Transportation: China #1

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Shipbuilding:
According to Chosun Ilbo, South Korea's shipbuilding industry is suffering from insufficient orders due to the serious financial crisis, and China will replace South Korea as the world's largest shipbuilding country.

China's shipbuilding has overtaken South Korea's in terms of order volume already received and new orders. According to statistical results released by Clarkson, the research institute that analyze the global shipbuilding and maritime transport sector, as of early this month, China's shipbuilding orders reached 54.96 million Compensated Gross Ton (CGT), 34.7% of the world market share, while the South Korean shipbuilding industry holds orders of 53.63 million CGT and only 33.8% of the world's market share. China's market share is 0.9 percentage points higher than South Korea's.

Car building:
Last year, China surpassed the United States as the world's largest automaker.

High speed rail building:
And in recent years, with little outside notice, China made another great leap forward in transportation: It now leads the world in high-speed rail.

Jets building:
The country is aggressively making jets to compete with Boeing and Airbus.

China's first home-made jet engine will make a debut in 2016, a significant step of the large-jet program, an official said Wednesday.

"China is expected to complete the research of its first jumbo jet engine in 2016 and begin to apply for aviation certificate from the state aviation authority," said Zhang Jian, general manager of the Shanghai-based AVIC Commercial Aircraft Engine Co. Ltd.

"We hope the home-made engine will fly together with the home-made large aircraft," he said.

The engine company was established in Shanghai in January. The company will focus on the research and development of home-made jet engines.

 

[below_freezing]

great! our country needs high speed rail, heavy shipping and large aircraft. to not make full efforts to get these is almost a crime.

 

[592257001]

let's cross our fingers that Koreans won't claim the ship building industry as theirs and call it "it's Koreans思密达!"

 

[ao333]

A source would be greatly appreciated.

 

[encounter]

great! our country needs high speed rail, heavy shipping and large aircraft. to not make full efforts to get these is almost a crime.

China to put up its own GPS by 2012
Saibal Dasgupta, TNN, May 25, 2010, 12.47am IST

BEIJING: Challenging US monopoly on global positioning systems (GPS), China is set to establish its own satellite navigation system by 2012, covering the Asia-Pacific region. China will become the third country, after US and Russia (it's system is under restoration), to have its own 'sat nav', a Chinese scientist has announced.

Sun Jiadong, chief designer of the Beidou Navigation System, indicated China was ready to spend several billion dollars to put up a network of 30 new satellites in the sky.

The local government was looking for markets to sell navigational services in order to finance the project, he said.

 

[SurvivoR]

Woohoo... Go China! I feel so glad and proud of our Chinese brothers

 

[prototype]

i thought china had already placed its gps

 

[ao333]

i thought china had already placed its gps

Only the US and EU ones are called GPS (different abbr). The Russian one is GLONASS and the Chinese one is Compass.

These 4 countries (excluding) are the only ones with fully featured regional GNSSes, of which only the US has a globally reaching one. The dates of the global operational dates are as follows:

US: 1994
RF: 2012
PRC: 2020

 

[Jazzbot]

go china go.

 

[prototype]

Only the US and the EU put up GPS (different abbr). The Russians and Chinese have their own GNSS systems. I think the Russian one was called GLONASS and the Chinese one was Compass.

yes russian one is glonass undergoing refurbishment and i think india is also a partner in that project

anyway it is about chinese transportation

i read in this thread that chinese r manufacturing jets
can anyone provide me more detailes about this

 

[ao333]

yes russian one is glonass undergoing refurbishment and i think india is also a partner in that project

anyway it is about chinese transportation

i read in this thread that chinese r manufacturing jets
can anyone provide me more detailes about this

Yeah, India is a participant, but it stated security issues. India's aiming for a regional system by 2012. The dates I listed on my previous post are for global systems.

As for the jets...

Civilian: Comac C919 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Military: The Chinese have this 200 ton military transport program called Y-20 or something.

In order of global sales:

Boeing (US), Airbus (France), Embraer (Brazil), Bombardier (Canada), Tupolev (Russia)

What limits most countries from successfully establishing an aero industry is not technology, but industrial capacity. An aero industry capable of indigenously producing large civilian aircraft at demanded rates is a symbol of immense industrial capacity. A country with an urban population of roughly above 75% is what's called an industralized nation, not to be confused with "developed nation" as that is defined by GDP per capita, which fluctuates over time. Though, China is an exception. In spite of only having 45% of its population in cities, its overall industral capacity can only be rivaled by the United States.

An exception to the above rule is Germany and Japan, whose aero industry's fate was sealed by the permanent 5 of the UNSC for security reasons.

What's technologically challenging is China's development of aero engines, which only the US, Russia, France, and Britain can build indigenously. It's always the permanent members, isn't it... -_-

 

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China is pulling ahead in worldwide race for high-speed rail transportation

The Qingdao factory of China's CSR Sifang is a major producer of high-speed trains in China. (Keith B. Richburg - The Washington Post)

Zhao Xiaogang, the board chairman of CSR's parent company in Beijing, said he was heartened to hear Obama express an interest in China's high-speed train technology during his visit here in November.

"I'm glad to see the Obama administration show such interest in high-speed projects," Zhao said. "CSR would like to show strong interest in these high-speed rail projects in the United States."

From highway to rail

Until the middle of this decade, China had mostly invested in expanding its highway network to accommodate the growing demand for automobiles. Rail was largely consigned to freight, mostly to haul minerals from the West to the manufacturing centers in the East. From 1997 to 2002, highway construction spending was seven times the amount invested in rail.

