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Trump may mount pressure to limit Pak nuclear programme

I think Pakistan will be able to defend itself, especially with the Chinese assistance that would surely come with it.

Firstly US will not have to fight as Pakistan will have to heed to any request if it the situation is bad enough, remember after 9/11 how it was we will bomb you back to stone ages and Musharraf came around in minutes. US-Pak war is a long shot but if it happens it will take US a couple of weeks max to do the job Pakistan at best can only bomb India making it worse for them
 
Firstly US will not have to fight as Pakistan will have to heed to any request if it the situation is bad enough, remember after 9/11 how it was we will bomb you back to stone ages and Musharraf came around in minutes. US-Pak war is a long shot but if it happens it will take US a couple of weeks max to do the job Pakistan at best can only bomb India making it worse for them
So in short, you are saying that Pakistan will be defenseless against the US and the US will win the war against Pakistan?

I think the US is far too stretched out, plus they can't take casualties without their Govt. toppling. Pakistan can take a lot of beating and still stand, albeit with Chinese support. Also the larger Sino-Pak nuclear stockpile can damage India massively.
 
I dont think Trump hold more danger to Pakistan then Hillary. He is at least honest about his felling which one should admire. As far as nuclear program is concerned they will have to invade us to stop us and let me tell those who are having thought about cutting Baluchistan and becoming super power that it wont be like Iraq and Afghanistan we know how to fight and protect ourselves and we know how to use our nuclear missiles and what do you think would China be sitting there when there is war in their backyard.
 
So in short, you are saying that Pakistan will be defenseless against the US and the US will win the war against Pakistan?

I think the US is far too stretched out, plus they can't take casualties without their Govt. toppling. Pakistan can take a lot of beating and still stand, albeit with Chinese support. Also the larger Sino-Pak nuclear stockpile can damage India massively.

US take casualties when it tries to occupy land, when it has to put boots on the ground. Both in Afghanistan or Iraq it took US hardly 15-20 odd days and 20-30 odd casualties to bring the adversary to it's knees from air. Pakistan will be no different. China will not fight US for Pakistan and nobody will use nuke as it will mean end of their existence. Tamely surrendering to US wishes will be the only option.
 
Unless our next Army chief is as Chooza as Kiyani was , than i don't see that happening .. Pakistan will look for its own interests .. I think the new President should focus on the promises he make to his Audience by First start working on Wall by Mexican money , and Deporting or stopping Muslims from coming to US .. by doing this 4 years will pass :)
 
Trump's first day at the Oval Office after being elected President.

First briefing by the CIA, Pentagon, FBI:

Trump: We must destroy ISIS immediately. No delays.

CIA: We cannot do that, sir. We created them along with Turkey, Saudi, Qatar and others.

Trump: The Democrats created them.

CIA: We created ISIS, sir. You need them or else you would lose funding from the natural gas lobby.

Trump: Stop funding Pakistan. Let India deal with them.

CIA: We can't do that.

Trump: Why is that?

CIA: India will cut Balochistan out of Pak.

Trump: I don't care.

CIA: India will have peace in Kashmir. They will stop buying our weapons. They will become a superpower. We have to fund Pakistan to keep India busy in Kashmir.

Trump: But you have to destroy the Taliban.

CIA: Sir, we can't do that. We created the Taliban to keep Russia in check during the 80s. Now they are keeping Pakistan busy and away from their nukes.

Trump: We have to destroy terror sponsoring regimes in the Middle East. Let us start with the Saudis.

Pentagon: Sir, we can't do that. We created those regimes because we wanted their oil. We can't have democracy there, otherwise their people will get that oil - and we cannot let their people own it.

Trump: Then, let us invade Iran.

Pentagon: We cannot do that either, sir.

Trump: Why not?

CIA: We are talking to them, sir.

Trump: What? Why?

CIA: We want our Stealth Drones back. If we attack them, Russia will obliterate us as they did to our buddy ISIS in Syria. Besides we need Iran to keep Israel in check.

Trump: Then let us invade Iraq again.

CIA: Sir, our friends (ISIS) are already occupying 1/3rd of Iraq.

Trump: Why not the whole of Iraq?

CIA: We need the Shi'ite govt of Iraq to keep ISIS in check.

Trump: I am banning Muslims from entering US.

FBI: We can't do that.

Trump: Why not?

FBI: Then our own population will become fearless.

Trump: I am deporting all illegal immigrants to south of the border.

Border patrol: You can't do that, sir.

Trump: Why not?

Border patrol: If they're gone, who will build the wall?

Trump: I am banning H1B visas.

USCIS: You cannot do that.

Trump: Why?

Chief of Staff: If you do so, we'll have to outsource White House operations to Bangalore. Which is in India.

Trump (sweating profusely by now): What the hell should I do as President???

CIA: Enjoy the White House, sir! We will take care of the rest!
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lol..so funny...really enjoyed every bit of it... :-)
 
Trump may mount pressure to limit Pak nuclear programme
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By Ansar Abbasi
November 10, 2016
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ISLAMABAD: The already pro-India America under Donald Trump is expected to pressurize Pakistan to limit its nuclear and strategic missile programme, which has been the urge of the Obama administration but it failed to achieve it because of Islamabad’s plain and unambiguous “No”.

