Transfer of archaeologist from history-defining Sangam era site leads to uproar in Tamil Nadu

[takeiteasy]

that you worship and religion itself is still "Aryan" in origin

What you don't know is that Hinduism has absorbed local pagan and tribal religions. Tamils may have worshipped different deities than that of Hinduism. The typical way Hinduism absorbs tribal religions is to associate the tribal deity as into a form of Brahma or Vishnu or Shiva - tracking down to any of them, including various mother goddesses and other Hindu customs. There is no sense in assuming tribal religions in India as well as outside are part of Hinduism. This is a ploy of RSS.

As regarding Aryans from steppe populated north west India and propagated Hinduism. Well, I've travelled across India for decades, there isn't really significant differences in population except Punjabis and Kashmiris (may be). Most Indians are not from Caucusus nor seems to have any Vedic Brahmin origin. The population is a mix of Caucasians+Australoids.

 

[xairhossi]

What you don't know is that Hinduism has absorbed local pagan and tribal religions. Tamils may have worshipped different deities than that of Hinduism. The typical way Hinduism absorbs tribal religions is to associate the tribal deity as into a form of Brahma or Vishnu or Shiva - tracking down to any of them, including various mother goddesses and other Hindu customs. There is no sense in assuming tribal religions in India as well as outside are part of Hinduism. This is a ploy of RSS.

The sort of "Hinduism" or "satana dharma" or whatever you call it, that South Indians/Tamils practice is still Aryan in origin, as well as is the caste system and half of the deities. This isn't tribal religion, or absorption of it even though it happened to some degree

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[manlion]

Guru Granth is not in Lahnda, it seems to be in some extinct dialect of Punjabi.

And even if the script or language is classical Tamil for these religious texts, the gods etc. that you worship and religion itself is still "Aryan" in origin and brought on by the invaders from the steppe, who spoke Vedic Sanskrit so your hate for Sanskrit or Vedicism or whatever doesn't make sense. And there are Tamil Brahmins as well, they claim descent from those Vedic Aryans

Through acculturation, Aryans appropriated indigenous culture into Vedic Brahmanism , the gods of the Dravidian cults were inducted into mainstream Vedic Brahmanism especially through Adi Sankara 10th AD. The Dravidian gods not mentioned in the vedas made their glorious entry into post Vedic Hinduism replacing the 3 main Aryan gods - Varuna, Agni and Indra worshipped through ritualistic fire sacrifices.

Lynn Ate, a Doctorate in Classical Tamil Literature, from the US, who has been researching on religious reference in Sangam literary works for the past four decades, notes, “Early Tamils defined God as immanent, existing within a space. They demarcated sacred space with a flag post and worshipped it. That’s why we still find Kodi Maram only in the temples of the south.”

She adds, “In contrast to the Vedic gods which were sky-dwelling, the Dravidian deities were positioned on earth. The concept of God was not placed upon a pedestal and was more accessible.”

Lastly , Hindus should be grateful to Tamils who revived 'Hinduism' through their 'bhakti' (sufi) movements - a great movement in the religious and cultural history of India, when the Vedic religion faced the threat of extinction from the emergence Buddhism and Islam

https://www.scribd.com/document/190853274/Bhakti-Movement

The Bhakti cult espoused a virulent rejection of Brahmanical orthodoxy and suggested that salvation was a personal matter, which did not require the intervention of priests and clerics. It could be attained by means of pure devotion to God. The movement took root in the sixth century in Tamil Nadu where it had distinctly heterodox origins. The Bhakti cult then spread to other parts of India and finally also to northern India, giving an entirely new perspective to Hinduism

Theres a Hindutva propagandist in PDF - who will falsely claim Bhakti movement wasc started by Adi Shankara - a smarta Brahmin

 

[manlion]

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damn son

Lions of the Western Ghats, Sher e Dravida, the Golden Lungi Horde, King of the Dosas, Madrasi-Nator 5000, Lord of the Coconut-Curries

Hindi Imposition is an intentional agenda to make it the national language, nothing is going to stop these H ******** from implementing their sinister agenda. The need for Tamils is to change the mode of protest

 

[xairhossi]

Through acculturation, Aryans appropriated indigenous culture into Vedic Brahmanism , the gods of the Dravidian cults were inducted into mainstream Vedic Brahmanism especially through Adi Sankara 10th AD. The Dravidian gods not mentioned in the vedas made their glorious entry into post Vedic Hinduism replacing the 3 main Aryan gods - Varuna, Agni and Indra worshipped through ritualistic fire sacrifices.





