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The Trump administration is continuing to inflict damage on China's prized businesses in its final weeks, with actions that could make it harder for President-elect Joe Biden to rebuild relations once he takes office.

The latest move came Thursday when the US Department of Defense added China's top chipmaker SMIC, oil giant CNOOC and several other firms to a list of companies that the department claims are owned or controlled by the Chinese military. That means they're now subject to restrictions, including a ban on Americans investing in them.

Analysts had been expecting the current US administration to keep lashing out at China until the very end of its term with the aim of entrenching President Donald Trump's approach to Beijing and making it harder for Biden to reverse course.

"The rush by China hardliners to push out actions against China by January 20 has short-circuited an already disorganized policy process," said Michael Hirson, practice head of China and Northeast Asia at Eurasia Group. January 20 is Biden's inauguration date.

There are no clear criteria for a military-linked company, Hirson said, but the Trump administration appears to be interpreting it broadly to mean companies that directly or indirectly support China's military modernization.
"That is a particularly broad net for China's state-owned enterprises," he said.


Beijing on Friday protested against CNOOC, SMIC and other companies being added to the Defense Department's list, and called on the United States to stop abusing the concept of national security.

"China firmly rejects the United States' unwarranted oppression against Chinese companies," China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Hua Chunying told reporters.

SMIC said in a filing to the Hong Kong Stock Exchange that there "there is no major impact" on its operation after being added to the Defense Department's list. The company added that its semiconductors are for civilian and commercial use, and that it has no relationship with the Chinese military.

The US government has had SMIC in its cross hairs for months. Earlier this year, it warned companies against doing business with the Chinese company because of its perceived ties to the military.

Targeting SMIC strikes at the heart of Beijing's tech ambitions. China is playing catchup to the West when it comes to chipmaking, and has plowed billions of dollars into the industry hoping to build a homegrown company capable of manufacturing leading edge chips.

CNOOC did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
A SMIC employee shows off the latest home-made server chip at the China International Semiconductor Expo 2020. SMIC says its semiconductors are for civilian and commercial use, and that it has no relationship with the Chinese military.


A SMIC employee shows off the latest home-made server chip at the China International Semiconductor Expo 2020. SMIC says its semiconductors are for civilian and commercial use, and that it has no relationship with the Chinese military.
An executive order that Trump signed last month barring US firms from investing in companies on the Defense Department's list, meanwhile, has now grown to include 35 Chinese businesses.

Smartphone maker Huawei and Hikvision, one of the world's largest manufacturers and suppliers of video surveillance equipment, are on the list. Some of the other companies listed, including China Telecom (CHA), China Mobile (CHL) and now CNOOC (CEO), trade on the New York Stock Exchange.

US investors are banned from owning or trading any securities that originate or are exposed to those firms. Investors will have until November 2021 to divest from the companies.

And Trump still has more ammunition he could fire at Chinese companies.

Earlier this week, the US House of Representatives passed a bill that could kick several Chinese firms off Wall Street. The bill, which would prevent companies that refuse to open their books to US accounting regulators from trading on US stock exchanges, won unanimous backing in the Senate earlier this year. It only needs Trump's signature to become law.

Trump will, "with near certainty," sign off on the bill before his term comes to an end, according to Shirley Yu, visiting fellow at the London School of Economics and founder of a company that assesses strategy, business, and political risk for companies working in China.

Backed "with unanimous congressional support, this decision will be extremely hard to reverse by the next administration," she added.


The president could also revive the US-China trade war. China has not fulfilled its commitments to buy $200 billion worth of US products, which was part of the "phase one" trade deal signed earlier this year, according to Yu. Which means that "Trump can unilaterally raise tariffs on Chinese goods again ... [and] impose higher punitive tariffs," she said.

Washington's China hawks are also eyeing major Chinese tech brands, such as Alibaba (BABA), Tencent (TCEHY) and Baidu (BIDU), according to Hirson.

Trump has already tried to go after Tencent, signing an executive order in August to ban its WeChat app from operating in the United States. A US judge temporarily blocked the order in late September. And a US appeals court in October rejected the US government's request to immediately ban WeChat from app stores in the country.

The Chinese tech giants could still be added to a list which bars American companies from exporting goods to them without first obtaining a license to do so, according to Hirson.

"Some in the administration have been pushing to add one or more of these firms to the Commerce Department's entity list or take other executive actions towards these firms," he said.
Companies added to the entity list — which is separate from the Defense Department's list — are essentially cut off from US supplies and technologies.
Washington added Huawei to the list last year, citing national security risks. Huawei, which has long denied that any of its products pose national security risks, has since seen its global business crippled by the US restrictions. SMIC has not been added to the list, but warned investors last month that potential US export restrictions are a concern.
Thank you, Trump!
 
