进口来源地TOP10

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中国钢铁出口目的地TOP10

至于铝产品,美国主要进口来源地包括加拿大(56%)、俄罗斯(8%)和阿联酋(7%)。再加上其占美国钢铁进口量的16%,加拿大不可避免地成为特朗普政府此次关税调整的最大受害国。为此,加拿大很快表态,将采取应对措施来应对特朗普的保护主义。

Similar for aluminium in so far as China's share is concerned. :lol::D
 
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