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Transfer of archaeologist from history-defining Sangam era site leads to uproar in Tamil Nadu

yaaaaawwwwnnnnn, all members who havent visited Tamil Nadu even once(some of them dont kno were it is on a map) commenting of Tamil independence!!!. People might b a little unhappy over hindi/sanskrit imposition but I can only LOL at the ignorant posters who believe that there is a war going on. Mooditu unga veleya paarungada, unga veedu pathittu eriyudhu, pakatu veetla enna samayalnu ettipaakreengale muttaapasangala :no:(ur bottom is on fire and you want to check the colour of your neighbours underwear?)
It is not Tamil people but a bunch of goons in the DMK trying to sound alarmist on petty issues to paint the BJP. They are rattled by the results in other states and they know their option is stoking linguistic sentiments. These are the same goons who forced shops in Tamil Nadu to have names written in Tamil and taxed movies with non tamil names which even tamils felt appalled at. People even kicked them out of Jallikattu protests.
Yes the centre at times has tended to impose hindi but it has never worked but these DMK goons keep imposing Tamil in schools on Tamil people and prevent them from learning English while their children study in rich residential english schools.They r a bunch of hypocrites.


A country which broke into half as a result of disrespecting people of other ethnicity is going to help our Tamil culture?? Tamil people hate theocracies including Pakistan and North korea.
and you represent the tamil people?
 
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and you represent the tamil people?
So are you ?A keyboard warrior living thousands of Km away?Dont you see the irony in your statement?
Being a tamil myself I can see their sentiments better than ignorant people on this forum. You can discuss all you want, yes tamils have some distrust towards the central govt but never have they sided with dictators. Onnum theriyaama paruppu madhiri pesradhapaaru, idhuku oru dhandam jaalra vera.
 
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is there anyway Pakistan can help with that?

how strong is the sentiment among tamil people to gain independence ?

very strong and growing day by day due to Hindia's discrimination and exploitation of Tamilnadu


https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/why-is-tamilnadu-angry.485968/

Pakistan should not see Tamils in the same light as the Indians as TAmils have no animosity with Pakistan. Pakistan need to build goodwill with Tamils as it has the legitimate right to fulfill Jinnah's promise to Tamils

Jinnah "I have every sympathy and shall do all to help, and you establish Dravidistan where the 7 per cent Muslim population will stretch its hands of friendship and live with you on lines of security, justice and fairplay."

Jinnah with Periyar the Father of Tamil nationalism

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very strong and growing day by day due to Hindia's discrimination and exploitation of Tamilnadu ( e.g ban on Jallikattu, deny water, attacking Tamil fishermen etc)

Pakistan shoul raelise that Tamils have no animosity with Pakistan and not see Tamils in the same prism as Indians . For a start , Pakistan need to build more goodwill with Tamils ( a sentiment the ******** are not capable off) , plus it legitimate right to fulfill Jinnah's promise to Tamils

Jinnah "I have every sympathy and shall do all to help, and you establish Dravidistan where the 7 per cent Muslim population will stretch its hands of friendship and live with you on lines of security, justice and fairplay."

Jinnah with Periyar the Father of Tamil nationalism

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Tamils have no animosity towards Pakistan? During the Kargil war,one of the largest donations of money and supplies was from one state, guess which one? Your delusions are mind boggling.
Do you think you are someway a superior that you fulfill promises to TN? do you think TN ppl are beggars? Even if we want something , the Tamil diaspora is widespread around the world and wealthy to influence countries. Jinnah said that during a time when TN wasnt as developed it is now. The fact TN is much more developed than Pakistan or any other state in India can only dream of matching,so don't overestimate your importance.
 
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I agree, time for Tamil Nadu to become its own country.


And Taiwan, Tibet etc.

Actually a good move.

It's time regional barriers are destroyed. Too long have vested interests played and profited from this division...
And these NH, which are used by people from all over India. It should have Languages understood by all..

Regarding the crying from TN, they cry for everything now a days...Ever since the Church has lost their steady stream of money due to Modi tightening the screws, the only job they have left is sponsored crying and nothing else..


Don't you have lil thing called common sense... you try to drag religion in every thread... You only said, your motive is for religious not nationalistic. try to talk with sense...