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This will ultimately kill a very large proportion of high end, civilian chip making industry in western world, specifically the American companies. Ironically those low IQ Trump supporters are still cheering on it. LOL
 
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Unbelievable naive fake news.
China high end technology and manufacture is prosper as never before.
China is China.
 
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Trump makes damages as much as possible.

This will stain the international relationship that will lead to world war 3 between China-Russia and USA+allies.

There were many bad saying about Trump since before he took the office, that is why so much bad media propaganda against Trump.

But in the end, what people think about Trump becomes true.


It will depend on Biden, whatever to continue Trump's legacy or not.

But it will trigger a civil war in USA.
 
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This will ultimately kill a very large proportion of high end, civilian chip making industry in western world, specifically the American companies. Ironically those low IQ Trump supporters are still cheering on it. LOL

We see the effects of that killing on Huawei, who is selling off parts of their company, bit by bit. :azn:
 
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LOL

You shall know Honor is a cheap low end section of Huawei where margin is limited. Did Huawei say they r going to sell their high end P series section? LOL...

You know why IBM sold their hardware section and concentrate on the high profit business solution?? I guess its too difficult for people like u to absorb.

I win, you lose. :enjoy:
 
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You shall know Honor is a cheap low end section of Huawei where margin is limited. Did Huawei say they r going to sell their high end P series section? LOL...

You know why IBM sold their hardware section and concentrate on the high profit business solution?? I guess its too difficult for people like u to absorb.

I win, you lose. :enjoy:
But it says they sold it because of tech restrictions, while you say things because you are told what to say, behave, speak and read from the cradle to the grave by the CCP overlords.

we all win, and you lose :yahoo:
 
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But it says they sold it because of tech restrictions, while you say things because you are told what to say, behave, speak and read from the cradle to the grave by the CCP overlords.

we all win, and you lose :yahoo:
Well you cannot say there is no impact on Huawei, but the resilience shows how strong this company is. If its done on a yindoo company, ooo wait there aren't any, I mean theoretically, they would have bended over before the sanction have even begun. The execution power of the CCP is already proven in the virus response, US and the yinpoodle can't even control jackshit. It shows you something rigy?
 
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Its simple.
Trump want to contest next elections and its important for him to make it difficult for biden to rule.
These actions are not against China but biden presidency.
Trp don't care if US is hurt as far as biden lose the next elections.
 
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We see the effects of that killing on Huawei, who is selling off parts of their company, bit by bit. :azn:

Huawei only struggled on mobile phone chips. Not others like 5G. China's current chip making capability can already ensure that.

For phone chips, they are already trying to catch up on mask aligners to 22/28nm in next 2 years for making 7nm chips. But before that, they have started chip and OS replacement on all government organisations and state own companies as such Intel and AMD lost 30% sales. Besides that they have already planned to have domestic chip makers to raise market shares from currently 30% to 70% in 3 years. Most of those chips are not mobile phone chips and only require mask aligners working on spec lower than 28nm or so.

Currently China consumes 60% of the global chip supplies and most of the chips originate from western companies. With above processes, ie. chip import replacement, you can imagine how many western companies, especially American companies, will get hit and bleed terribly. A good indicator of that kind of anxiety can even been seen on naming of Qualcomm's latest chip

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BTW after the trade war started, can any one remember how many new orders of Boeing passenger jets China's airlines have placed? None, although normally they should count Boeing's 30% sales. Has China's aviation authority allowed Boeing 737 Max to return to service? No.

So China's airlines would eventually sell their Boeing 737 Max to international market after FAA and EASA authorise the return of Boeing 737 Max and willing buyers appear. China alone owns the largest number of Boeing 737 Max in the world. If they sell with such volume, you can imagine prices of 737 Max will be significantly pushed down and it will make the resume of 737 max production extremely hard if not possible. Again Boeing will have to lay off more skilled workers and the skill loss will be permanent like what's happened in America's ship building industry. Bit by bit Boeing will lose their entire civilian aviation market share.

Obviously Boeing's loss on civilian aviation business is being used to cancel Huawei's loss on mobile phone business. All China's new orders will shift to Airbus and C919. There is no way for the US to take any meaningful counter measures like banning the sales of LEAP engines as China's CJ-1000 is already on the way.

This tech war is devastating to high-end American companies. Of course you could never understand that as you seem to be a very low-end labour in the market.
 
