True Crime - Case 3 - Hit and Run Murder

[jhungary]

I think she was raped/ in car too as her shoe was found 1 mile from accident, as it shows her struggle... plus time difference b/w impact and when Diana was found is too short so she was abducted I think just after 04 25.

She left the boyfriend house at around 4:00 to 4:10 (no exact time available) and by 4:25 there are people in the surf spot saw a girl riding past on a bike (Presumed to be Diana) and the three man jump in their VW Beetle and going the same direction where the girl is going, so the collision and kidnap time is approximately 4:40 from the location of the surf spot to the location of her bike wreck.

She had probably bike on for another 2 mile before getting hit so I doubt she was hit just after 0425, unless the people who do that move the crime scene

plus what caused internal injuries !!! rape can't unless some metal or hard thing is inserted her vagina?
anyway, I think rape is an instrument of distraction.. She was very weak when women 1 found her so I think Diana had been given some poison (if no autopsy has been done) or some other, hard to detect poison.
I also suspect may be the women 1 and 3 'helpers' are involved as ambulance was very late (as it was contacted 17:47 late). The women then might bring towel with chmicals or something to clean the evidence meanwhile.
Those 3 'helpers' might be tracking Diana before. One of them manged to take the shirt of surfer as its normal to go surfing w/o T shirt.

Her COD officially is intracranial bleeding (Bleeding inside her head) but her autopsy report listed the following injury, as the ME summary

The ME summary report does not specify any poison being use or chemical being use. The reason for the Ambulance being late is officially credited to the remoteness of the spot.

The woman who found Diana and the 4 person (the driver and his three female companion) was clear and have no involvement of the crime, according to the Police.

so W1 whne found Diana at 16:45 and stopped 3 'helpers' one of them already had raped her in car. They heard that a woman is coming. They tried to eascape but W1 thought that they are passing by people so she stopped them However, as 911 was contacted late so W1 was also involved.
However, internal bleeing is may be due to some poison/medicine which is nearly untraceable.
it seems very illogical conclusion if incident is TRUE

the time 1645 is roughly the time she hear the scream. As much as other police report, it may not be the exact timing when the woman hear Diana scream.

The woman testify that she hear the scream sometime after 4:45 (the last time she look at the clock) and she called police at 5:47

I also think due to poison, Diana was not driving well. So accident happened. but out of fear Beetle driven (Irving) didn't contact out of fear.
Steven as mature he is, took Fred shirt but couldn't utilize it properly though and tried to save his brother and dumping Diana body one mile away with Fred shirt.
As pool of blood was found on accident area and COD is internal injuries so she mush have been poisoned.
As similar Iron tire was found near Fred house, so there is another beetle nearby or its not much of evidence.
From that point some other people or single '3 helpers' took her & raped her and droving away or coming back (to remove evidence or plant false one) when W1 saw passing by people. She went away, so either they removed evidence meanwhile as they contacted ambulance late or women 1 is involved too.

I don't understand what you said here..........Can you be more specific on the question?

Diana was riding a bicycle, not driving, and Fred shirt is found next to Diana, not a mile away .

I have some problem with this time line


Can you please check if it is correct and there is no typing error?

Estimated time when she was hit by car is 4:40
Just after 5 minutes the woman heard a female voice. Meaning in 5 minutes, she was dragged into the car, driven 5 miles, dragged out to the spot where was found and raped?

Then there is this call at 5:47 to 911 regarding the girl found that have been raped? It took the woman who heard the voice over an hour to find her?

Am i understanding this correctly?

That is what the woman report, the police report (where I get the information from) stated that the woman look at the clock at 4:45 shortly after, she hear the scream and went out and follow it, she probably found Diana a while before she call the ambulance on 5:47 because the location of where Diana is very remote and she had to walk back to her home and come back and see the car, wave it down and call the police using the driver mobile phone.

If I have to guess, she may have heard Diana scream a bit later or she may have heard Diana scream when she is still in the perpetrator car

Semen on panty could be from boyfriend as she did go to visit him. That could have been consensual sex, and perhaps her bf also has a biting fetish. He was not tested for bite mark as per report. Semen on the sheet could be the result of just a dirty sheet that was used For sex by someone else totally unrelated to the crime.

There is a strong possibility that Diana was not raped at all, and this was just a hit and run, minus the run because the suspects tried to hide her body.