Modi and BJP came to power with the blessing of Christian evangelist Church, they do the work of the church using the Hindutva front

K A Paul an American Indian Christian evangelist preacher has testified BJP bigwigs including Modi came to him by themselves during the 2009 election. Watch and listen to K A Paul


Evangelist Dhinakaran meets Narendra Modi

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-meets-Narendra-Modi/articleshow/23928735.cms

Church boost for Modi
https://www.telegraphindia.com/1140103/jsp/nation/story_17747123.jsp#.WN9nL2iGPIU



K A paul is A1 fraud.... he is pathetic creature on earth..
 
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We are accusing a PM who is not from Hindi belt, but a gujarati for imposing Hindi in Tamil Nadu? What a Joke
 
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Pakistan is an example of what happens if you impose alien language. Let us not repeat the same. Encourage people of South to learn hindi but let us not impose on them.

Hindi is a foreign language to people of Tamil. For North Indians to communicate with Tamils, use English. English is the language that unite India, not Hindi.

DMK Working President MK Stalin, after failing again and again to turn the tide in his favour in the absence of late Chief Minister Jayalalithaa, is getting desperate and is running out of issues to complain about. Stalin has now taken the good old anti-Hindi debate in his hands to take pot shots at Prime Minister Modi and the BJP. He is threatening to create an environment similar to that of 1960s in Tamil Nadu, if Hindi is imposed upon Tamils.

On March 30, 2017, the DMK working president released a detailed statement on imposition of Hindi and cited incidents that were deemed to have imposed Hindi upon Tamils by the BJP government. While opposing the milestone markings in Hindi on national highways, Stalin warned of ‘new’ anti-Hindi protests if Centre continued to favour Hindi at the expense of other languages.

What Stalin failed to know from his advisors was that what NHAI is doing now with regards to the milestones is nothing but implementing a policy decision of the Centre. And when was this policy decision on three-language markings formula taken? In 2006, when DMK’s TR Baalu was the Union Minister for Road Transport, Highways & Shipping.

It is pertinent to note that the Modi government did not pass any law or amendments, and is just implementing what was prescribed by the government in TR Baalu’s period. It was DMK’s failure to forsee that such a policy would hurt Tamil Nadu in future. Hence, Stalin should take moral responsibility for such a goof-up and not target the NHAI, which is just implementing what’s there in the rule book.

On top of this, Stalin, in his long and harshly worded statement, also quoted similar ‘incidents’ that are far from the truth. I would like to give a point-by-point rebuttal to the incidents that Stalin used to lambast PM Modi and the BJP government.

Stalin’s Allegation:

Stalin claims that the BJP-led Modi Government has introduced Sanskrit/Hindi as a third language in place of German, and thus is imposing Hindi.

Truth:

The three-language formula being followed by Kendriya Vidyalayas is very clear that only those among the 23 Indian languages listed in Schedule 8 of the Constitution could be opted for. Other foreign languages like German, Spanish, Russian can only continue to be taught as a foreign language.

The existing setup of having German as third language by the Congress-led UPA Government was illegal and was in violation of constitutional provisions.

German was introduced as a third language in Kendriya Vidyalayas following the signing of MoU between the Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangthan and the Goethe Institute of Max Mueller Bhavan in 2011. The agreement, that was for three years, ended in 2014. The Modi government, while introducing Sanskrit as third language, has taken the position that the MoU between the Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangthan and the Goethe Institute of Max Mueller Bhavan was illegal and in violation of constitutional provisions. Hence, the agreement was not renewed.

Where is Hindi or Sanskrit imposition here, Mr Stalin? More so, Tamil Nadu and Puducherry are places where the three-language formula is not in place with regards to the Kendriya Vidyalayas. So why are you bothered about something that has no connection to Tamil Nadu?

Stalin’s Allegation:

‘Sanskrit Week’ is forced upon schools to be celebrated mandatorily.

Truth:

Again, a blatant lie. The Modi government never forced any school to mandatorily celebrate Sanskrit Week. The circular issued by HRD Ministry clearly reads, “In its endeavor to promote Sanskrit, the schools affiliated to CBSE may celebrate Sanskrit Week in an experiential manner by conducting activities connected to the real world.” It establishes that there is no mandatory clause.