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Huawei only struggled on mobile phone chips. Not others like 5G. China's current chip making capability can already ensure that.

For phone chips, they are already trying to catch up on mask aligners to 22/28nm in next 2 years for making 7nm chips. But before that, they have started chip and OS replacement on all government organisations and state own companies as such Intel and AMD lost 30% sales. Besides that they have already planned to have domestic chip makers to raise market shares from currently 30% to 70% in 3 years. Most of those chips are not mobile phone chips and only require mask aligners working on spec lower than 28nm or so.

Currently China consumes 60% of the global chip supplies and most of the chips originate from western companies. With above processes, ie. chip import replacement, you can imagine how many western companies, especially American companies, will get hit and bleed terribly. A good indicator of that kind of anxiety can even been seen on naming of Qualcomm's latest chip

.

BTW after the trade war started, can any one remember how many new orders of Boeing passenger jets China's airlines have placed? None, although normally they should count Boeing's 30% sales. Has China's aviation authority allowed Boeing 737 Max to return to service? No.

So China's airlines would eventually sell their Boeing 737 Max to international market after FAA and EASA authorise the return of Boeing 737 Max and willing buyers appear. China alone owns the largest number of Boeing 737 Max in the world. If they sell with such volume, you can imagine prices of 737 Max will be significantly pushed down and it will make the resume of 737 max production extremely hard if not possible. Again Boeing will have to lay off more skilled workers and the skill loss will be permanent like what's happened in America's ship building industry. Bit by bit Boeing will lose their entire civilian aviation market share.

Obviously Boeing's loss on civilian aviation business is being used to cancel Huawei's loss on mobile phone business. All China's new orders will shift to Airbus and C919. There is no way for the US to take any meaningful counter measures like banning the sales of LEAP engines as China's CJ-1000 is already on the way.

This tech war is devastating to high-end American companies. Of course you could never understand that as you seem to be a very low-end labour in the market.

That's some creative thinking, LOL. The premise that China will flood an imaginary market willing to buy the max, take a huge loss, still be obligated on the full Boeing contract, and then go out and buy some new ones to replace it sounds very undereducated and expected of a wu mao. :agree:

Our chip manufacturers face a greater loss in stolen IP and technology versus what they sold into the Chinese market. We'll make up the market elsewhere among emerging economies. You worry about what is coming down the pipeline, next... the removal of Chinese companies from our stock exchange.

 
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Huawei only struggled on mobile phone chips. Not others like 5G. China's current chip making capability can already ensure that.

For phone chips, they are already trying to catch up on mask aligners to 22/28nm in next 2 years for making 7nm chips. But before that, they have started chip and OS replacement on all government organisations and state own companies as such Intel and AMD lost 30% sales. Besides that they have already planned to have domestic chip makers to raise market shares from currently 30% to 70% in 3 years. Most of those chips are not mobile phone chips and only require mask aligners working on spec lower than 28nm or so.

Currently China consumes 60% of the global chip supplies and most of the chips originate from western companies. With above processes, ie. chip import replacement, you can imagine how many western companies, especially American companies, will get hit and bleed terribly. A good indicator of that kind of anxiety can even been seen on naming of Qualcomm's latest chip

.

BTW after the trade war started, can any one remember how many new orders of Boeing passenger jets China's airlines have placed? None, although normally they should count Boeing's 30% sales. Has China's aviation authority allowed Boeing 737 Max to return to service? No.

So China's airlines would eventually sell their Boeing 737 Max to international market after FAA and EASA authorise the return of Boeing 737 Max and willing buyers appear. China alone owns the largest number of Boeing 737 Max in the world. If they sell with such volume, you can imagine prices of 737 Max will be significantly pushed down and it will make the resume of 737 max production extremely hard if not possible. Again Boeing will have to lay off more skilled workers and the skill loss will be permanent like what's happened in America's ship building industry. Bit by bit Boeing will lose their entire civilian aviation market share.

Obviously Boeing's loss on civilian aviation business is being used to cancel Huawei's loss on mobile phone business. All China's new orders will shift to Airbus and C919. There is no way for the US to take any meaningful counter measures like banning the sales of LEAP engines as China's CJ-1000 is already on the way.

This tech war is devastating to high-end American companies. Of course you could never understand that as you seem to be a very low-end labour in the market.
Pretty good analysis, people forget that the most advanced nodes are used for cellphones. 28nm is actually the most used node for everything else including 5G equipment. That's why Huawei is rushing the completion of the 28nm fab, fully made in China by Smee. I think they just recently topped it off. Will take a year to commission it to speed, and another to configure it to reach 7nm,etc.
 
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