Diana was most likely raped , ME report suggest injury and bruising inside and outside Diana vagina and anus. She was also beaten. All the sign point to unconsented sex

@jhungary What about the tire tracks at the scene of accident.

And what is the possibility of more than one person violating her? DNA could be from an unknown person.

By the way, do any of the suspects has any priors?

Tire track was an acceleration mark (Which is light to dense shadowing, indicating an acceleration, it would be gradually lighten if the car is braking.)

There are only 1 set of DNA recovered form the sheet under Diana at the time. However, ME cannot rule out gang rape, judging from the injury she suffer.

Fred have prior rape and drug charge, the bothers have prior drug charge.

One thing I don't understand is how Diana father came to know about the crash site and kidnapping.

well crime scene 1 was very close to their home, about half a mile to 1 mile, the sister went outside after the collision and hear the commotion, and the person who first notice the collision scene actually went to get help to the area where the family live.

 

[Goenitz]

I don't understand what you said here..........Can you be more specific on the question?

yeah man... I don't write coherently even I talk in bits. Anyway, I thought Fred, Steven and Irving all 3 had different cars. Anyway, If they had same car (VW) then at least 3 were involved in hit case.
Plus fred shirt was found near woods, so at least Fred was near to Diana last location. I thought, Steven stole Fred shirt, and put it on Diana's body one mile away from impact point and some one took diana and shirt, then raped her and plant that shirt as distraction.

However, I think there can be 4th person involved or 2nd set of people. I think, helpers are culprit as they might have seen all 3 suspects dumping diana 1 mile away. Then they took her, raped her and might be coming back for something when W1 saw them.
Police could track their cell location with time where they have been during incident and whether they took a U turn or coming straight to wood land direction.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Sheesh what a complete mess of a case. 3 people chasing after her...geez. Don't even know where to start.

 

[I.R.A]

Diana was most likely raped , ME report suggest injury and bruising inside and outside Diana vagina and anus. She was also beaten. All the sign point to unconsented sex

I think the deceased is a victim of a violent gang rape for sure. Only the hit and run part of the crime doesn't make any sense for three suspects involved.

If raping her was the motive why there was a need to maul her bicycle down and severely injure the girl .......... if these three guys wanted they could have simply dragged her into the car and raped her.

Can it be that the girl was raped prior to the accident and then accident was staged to make sure she doesn't report the rape to authorities? Because you will have to be totally out of your senses raping a severely bleeding girl, biting her and conducting unnatural intercourse from rear.

Plus the woman witness who responded to girl's scream when reached the spot the ordeal was over, this doesn't make sense the deceased would have screamed before too why the screams heard after the crime was already committed and girl was left to die?

At least one of the three guys should (be made to) confess to rape. Can we have information on what questions were asked from all the three?

P.S: Presence of any wild life in that area where girl was found? Is it confirmed that bite marks are human? Though this won't change anything but still would like to know. Thanks

 

[Arsalan]

the time 1645 is roughly the time she hear the scream. As much as other police report, it may not be the exact timing when the woman hear Diana scream.

The woman testify that she hear the scream sometime after 4:45 (the last time she look at the clock) and she called police at 5:47







That is what the woman report, the police report (where I get the information from) stated that the woman look at the clock at 4:45 shortly after, she hear the scream and went out and follow it, she probably found Diana a while before she call the ambulance on 5:47 because the location of where Diana is very remote and she had to walk back to her home and come back and see the car, wave it down and call the police using the driver mobile phone.

If I have to guess, she may have heard Diana scream a bit later or she may have heard Diana scream when she is still in the perpetrator car

Still the report suggest that she was HIT at around 4.40 and the scream was heard at AROUND 4.45. That leaves us with 5 min which she was hit, run over, dragged into the car, driven 5 miles, dragged out into the forest and then raped (considering the woman found her after she had been raped). Now lets add 10-15 min as the time line is approximate, still that means 15-20 min for all this to happen. STILL A SHORT TIME.

Can you please confirm whether there were any evidence if a car was parked near the place she was raped? If she was raped by those three boys they must have hidden the car somewhere in forest as well (since they could not afford to leave a slightly damaged car on the road).

Please confirm!

 

[jhungary]

yeah man... I don't write coherently even I talk in bits. Anyway, I thought Fred, Steven and Irving all 3 had different cars. Anyway, If they had same car (VW) then at least 3 were involved in hit case.
Plus fred shirt was found near woods, so at least Fred was near to Diana last location. I thought, Steven stole Fred shirt, and put it on Diana's body one mile away from impact point and some one took diana and shirt, then raped her and plant that shirt as distraction.