Why should Stalin bother if someone really wants to celebrate Sanskrit? How is Tamil being compromised if a Sanskrit Week is celebrated?

Stalin’s Allegation:

Introduction of half-hour Sanskrit news bulletin in Doordarshan is Sanskrit imposition.

Truth:

The fact is that Doordarshan already had a five-minute Sanskrit news bulletin, 'Varta', which is telecast at 6.55 pm every day. In addition to that, DD News launched a half-hour News Mag in Sanskrit in June 2015, as decided at the 16th World Sanskrit Conference, Bangkok. It has been made amply clear by Doordarshan officials that there have been demands from a section of viewers for a news programme in Sanskrit for a long time, and that DD News, being the public broadcaster, wanted to cater to this demand, and launched the programme in order to attract a niche audience.

Will Stalin make it clear how Tamil was compromised or Sanskrit was imposed upon the people of Tamil Nadu?

Stalin’s Allegation:

Law Commission reports are being made available in Hindi as well.

Truth:

Large sections of Indian people speak Hindi. Earlier, Law Commission reports were prepared only in English. Stalin should understand that entire country is not privileged to get convent school English education. With Hindi being one of the largest spoken languages for Indians, the government is preparing the reports in Hindi language to help the students where Hindi is spoken the most.

If Stalin is a progressive leader, he should have demanded publishing the Law Commission Reports in Tamil as well, rather than complaining about those being made available in Hindi.

Further, this can no way, even in the wildest dreams, can be considered as imposition of Hindi at the cost of Tamil.

Stalin’s Allegation:

Modi government is forcing government officers and Departments to use Hindi as a communication language, thus imposing Hindi.

Truth:

Stalin is again, in spite of being proven wrong multiple times, attributing a circular that was issued by the Congress-led UPA government to the BJP Government. The fact is this: The Department of Official Languages, Ministry of Home Affairs, Government of India had issued a circular on 10th March, 2014 (UPA Government was in place then) stating that in keeping with the existing policy of the government regarding use of Hindi, Government of India communication in ‘A’ category States i.e Hindi speaking States, must give equal importance to the use of Hindi in its social media platforms. The instructions reiterated that both English and Hindi must be used on official Twitter, Facebook, blogs etc. by the Government of India.

It is further also clarified that these instructions of the Department of Official Languages dated March 10, 2014, do not seek to impose communication in Hindi on States which are not Hindi speaking. Therefore, Tamil Nadu is no way related to this circular, but still Stalin would spread lies and keep harping on this to score brownie points. The instructions of Department of Official Languages have only reiterated the existing Government of India policy on the use of Hindi, in which the use of Hindi is compulsory in government communication in the Hindi speaking states.

Therefore, I would request Stalin to make allegations that are true in nature hereafter, rather than depending on lies to build up a political case. This is not doing justice to the senior position he is holding in the political space of Tamil Nadu.


http://www.thenewsminute.com/articl...i-tn-bjp-man-s-terse-response-mk-stalin-59636

Why call himself Stalin. It was a total shock to see that name. He should change the name to avoid any confusion.

When I see"Stalin's allegation" I thought at least 10 people die in a show trial.

Soon the tamil language will be forgotten to history like the language of the Indus Valley! Hindi will conquer tamil nadu!!
With how the things going now, Tamil will be force to learn Hindi. Tamil need to regain independence.
 
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Soon the tamil language will be forgotten to history like the language of the Indus Valley! Hindi will conquer tamil nadu!!

Hindi itself has no historical significance.

Three language policy is the way to go in Indian Subcontinent.

Samskritam is the parent language of all dharmic cultures

Vedas and Mantras in Samskritam have been passed from one generation to another verbally and not in written form.

Samskritham has been written using various Indian scripts over the ages. Devanagari is just one of them.


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We are accusing a PM who is not from Hindi belt, but a gujarati for imposing Hindi in Tamil Nadu? What a Joke

Modi is a Hindi chauvinist , this is an affirmation of his RSS ideology - Hindi-Hindu-Hindustan

No more English, Modi chooses Hindi for talks with foreign leaders

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...chooses-hindi-for-talks-with-foreign-leaders/

While students from Imphal in Manipur, Tinsukia in Assam, Leh in Ladakh, Thiruvanamalai in Tamil Nadu and even a few schools in Delhi put their questions to the Prime Minister in English, Modi invariably responded in Hindi, with a few English words thrown in.