Lastly , Hindus should be grateful to Tamils who revived 'Hinduism' through their 'bhakti' (sufi) movements - a great movement in the religious and cultural history of India, when the Vedic religion faced the threat of extinction from the emergence Buddhism and Islam

https://www.scribd.com/document/190853274/Bhakti-Movement

The Bhakti cult espoused a virulent rejection of Brahmanical orthodoxy and suggested that salvation was a personal matter, which did not require the intervention of priests and clerics. It could be attained by means of pure devotion to God. The movement took root in the sixth century in Tamil Nadu where it had distinctly heterodox origins. The Bhakti cult then spread to other parts of India and finally also to northern India, giving an entirely new perspective to Hinduism

Theres a Hindutva propagandist in PDF - who will falsely claim Bhakti movement wasc started by Adi Shankara - a smarta Brahmin

Vedic religion is already long dead, no one worships the main Vedic deities like Indra etc., or believes in slaying dark skinned, noseless dasyus. And there are Tamil Brahmins too, they occupy most influential positions in Tamil society.
Are you a Dravid Nadu advocate or something?

 

[manlion]

Vedic religion is already long dead, no one worships the main Vedic deities like Indra etc., or believes in slaying dark skinned, noseless dasyus. And there are Tamil Brahmins too, they occupy most influential positions in Tamil society.
Are you a Dravid Nadu advocate or something?

Tamil Brahmin are an interesting lot - e.g the Iyengars - One sect the Vada kalai identify themselves with Aryan and Sanskrit, the other Then kalai - identifies with Tamil. This proves the theory that Non Brahmin Dravidian priests could have been absorbed into mainstream Brahmanism in the later period. The influenticial anti Tamil, Hindutva Brahmin lobby consist mostly from the smarta (iyer) and vada kalai Brahmin stock

India is a region terror only its balkanization can bring peace to the region

 

[xairhossi]

This proves the theory that Non Brahmin Dravidian priests could have been absorbed into mainstream Brahmanism in the later period.

Unlikely since Tamil Brahmins are more "West-shifted" genetically as compared to other Tamils. This goes along with their claim of coming from Sapta-Sindhu or Punjab.
How much % of Tamil Nadu's population do they form anyway? And are you for an independent Tamil state or a "David Nadu" including Kerala, Kannadiga etc.?

 

[manlion]

Unlikely since Tamil Brahmins are more "West-shifted" genetically as compared to other Tamils. This goes along with their claim of coming from Sapta-Sindhu or Punjab.
How much % of Tamil Nadu's population do they form anyway? And are you for an independent Tamil state or a "David Nadu" including Kerala, Kannadiga etc.?

My theory - Tamil Brahmins are Jews who posed as Brahmins, infiltrated and controlled the religion (similar to their infiltration into Salafism )

Tamil Brahmins constitute less than 2.5 % of the total TN pop but politically wield a strong influence and are supposed to be 'brainy'.

The Parashurama myth of origin is identical to the myth that claimed by the Bene Israel of the Kolaba district. According to Bene Israeli myth, the Chitpavan and Bene Israel are descendants from a group of 14 people shipwrecked off the Konkan coast. One group converted to Hinduism as Chitpavan Brahmins, the other remained Jewish or Bene Israel.[11][12][13]

Independent Tamilnadu , no Dravida Nadu

 

[foxtrot1]

When a non-tamil can take up the cause of Tamil, why can't a Gujarati take up the cause of Hindi.

because it's about religion not idli sambhar

Tirupathi is in Tamil Nadu, Rameshwaram is in Tamil Nadu, Meenaxi is in tamil nadu ...

The decorum followed in south to enter a temple is more strict than north. This proves how sincere people from south are when it comes to culture, and divinity.

 

[foxtrot1]

Tamil banega Tamildesh.

LTTE was making one, but your Pakistan supported Sri Lanka to supress it.

 

[I S I]

LTTE was making one, but your Pakistan supported Sri Lanka to supress it.

Because we wanted to see its Capital in "Akhand Bharat". Now they will get support & goodies from ISI's R division.

 

[StraightShooter]

LTTE was making one, but your Pakistan supported Sri Lanka to supress it.

ISI was clueless

 

[foxtrot1]

ISI was clueless

not at all

 

[StraightShooter]

not at all

So you are saying they intentionally went against the Tamils?

 

[foxtrot1]

So you are saying they intentionally went against the Tamils?

yes, to take confidence of SL and facilitate Chinese