However, I think there can be 4th person involved or 2nd set of people. I think, helpers are culprit as they might have seen all 3 suspects dumping diana 1 mile away. Then they took her, raped her and might be coming back for something when W1 saw them.
Police could track their cell location with time where they have been during incident and whether they took a U turn or coming straight to wood land direction.

Was not trying to offend you, but I really do not understand what you are trying to point out...=.=

And while I cannot say what the police did or did not do, but the person who found Diana and the people in the car that call the police was cleared by the Police, they were not involved in this crime.

There may be a 4th person involve or may not be, but the DNA found on the sheet does not match anybody, as well as the bite mark on Diana Breast does not match anybody.

Sheesh what a complete mess of a case. 3 people chasing after her...geez. Don't even know where to start.

lol.....not every case is so easy and straight forward

I think the deceased is a victim of a violent gang rape for sure. Only the hit and run part of the crime doesn't make any sense for three suspects involved.

If raping her was the motive why there was a need to maul her bicycle down and severely injure the girl .......... if these three guys wanted they could have simply dragged her into the car and raped her.

Can it be that the girl was raped prior to the accident and then accident was staged to make sure she doesn't report the rape to authorities? Because you will have to be totally out of your senses raping a severely bleeding girl, biting her and conducting unnatural intercourse from rear.

Plus the woman witness who responded to girl's scream when reached the spot the ordeal was over, this doesn't make sense the deceased would have screamed before too why the screams heard after the crime was already committed and girl was left to die?

That is a very good observation, I cannot say whether or not this is possible, but there are 2 things you may want to consider.

1.) Diana was knock down not far from her home (a block away, half a mile to a mile away) and was discovered somewhere 5 miles away from her home, it would not make sense if Diana was dragged and raped near the woman who discover her 5 miles away from her home, and only for the person responsible for it to go back to near where she live and stage a hit and run scene.

It would make more sense if Diana was going home from her boyfriend place and on the way being intercepted and ran over, then drag to somewhere else for someone to discover.

2.) We have no idea how long ago or whether or not Diana was in the field where she was discovered when the woman first hear her scream.

At least one of the three guys should (be made to) confess to rape. Can we have information on what questions were asked from all the three?

At this stage (at the beginning of the investigation) there are not enough to arrest anyone, but Fred did made a confession of him being in the crime scenes, he denied running over and raping the woman tho, but he did indicate (in that alleged confession) the brother involvement in the run over and rape. But then even if the confession did exist (no audio or video record exist) it would still be a he said they said situation, as there are no physical evidence linking the crime scene to the brothers.

Since there are no arrest (apart from Fred confession) to the brother, there are no question was ever asked at this stage, on the brothers However the confession suggested by Fred's brother - AGAIN, THE FOLLOWING IS A HEARSAY.

"Fred alleged the brother started to follow Diana from the surf spot and try to hit on Diana, Diana ignore the brother advance and that infuriate the brothers, the brother make a U-Turn, accelerate and hit Diana and then drag Diana in the car, putting her in the trunk and bring her to the fishing spot and the brother take turn raping Diana, and Fred got high by just watching the brother rape Diana and hence was not involved, and eventually Fred alleged that he take out a tire iron form the VW Beetle and hit Diana in the head to put her out of her misery."

Since this story was not recorded nor was actually directly made to the Law Enforcement, the detective went and interview Fred and he change his story by then. Denouncing some detail while admitted he know the brother did it and he have no involvement.

When the detective confront the brother on this, the brother refuse to admit they know Fred.

P.S: Presence of any wild life in that area where girl was found? Is it confirmed that bite marks are human? Though this won't change anything but still would like to know. Thanks

No, and the bite mark are human.

Still the report suggest that she was HIT at around 4.40 and the scream was heard at AROUND 4.45. That leaves us with 5 min which she was hit, run over, dragged into the car, driven 5 miles, dragged out into the forest and then raped (considering the woman found her after she had been raped). Now lets add 10-15 min as the time line is approximate, still that means 15-20 min for all this to happen. STILL A SHORT TIME.

Can you please confirm whether there were any evidence if a car was parked near the place she was raped? If she was raped by those three boys they must have hidden the car somewhere in forest as well (since they could not afford to leave a slightly damaged car on the road).

Please confirm!