The message was simple: Hindi is to be the lingua franca of this nationalist government, and not English as before. Even during his recent visit to Japan, Modi conversed and spoke largely in Hindi,

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/modi-makes-a-point-about-hindi/article6383895.ece
 
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Modi is a Hindi chauvinist , this is an affirmation of his RSS ideology - Hindi-Hindu-Hindustan

No more English, Modi chooses Hindi for talks with foreign leaders

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...chooses-hindi-for-talks-with-foreign-leaders/

While students from Imphal in Manipur, Tinsukia in Assam, Leh in Ladakh, Thiruvanamalai in Tamil Nadu and even a few schools in Delhi put their questions to the Prime Minister in English, Modi invariably responded in Hindi, with a few English words thrown in.

The message was simple: Hindi is to be the lingua franca of this nationalist government, and not English as before. Even during his recent visit to Japan, Modi conversed and spoke largely in Hindi,

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/modi-makes-a-point-about-hindi/article6383895.ece

Hindi closer to tamil. Only 800 kms away
 
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Hindi Imperialist Hypocrisy

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Are there 3 languages in that milestone? What the languages other than English?

Bitching and moaning and crying... is it a Tamil national past time?

First they will ridicule you, then they will suppress you, then you will win!

Be careful what you wish for.. Next thing you know these leeches will
Say China was a part of Dravida Nadu three billion years ago and Chinese people are Originally Tamils :p:

Gibbs, why do you hate us? As far as I know we never occupy your land, we did not rob you, we did not rape you, we did not kill you. Why you hate us?


It is pertinent to note that the Modi government did not pass any law or amendments, and is just implementing what was prescribed by the government in TR Baalu’s period.

True, Modi did not pass any law. What he is doing is violating existing law. Law says Hindi and English must be used as long as non-Hindi states want. He removed English from milestone. He is a criminal violating law. But he has the army. Nothing we can do about it.

The fact is that Doordarshan already had a five-minute Sans5 minkrit news bulletin, 'Varta', which is telecast at 6.55 pm every day

There is no India-wide broadcast in Tamil, Bengali, Punjabi, etc Why 5 minute or 30 minute broadcast for a dead language less than 1 in a lakh know?

Large sections of Indian people speak Hindi.

So what? Large number of Asians speak Chinese. Remove Hindi and put Chinese.

Soon the tamil language will be forgotten to history like the language of the Indus Valley! Hindi will conquer tamil nadu!!

AGREE.

"As long as Tamil Nadu is part of India, Hindi will be imposed on the Tamil people irrespective of who is in power in New Delhi or who is in power in Tamil Nadu." Chisel these words on a rock and set that rock in front of the Tamil Nadu State Legislative Assembly. click that to get full article

how strong is the sentiment among tamil people to gain independence ?

How many people want independence for Tamil Nadu from Indian rule? I do not know. No one knows! Only way to know is to conduct a plebiscite (a vote) in Tamil Nadu with two choices: (a) I want Tamil Nadu to continue as a state of the Indian Union. (b) I want Tamil Nadu to be an independent country.

The Indian government would never allow such a plebiscite (a vote) voluntarily because they suspect that the outcome would be for an independent Tamil Nadu. Otherwise, they would have conducted such a vote and shut the few "loud voices of independence" once and for all

A keyboard warrior living thousands of Km away?Dont you see the irony in your statement?

The pencil pushing Hindi politicians can rule Tamil Nadu from 600 KM away in Delhi....?
 
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And Taiwan, Tibet etc.

Don't even compare Taiwan and Tibet with Tamilnadu. Tamils are more patriotic Indians than you people see in this forum, We have proved @manlion and @kvpak are not Tamils in other threads, they are just searching for hate media reports from websites and sharing it in this form, don't get misguided.

I would like to remind you guys that Tamilnadu gave the highest fund for the Kargil relief fund and yes we against hindi or any language being imposed on our people, But we are open to learn hindi as 3rd language in education system.
 
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