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Trade war: US beef and pork disappearing from China

By CGTN’s Ding Yi&Han Peng
2018-07-06


The US beef industry is caught in the crossfire of an escalating China-US trade war after China launched retaliatory tariffs.

US tariffs on 34 billion dollars' worth of Chinese goods took effect on Friday, triggering immediate counter measures from Beijing.

“The total taxes on US beef rose from just over 20 percent to a staggering 52 percent,” said Zhu Xiaojun, owner of PC Wok Steakhouse. “As a result, the prices of the US beef have become ridiculously high to our restaurant.”

Zhu's restaurant, located in downtown Shanghai, sells steaks from both the US and Australia. The origin of the products are indicated to customers with the official stamps by the Chinese customs on the meat.

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Steak made by US beef is popular among Chinese./CGTN Photo‍

But Zhu said most of their suppliers had stopped importing the beef from the US. Xu Wei is one of Zhu's suppliers. His company, Shanghai New Source International Trading Company, is the largest food importer in Shanghai.

Last July, China lifted a ban on US beef imports, and Xu’s firm was one of the first to start importing beef from the US. However, Xu said he had put his business with US partners on hold.

“We had sharply reduced the import of US beef and other agricultural products, including pork,” said Xu, “Now we import from Europe instead.”

Most of the US pork imported to China are not the main part of the pig, but spare parts like pig heads and feet. They are seldom consumed by people in other countries except the Chinese, who can cook them into delicious cuisines.

“After the price hike, Chinese customers and importers still face a wide range of choices. It’s the US farmers who will feel the pain of the tariffs,” Xu added.

Beef and pork are just two of the long list of US commodities China is targeting in its latest round of tariffs, in response to Trump’s trade war.

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Good. After all, the US beef is contaminated.
 
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Some in U.S. are thinking it will be a proportional response from China... but in dollar for dollar response U.S. can charge tariffs on 100% of imports but will be paying the same amount in tariffs... i don't know why the pumpkin thinks they will not charge dollar for dollar tariffs
 
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Some in U.S. are thinking it will be a proportional response from China... but in dollar for dollar response U.S. can charge tariffs on 100% of imports but will be paying the same amount in tariffs... i don't know why the pumpkin thinks they will not charge dollar for dollar tariffs

That is because trade war is not about tax, it's about sustainability. And which side depending on which side more.

Usually the one with Trade surplus would lose. And in this case, it is China.

Why?

Because while China can match US dollars to dollars, but since there are MUCH more Chinese Product US can impose tax than the other way. Which mean if China were to match US dollar to dollar, China would have to double the amount of tax (or whatever amount more required) to match the dollar value to the US.

Say if US impose a 10% of tax in Chinese imported Machinery, which can mean 10% of multi-millions dollar. Which is in itself hundred of thousand of dollars, while China, on the other hand, tax a US imported Car (as if anyone still buying those....) however, a Car does not worth as much as a Industrial Machine, which mean to get up to US level, you will need to probably charge a 3 to 400% tax of the car.

While it may not be Machine vs Car in reality, but in reality we know China have trade surplus over US (Which is why the trade war started in the first place) which mean to achieve dollar to dollar, Chinese tax levy have to be more.

However, just because Chinese Charge more tax, that does not mean that product is not needed in China (That is why it have a market in the first place) Which mean it damage Chinese more (due to higher tax) than US (which you have lower tax on product import from China)

In a long run, it's depends on who can live without who in the market. And since China have more Trade Deficit than US, although it does not mean Chinese are depending more on US market, it do mean China will lose more than US if the trade war continue.
 
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American Pork is haram

Pakistan should start exporting pork to China, there are lots of pigs and boars in Pakistan destroying the crops. It will be win-win for both.

We do that already when they need to be culled.

An industry however should be there.
 
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Good. After all, the US beef is contaminated.

Some one would say Chinese beef is contaminated and that is the reason why Chinese import American Beef.

But all in all, beef quality range from Angus (Scotland) then Wangu or Kobe (Japan) first, I don't think American made the list, only that Chinese beef is even worse...
 
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Some one would say Chinese beef is contaminated and that is the reason why Chinese import American Beef.

But all in all, beef quality range from Angus (Scotland) then Wangu or Kobe (Japan) first, I don't think American made the list, only that Chinese beef is even worse...

I don’t remember ever seeing US beef in a store in Sweden.
Meat is European or from South America.
 
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I don’t remember ever seeing US beef in a store in Sweden.
Meat is European or from South America.

American beef is usually for Beef Mince, Bone-in-Ripeye and also American style Beef Rips

American pork is more popular.
 
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if usa stop import from china china in big problem
 
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