The report suggest a time where a normal person can ride from the surf spot to where Diana was hit in 20 minutes.

But it could have been shorter if Diana ride her bike fast, again this is just a suggestive time line, and also, we have no way to know the exact time the woman found Diana to start. All she gave to the detective is she last look at the clock at 4:45 and she called the police at 5:47. That is the only consistence time.

There were no evidence of a car were ever in the area of the location where Diana was found and allegedly raped. It was next to a road leading to a fishing spot.

 

[Arsalan]

Was not trying to offend you, but I really do not understand what you are trying to point out...=.=

And while I cannot say what the police did or did not do, but the person who found Diana and the people in the car that call the police was cleared by the Police, they were not involved in this crime.

There may be a 4th person involve or may not be, but the DNA found on the sheet does not match anybody, as well as the bite mark on Diana Breast does not match anybody.



lol.....not every case is so easy and straight forward



That is a very good observation, I cannot say whether or not this is possible, but there are 2 things you may want to consider.

1.) Diana was knock down not far from her home (a block away, half a mile to a mile away) and was discovered somewhere 5 miles away from her home, it would not make sense if Diana was dragged and raped near the woman who discover her 5 miles away from her home, and only for the person responsible for it to go back to near where she live and stage a hit and run scene.

It would make more sense if Diana was going home from her boyfriend place and on the way being intercepted and ran over, then drag to somewhere else for someone to discover.

2.) We have no idea how long ago or whether or not Diana was in the field where she was discovered when the woman first hear her scream.



At this stage (at the beginning of the investigation) there are not enough to arrest anyone, but Fred did made a confession of him being in the crime scenes, he denied running over and raping the woman tho, but he did indicate (in that alleged confession) the brother involvement in the run over and rape. But then even if the confession did exist (no audio or video record exist) it would still be a he said they said situation, as there are no physical evidence linking the crime scene to the brothers.

Since there are no arrest (apart from Fred confession) to the brother, there are no question was ever asked at this stage, on the brothers However the confession suggested by Fred's brother - AGAIN, THE FOLLOWING IS A HEARSAY.

"Fred alleged the brother started to follow Diana from the surf spot and try to hit on Diana, Diana ignore the brother advance and that infuriate the brothers, the brother make a U-Turn, accelerate and hit Diana and then drag Diana in the car, putting her in the trunk and bring her to the fishing spot and the brother take turn raping Diana, and Fred got high by just watching the brother rape Diana and hence was not involved, and eventually Fred alleged that he take out a tire iron form the VW Beetle and hit Diana in the head to put her out of her misery."

Since this story was not recorded nor was actually directly made to the Law Enforcement, the detective went and interview Fred and he change his story by then. Denouncing some detail while admitted he know the brother did it and he have no involvement.

When the detective confront the brother on this, the brother refuse to admit they know Fred.




No, and the bite mark are human.



The report suggest a time where a normal person can ride from the surf spot to where Diana was hit in 20 minutes.

But it could have been shorter if Diana ride her bike fast, again this is just a suggestive time line, and also, we have no way to know the exact time the woman found Diana to start. All she gave to the detective is she last look at the clock at 4:45 and she called the police at 5:47. That is the only consistence time.

There were no evidence of a car were ever in the area of the location where Diana was found and allegedly raped. It was next to a road leading to a fishing spot.

Hmmm,

OK what about any previous history of the three suspects? Have they ever been accused or charged of sexual violence or indecency? Any previous charge sheet?

 

[Amaa'n]

Hmmm,

OK what about any previous history of the three suspects? Have they ever been accused or charged of sexual violence or indecency? Any previous charge sheet?

Fred has a rape & drug use priors ---
others in the use have drug priors ----

 

[I.R.A]

@jhungary

What I can establish from all the information discussed is

• Victim was extraordinarily beautiful, as you suggested that she would stand out in a crowd, her beauty got her raped and worst killed in the end.
• That physical attraction is what made the brothers follow her
• Violent Rape resulted because brothers felt insulted or too much high on their sexual appetite to resist her appearance ......... as Fred said in one of his statements that they started hitting on her and Diana ignored them ....... it can very well be a revenge ..........
• Fred hinted that he had hit the girl on her head to rid her of her misery ......... in that case the brothers are the rapists and Fred is our killer. The cycle accident may not have hurt Diana very bad ...... she may very well be conscious during her rape and not bleeding, else brothers' clothes would have blood stains on them.