Starting in 2004, the amount spent on rail was steadily increased, and in October 2008 the government approved more than $100 billion as part of an economic stimulus package designed to stave off the impact of the global recession and create jobs.

By contrast, the Obama administration's $787 billion stimulus package included just $8 billion for investment in high-speed rail -- barely enough, experts said, to be considered "seed money" for targeted rail projects, including an Orlando-to-Tampa line in Florida and one in California.

This year, China will have invested another $120 billion in high-speed rail development while continuing to expand its highways. China is also spending large amounts on urban subway systems that will be linked up with high-speed trains in cities. China currently has about 60 subway projects underway in more than 20 cities.

Shanghai already has the fastest "maglev" train, shorthand for the German-built "magnetic levitation" technology that propels the wheel-less train using a series of powerful magnets on a track. The maglev makes the 18-mile trip to Shanghai's Pudong airport in under eight minutes, reaching top speeds of just over 187 mph.

Some foreign economists question how long the government can keep pumping money into building rail networks, subways and highways -- and there have been hints from China's government officials that the stimulus spending could be winding down soon.

Critics also question the cost to the public for tickets. On the new high-speed train from Guangzhou to Wuhan, ticket prices range from $71 to $129, about three times the price of the cheapest seat on the conventional train.

Last month, a group of four Beijing-based lawyers wrote a public letter to the government complaining that the railroad ministry was harming consumers and seeking "extreme profits" with the high ticket prices. The lawyers urged public hearings on the prices. There was no response.

CORRECTION TO THIS ARTICLE
This article about China's aggressive investment in high-speed rail said that China's trains are the world's fastest. The article should have specified that China's conventional high-speed trains are the fastest. That category does not include maglev, a technology that uses powerful magnets to float a wheel-less train just above the track and propel it at high speed. Japan has the world's fastest maglev trains, followed by Shanghai. Although Shanghai's maglev to the airport can travel as fast as 267 mph, China limits the top speed to about 187 mph during peak hours.

 

[SpArK]

congratulations China.. long live India China friendship

 

[mDumb]

Sorry, what I posted earlier was the second page.

Here is the first page:
QINGDAO, CHINA -- Last year, China surpassed the United States as the world's largest automaker. The country is aggressively making jets to compete with Boeing and Airbus. And in recent years, with little outside notice, China made another great leap forward in transportation: It now leads the world in high-speed rail.

High-speed trains were once the preserve of Japan, with its "bullet train," and France, with its TGV. But China's trains are the world's fastest, its network of tracks the longest and its expansion plans the most ambitious. By 2012, just four years after it began its first high-speed passenger service, China will have more high-speed train tracks than the rest of the world combined.

After years of major investment in highways, China is now investing billions in a cutting-edge network of trains and subways designed to boost exports and revolutionize the flow of people and goods in the world's fastest-rising economic powerhouses.

"Just like our investment in the highway system in the 1950s and the rail system in the late 1800s, this will pay huge dividends for China to years to come," said Tim Schweikert, chief executive of GE Transportation China, which signed a deal last year to invest in China's rail expansion in exchange for using Chinese trains and technology to bid on high-speed rail projects in the United States.

Chinese officials said exporting to the United States is part of a broader goal of becoming the chief high-speed train supplier to the world, as well as serving China's vast domestic market.

China's state-owned CSR Sifang has had interest from customers in Thailand, Singapore, the Middle East, as well as the United States, said Gong Ming, chief engineer at CSR's sprawling plant in the city of Qingdao.

A lot of interest

China is one of several countries, including Japan and France, interested in the U.S. high-speed rail market. China is trying to sweeten its bid by offering low-interest financing. And to counter resistance to Chinese incursion into the railway business, the GE deal stipulates that the locomotive components would be 80 percent American and 20 percent Chinese, and all of the final assembly would be done in the United States.

Many of China's high-speed trains are assembled in Qingdao, an industrial city facing the Yellow Sea, in a plant with more than 7,000 workers, including about 2,000 research and design engineers. The plant rolls out 200 sets of sleek new white bullet trains each year, each train set capable of traveling at 217 mph.

In one workshop, which employees call "secret," development is underway on the next-generation train that will travel even faster, taking the world's top passenger speed to 236 mph. The first prototype is scheduled for testing in weeks.

Next year, when a new Beijing-to-Shanghai high-speed line will open (a year ahead of schedule), those fast trains will cut to just four hours the travel time for the 600-mile journey between China's two most important cities.

Trains are creating competition with airlines: After a high-speed train route opened last year between Zhengzhou and Xi'an, airlines stopped all flights between the cities. Travelers preferred a two-hour train ride that cost $57 to a 40-minute flight that cost $73.

Most striking about China's emergence in the high-speed train field is that it is all relatively new; the country's first passenger train to top 186 mph, from Beijing to Tianjin, began operating in 2008. That was about the time that President Obama, then still a senator campaigning for office, was bemoaning the fact that the United States had fallen behind.

 

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<i thought china had already placed its gps>

You're correct. The BeiDou-1 consists of 3 satellites and has limited coverage and applications. It has been offering navigation services mainly for customers in China and from neighboring regions since 2000.

The BeiDou-2 (the second generation known as Compass) which shall be a global satellite navigation system consisting of 35 satellites, is still under construction. It is planned to offer services to customers in Asia-Pacific region by 2012 and the global system should be finished by 2020.