During his pre-election campaign, Trump had spoken, a few times, negatively about Pakistan’s nuclear programme. Once he said that he would want US forces to stay in Afghanistan to ensure that Pak nukes do not go into the hands of extremists.

In an interview in April this year, Trump had termed Pakistan "a vital problem" for the United States (US) "because they have a thing called nuclear weapons", adding, "They have to get a better hold of the situation." Trump also hinted at seeking help from India and other nations to address the “problem” of nuclear-armed Pakistan.

What Trump had said about Pakistan’s nuclear and strategic programme, is already the policy of US administration which under Obama had pressed Pakistan to limit its nuclear and strategic missile programme. With Trump getting into the Oval Office, this pressure is expected to mount on Pakistan.

Sources said that during Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s last year official visit to the United States, President Obama had asked the premier to limit its strategic defence programme. Nawaz Sharif was told that in case Pakistan cooperates and limits its strategic programme, Washington would consider recognizing Islamabad as a nuclear-weapon state. But it was not acceptable to Islamabad.

As already reported by this newspaper last year, the issue was bone of contention between the two countries even before the PM had landed in US. Such was the pressure that Pakistan had told the US administration of the possible cancellation of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s visit to the US to counter Washington’s intent to seriously dent Islamabad’s nuclear and defence strategic programme.

Washington’s draft joint statement for the said visit which was shared with Islamabad for consent, days before the departure of the prime minister to the US, was found offensive by the Pakistani authorities. was also a need to send a message across the globe that Pakistan was a far better country in terms of economic activities and investment. Marriyum said that the PML-N government had crushed the menace of a terrorism to a great extent.

The minister substantiated her contention by pointing out that in 2013 alone, there had been 2,480 suicide attacks and terrorist hits, whereas these had now been reduced to 246 in 2016. She said that the energy crisis was about to end and power loadshedding had also been reduced by half and national economy was stable now. She said a safe, healthy and well-educated Pakistan was the incumbent government’s top priorities.

The minister said that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s daughter Maryam was also working while remaining close to her father and her politics was a manifestation of her maturity.

She said that special attention was being given to sharing details of CPEC with masses. She added it had also been decided to persistently impart training to employees of the state-owned entities and journalists. She insisted there was a need that journalists should abide by the code of conduct and noted in this context the academy of the ministry was being made active.

Earlier, she had exchange of views on various matters with journalists belonging to Jang and The News in a frank manner. Geo's Hamid Mir and PIO Rao Tehsin were also present on the occasion, besides senior officials from her ministry. She lauded provision of modern facilities to journalists of Jang and The News by the Jang Group.

The minister acknowledged the fact the Jang Group had set high standards of journalism. Tahir Khalil and Tariq Butt of The News apprised her of the performance of their respective organisations.

Umar Cheema, Pervaiz Shaukat, Ayub Nasir, Mohi Shah, Waqar Gilani, Fakhar Durrani, Asim Javed, Tanvir Hashmi, Bilal Dar, Atif Sherazi, Asim Yasin, Muhammad Anis, Mumtaz Alvi, Sohail Khan, Khalid Mustafa, Usman Manzoor and Israr Khan were also present on the occasion.
Hillary Or Trump Both have Same Policy for us....... Thats Why we are not worried but its easier 2 manipulate an inexperienced egocentric stupid man then an experienced smart cunning person like Hillary russians support trump not bc they like him but bc they knew this fact and Russia is in alliance with china and also approaching us 2 join cpec
 
What "pressure" could Trump possibly "mount" that would make Pakistan limit its nuclear weapons program? Does Pakistan even envision limits on its nuclear arms as opposed to building more ad infinitum, until the Himalayas crack and sink under their very weight?
 
Pakistan nuclear program is own by Pakistan for Pakistan security. US have got very limited options to do anything other then go out to fight a full blown war with Pakistan. Then what US gives moral right to ask us to limit our nuclear program while she possesses 1000's of bombs herself. With regard to sanctions or cutting our aid we been there before and we are still here. From Carter to Obama story continues. They may try to pressurize us but alienating like before is not an option for US any more. If US tries that we certainly can raise the temperature under there feet too and Uncle Sam with scold feet won't look good. World is big enough for both countries to live in peace and harmony.
 
US take casualties when it tries to occupy land, when it has to put boots on the ground. Both in Afghanistan or Iraq it took US hardly 15-20 odd days and 20-30 odd casualties to bring the adversary to it's knees from air. Pakistan will be no different. China will not fight US for Pakistan and nobody will use nuke as it will mean end of their existence. Tamely surrendering to US wishes will be the only option.
Both in Afghanistan or Iraq it took US hardly 15-20 odd days and 20-30 odd casualties to bring the adversary to it's knees from air. Pakistan will be no different. Good , if you really think so for what you or either america waiting for ?
Lolz somebody did try it coming from the distance of 3,000 Km and then had to go back that too 30-35 years back and this is 2016.
 
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