Now coming to Fred's role in all this incident well it may very well be possible that

• He is the rapist and the killer ......... brothers may have initially eve teased the girl but latter their role may have been reduced to guard the spot while Fred was busy raping the girl. The girl repeatedly insulted Fred throughout her ordeal which made him furious and kill her at the end. He is now trying confusing the case by giving and changing his statements. Keep in mind he is tall and it was his shirt found on the scene

• If that is not the case then it doesn't make sense for him to ride the car from start ...... why go after a girl to just watch her getting raped at the end ........ and be merciful to kill her altogether?

• Or by giving these statements he may have tried to gauge ........ what and how much the police and detectives know.

I want him arrested on suspicion and grilled properly.

 

[Amaa'n]

the problem is DNA, DNA sample taken off the victim & sheet does not match either of the guys ---- it does not place them there ----

@jhungary any polygraph done?

was the victim able to give any statement, names, anything that would help to identify the attackers?

whats the statement from boyfriend? Diana left the BF on a happy note?

one surprising thing for me is that there was harsh acceleration of the vehicle & then it struck the cyclist & no witnesses?

 

[Arsalan]

Fred has a rape & drug use priors ---
others in the use have drug priors ----

Then i do not think there should be any doubts!!

@jhungary frankly speaking, I think we are just paying too much attention to details and that Is making us ignore what is out there in plain sight. It is a clear cut case of rape as far as I can see. The three suspects have previous history one of them have a history of sexual offense. They were out together, saw a girl in what seems to be a revealing dress riding a bike on a not so busy road. The rushed after her and followed her in their car. Made indecent remarks and gestures. Not the girl might have responded in an aggressive way or maybe she just IGNORED (that will be a big offense to the three kids out for some fun and having previous record of law breaking), The turned the car, accelerated toward her and hit her bike to teach her a lesson (high on drugs most probably or otherwise high on the sense of them being cool gangsters with all their previous record). The rape MUST have come as an after though. With the girl helpless and immobilized, the beast nature took over, Fred with a rape prior took charge, dragged her to the car where the three men drove off to the secluded location, dragged her out and raped her! The other two brother may well have taken part in the rape as (what little I can judge) Fred must have motivated them to try it out (he had past experience). Then out of fear or just because of their arrogant criminal nature, the hit the girl and left her to die!

There are no other possibilities really. That is how it happened. Almost certain about it.

From legal point of view, the lack of sign of a car hidden in the same area where she was raped, the time line of call made to 911 are circumstantial and do not prove the suspects innocent. However the lack of DNA match do help them but the DNA samples may well have been damaged in the 2+ hour rescue mission.

In short, while there is little evidence to PROVE them guilty, what we can hope for is divine intervention in shape of confession. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE GOT! They have confessed!! My sixth sense tells me these are guilty, common sense tells us that, they have confessed to it. Enough for me to put them in jail.

 

[jhungary]

Hmmm,

OK what about any previous history of the three suspects? Have they ever been accused or charged of sexual violence or indecency? Any previous charge sheet?

Yes, as @balixd said, Fred have a few rap on sexual assault and drug prior, where the other have drug prior (Steven record is sealed as he is a minor by the way, I think I forgot to tell people here)

And Fred testify that they were all high on heroin on that afternoon.

@jhungary

What I can establish from all the information discussed is

• Victim was extraordinarily beautiful, as you suggested that she would stand out in a crowd, her beauty got her raped and worst killed in the end.
• That physical attraction is what made the brothers follow her
• Violent Rape resulted because brothers felt insulted or too much high on their sexual appetite to resist her appearance ......... as Fred said in one of his statements that they started hitting on her and Diana ignored them ....... it can very well be a revenge ..........
• Fred hinted that he had hit the girl on her head to rid her of her misery ......... in that case the brothers are the rapists and Fred is our killer. The cycle accident may not have hurt Diana very bad ...... she may very well be conscious during her rape and not bleeding, else brothers' clothes would have blood stains on them.

I will say whoever the perpetrator was, he (because rape was involved so must be a he) is drawn to her by her looks, Diana is young, she is athletic, she is fit, it would be enough to set off the alarm for some rapist.

However, if rape is done by any of those, then there are 2 major hurdle for the conviction.

1.) All 3 DNA was not present on the girl nor any port of her and her belonging. It's quite hard to proof rape without DNA. Granted, all 3 might have been wearing condom to rape Diana, but then there aren't any evidence physically to link either of the 3 suspect in any of the scene (Beside the damage mark and the T-shirt) I would have expect the T-shirt to have at least Fred's Sweat on it when he is wearing that and kill or rape the girl, but there are none. Which mean all evidence pointing to the 3 are circumstantial, and then there are the next problem.

2.) Not only did the 3 person's DNA cannot be found, but they had found a 4th person's DNA (an unknown male profile) on the sheet Diana was lying on when she was rape and when she was discovered. It's hard to actually charge the 3 without DNA evidence, the existence of an unknown profile would mean there are another party involved. Even tho it does not excuse the 3 suspects, but it is a very strong reasonable doubt on the three.

I can accept either one of these problem alone, (so either there aren't any DNA at all (meaning all were committing the crime wearing condom) or there are trace of either 1 or all 3 DNA + an unknown DNA profile on Diana. Because that would mean all weren't wearing condom. Otherwise the current evidence would have suggest if the 3 suspects did it, they wear condom while there exist a 4th suspect, who choose not to wear one. Which does not make sense, because wearing condom suggest the crime is planned and not wearing one suggest the crime is opportunistic and you can't be both. So, there are very big gap of reasonable doubt exist if the evidence is as it was.

Also, you need to know that most confession by a person would normally minimize that person involvement in the crime (Assuming you don't already know that). Having been confessed does not mean everything, and this confession is not backed up and is literally a hearsay, you can call Fred's Brother on the stand but I don't think it will do any good.

And finally, not finding blood evidence on the brother to peg them does not mean they don't exist, but yes, blood evidence on Fred is quite convincing on the other hand. There are DNA on Diana panty, just they are to degraded to tell whom it belong to.

Now coming to Fred's role in all this incident well it may very well be possible that

• He is the rapist and the killer ......... brothers may have initially eve teased the girl but latter their role may have been reduced to guard the spot while Fred was busy raping the girl. The girl repeatedly insulted Fred throughout her ordeal which made him furious and kill her at the end. He is now trying confusing the case by giving and changing his statements. Keep in mind he is tall and it was his shirt found on the scene

• If that is not the case then it doesn't make sense for him to ride the car from start ...... why go after a girl to just watch her getting raped at the end ........ and be merciful to kill her altogether?

• Or by giving these statements he may have tried to gauge ........ what and how much the police and detectives know.

I want him arrested on suspicion and grilled properly.

Very good analysis, but let me chime in.

First of all, what Fred said to his brother is not admissible to the court, you will need to have more than what the brother said to have him arrest, so what would you do next?

Bear in mind currently as it stand, there are no connection between Fred and the crime scene, his DNA was not on both crime scenes and the bite-mark does not match Fred's bite mark, which mean even tho as you said, it's quite strange if he has no involvement, why would he tag along for the ride and hit the girl in the head with it? But since there are no DNA evidence tying him to the scenes, you cannot proof he is there or did anything to Diana.

For now, there are only 2 things you can go on if you want to pursuit Fred. 1 Follow up on Fred's Brother story, you cant use that to arrest him does not mean you cant investigate the legitimacy of the story. And second thing you can do is try to put Fred in the crime scene.

But how did you do that? I cannot tell you, because you need to tell me what you want to do [/quote][/QUOTE]

 

[I.R.A]

@jhungary Thank you for your input and feedback, I am taking leave now .......... will resume on Monday (my Timing) ........... meanwhile I will also look at another angle ........ may be these three guys were hired to kill the girl and rape came as a perk. Goodnight. see you on Monday.

 

[jhungary]

the problem is DNA, DNA sample taken off the victim & sheet does not match either of the guys ---- it does not place them there ----

@jhungary any polygraph done?

was the victim able to give any statement, names, anything that would help to identify the attackers?

whats the statement from boyfriend? Diana left the BF on a happy note?

one surprising thing for me is that there was harsh acceleration of the vehicle & then it struck the cyclist & no witnesses?

No polygraph, because there are no physical ties to any of the suspects, so you can't make the suspects do anything of yet.

The victim is too weak and too far gone to name the attacker(s) she did not say much beside ask for help.

Statement from the BF is that Diana said she left her home at around 3, bike all the way to his place, and ask him to attack a dinner with her the next day, and she left around 1600 (4 pm) and he ask her if she need a ride back to her place, she refused the lift and she rode off. The BF last thought on Diana is and I quote

"I watched her peddle away and I was thinking to myself that she was such a beautiful girl. The road was so messed up, and she was wearing tight shorts that left little to the imagination, and it could be very easy to wipe out going down the road. I thought to myself, ‘Don’t scar up those beautiful legs.’”

Not sure if there are anyone who know, but as the area where she was hit was quit secluded, the nearest residential area is where her family live about half a mile to a mile away.

Then i do not think there should be any doubts!!

@jhungary frankly speaking, I think we are just paying too much attention to details and that Is making us ignore what is out there in plain sight. It is a clear cut case of rape as far as I can see. The three suspects have previous history one of them have a history of sexual offense. They were out together, saw a girl in what seems to be a revealing dress riding a bike on a not so busy road. The rushed after her and followed her in their car. Made indecent remarks and gestures. Not the girl might have responded in an aggressive way or maybe she just IGNORED (that will be a big offense to the three kids out for some fun and having previous record of law breaking), The turned the car, accelerated toward her and hit her bike to teach her a lesson (high on drugs most probably or otherwise high on the sense of them being cool gangsters with all their previous record). The rape MUST have come as an after though. With the girl helpless and immobilized, the beast nature took over, Fred with a rape prior took charge, dragged her to the car where the three men drove off to the secluded location, dragged her out and raped her! The other two brother may well have taken part in the rape as (what little I can judge) Fred must have motivated them to try it out (he had past experience). Then out of fear or just because of their arrogant criminal nature, the hit the girl and left her to die!

There are no other possibilities really. That is how it happened. Almost certain about it.

From legal point of view, the lack of sign of a car hidden in the same area where she was raped, the time line of call made to 911 are circumstantial and do not prove the suspects innocent. However the lack of DNA match do help them but the DNA samples may well have been damaged in the 2+ hour rescue mission.

In short, while there is little evidence to PROVE them guilty, what we can hope for is divine intervention in shape of confession. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE GOT! They have confessed!! My sixth sense tells me these are guilty, common sense tells us that, they have confessed to it. Enough for me to put them in jail.

So, you are okay with the current situation on the case? And nothing more you need to be done?

@jhungary Thank you for your input and feedback, I am taking leave now .......... will resume on Monday (my Timing) ........... meanwhile I will also look at another angle ........ may be these three guys were hired to kill the girl and rape came as a perk. Goodnight. see you on Monday.

No worry, take care

As per my observation she was first victim of hit and run case and after that when she is bleeding and searching for help she was raped by another person which mean single victim of two crimes first hit and run second rape and murdered.

Okay, if this is the case, then why she ended up 5 miles from home? When she was hit on her bike just a mile or maybe half a mile from home? Also do you think the 3 suspect hit her and she was raped by the 4th guy?

Not saying if your analysis is right or wrong, but just a stimulating question.

 

[Amaa'n]

No polygraph, because there are no physical ties to any of the suspects, so you can't make the suspects do anything of yet.

The victim is too weak and too far gone to name the attacker(s) she did not say much beside ask for help.

Statement from the BF is that Diana said she left her home at around 3, bike all the way to his place, and ask him to attack a dinner with her the next day, and she left around 1600 (4 pm) and he ask her if she need a ride back to her place, she refused the lift and she rode off. The BF last thought on Diana is and I quote

"I watched her peddle away and I was thinking to myself that she was such a beautiful girl. The road was so messed up, and she was wearing tight shorts that left little to the imagination, and it could be very easy to wipe out going down the road. I thought to myself, ‘Don’t scar up those beautiful legs.’”

Not sure if there are anyone who know, but as the area where she was hit was quit secluded, the nearest residential area is where her family live about half a mile to a mile away.

So, you are okay with the current situation on the case? And nothing more you need to be done?
No worry, take care
Okay, if this is the case, then why she ended up 5 miles from home? When she was hit on her bike just a mile or maybe half a mile from home? Also do you think the 3 suspect hit her and she was raped by the 4th guy?
Not saying if your analysis is right or wrong, but just a stimulating question.

what car does the Boyfriend have?
can we place him on the Scene where girl was raped?
have we been able to establish the origin of the sheet??

I mean since the start i don't like the idea of this sheet?, if you are to rape a girl that you have just struck why the sheet then?

I need more details like country of crime and probably state name. Well this is not conclusion but it is possible that first she was hit by a car and culprits ran away and disoriented and shocked girl took a wrong path to search help but she met another criminal who took advantage and raped her to death.

we can't have that otherwise some would look it up on google