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https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/06/12/trump-china-tariffs-trade-622935

President Donald Trump is expected to impose tariffs on Chinese goods as soon as Friday or next week, according to two sources briefed on internal deliberations, a move that is sure to further inflame tensions and spark almost immediate retaliation from Beijing.

The administration on Friday is planning to publish a final list of Chinese goods that will take the hit.

The aggressive stance calls into question the future of talks between the two trade powers, which took a friendly turn in the weeks leading up to the North Korea summit as the U.S. sought China’s help. China was seen as playing a key role in getting North Korean leader Kim Jong Un to the table with Trump, who has consistently linked his trade demands to Beijing’s willingness to help on North Korea.
 
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The Chinese elites are terrified of a trade war. The CPC will not do much to counter it but will make concessions to US.
 
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Then the Chinese elites must be replaced by the common people!
My Chinese friends tell me in China people want the government to be more aggressive towards hostile forces but the government is stopping the people for being too patriotic. Although they are the minority views, my circle of chinese friends do not like the current CPC government.
 
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My Chinese friends tell me in China people want the government to be more aggressive towards hostile forces but the government is stopping the people for being too patriotic. Although they are the minority views, my circle of chinese friends do not like the current CPC government.
The current administration is already much stronger than the previous ones but the assertiveness seen in 2016 and 2017 is conspicuously absent this year. Fingers crossed the tides will turn again.

@ChineseTiger1986
 
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Then the Chinese elites must be replaced by the common people! Mao said the revolution must continue to rejuvenate itself.
The CCP will make concessions, by it will never abandon the made in China 2025 plan. It is a redline. The CCP is actually being prudent by not initiating a full scale trade war. And plus if you look at the ‘concessions’, you’d notice that they were planned anyway.
 
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The current administration is already much stronger than the previous ones but the assertiveness seen in 2016 and 2017 is conspicuously absent this year. Fingers crossed the tides will turn again.

@ChineseTiger1986

Li Keqiang and Liu He both need to get fired, and replace them with tougher Maoists or smart savvy officials like Huang Qifan.
 
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China won't make any concessions. Just pledges and policy actions that were going to be taken regardless in the last CCP Economic Plan to transition to a more market-based economy (refer to the reduced tariffs on imported autos). These actions will be taken by duffers and jingos in the west as concessions and China will be more than happy to give them a sense of glee and a "win".
 
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Li Keqiang and Liu He both need to get fired, and replace them with tougher Maoists or smart savvy officials like Huang Qifan.

No matter who you replace, if China don't have something to hold US by the ball, they will keep demanding. ZTE is a good example of playing tough to ignore US's warning regarding deal with Iran while itself is depending on US's Chips (LMAO) for their product...and end up to get owned. The best way for China to counter US's trade war is to diversify itself of too reliant to US either import or export, for now I think China shouldn't recklessly go for trade war but to try find the solution unless US is really pushing China to the edge of the cliff.
 
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Li Keqiang and Liu He both need to get fired, and replace them with tougher Maoists or smart savvy officials like Huang Qifan.

Well, bad news for you, that Maoist don't have privilege anymore in China. Look at them, they couldn't even make gathering in China, and have to do it in Hongkong.
 
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No matter who you replace, if China don't have something to hold US by the ball, they will keep demanding. ZTE is a good example of playing tough to ignore US's warning regarding deal with Iran while itself is depending on US's Chips (LMAO) for their product...and end up to get owned. The best way for China to counter US's trade war is to diversify itself of too reliant to US either import or export, for now I think China shouldn't recklessly go for trade war but to try find the solution unless US is really pushing China to the edge of the cliff.

Both ZTE and Lenovo are shitty companies that deserve to go broke.

Just look at Huawei, there is nothing that the US can do about them, because they don't rely on the US technology and market, and they have developed their own core technologies since long time ago. This is some long sight strategic planning that shitty traitorous companies like ZTE and Lenovo would never learn.

Well, bad news for you, that Maoist don't have privilege anymore in China. Look at them, they couldn't even make gathering in China, and have to do it in Hongkong.

LMAO, CPC's only loyalists are Maoists, because that's their core base. Just like GOP's core base is the tea party and the alt right folks.

More Chinese patriots are now awakening due the fact of 40 years treason committed by the Dengists.

The US is slowly returning to its fascist root, and sooner or later, CPC will eventually return to its Maoist root.

The Dengism was just an aberration in the last 40 years, and now it is the time to put this show to an end.
 
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Then the Chinese elites must be replaced by the common people! Mao said the revolution must continue to rejuvenate itself.

The Dengist traitors just like the KMT government would just sell China for their own personal interests, but today's China is too strong, the pride is too much, so she won't go down without a brutal fight, even a weak China from the WWII didn't go down without a fight.

Whether Xi Jinping likes the Maoists or not, if he don't want to become a traitor and go down as the worst Chinese leader of all time, he has to cooperate with Chairman Mao's loyalists and finished off all those Dengist traitors. And in every time when China faces a critical situation, it was Chairman Mao and his spirit saved China, and this time it won't be any exception at all.
 
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Both ZTE and Lenovo are shitty companies that deserve to go broke.

Just look at Huawei, there is nothing that the US can do about them, because they don't rely on the US technology and market, and they have developed their own core technologies since long time ago. This is some long sight strategic planning that shitty traitorous companies like ZTE and Lenovo would never learn.
I can tell you based on first hand experience that ZTE is a shitty company with shitty management. If it wasn't for government support in the form of protecting market share ZTE would be outcompeted by others a long time ago.

LMAO, CPC's only loyalists are Maoists, because that's their core base. Just like GOP's core base is the tea party and the alt right folks.

More Chinese patriots are now awakening due the fact of 40 years treason committed by the Dengists.

The US is slowly returning to its fascist root, and sooner or later, CPC will eventually return to its Maoist root.

The Dengism was just an aberration in the last 40 years, and now it is the time to put this show to an end.
Deng himself said: "If the society polarizes, then reform and opening up would have failed." Look at Chinese society now.

The rich elites are now pretending their selfish interests are a form of national interest. The SOEs used to be inefficient but at least provided mass employment. Nowadays they are not much more efficient and instead are cesspools for corruption and poor management.

No matter who you replace, if China don't have something to hold US by the ball, they will keep demanding. ZTE is a good example of playing tough to ignore US's warning regarding deal with Iran while itself is depending on US's Chips (LMAO) for their product...and end up to get owned. The best way for China to counter US's trade war is to diversify itself of too reliant to US either import or export, for now I think China shouldn't recklessly go for trade war but to try find the solution unless US is really pushing China to the edge of the cliff.
Comrade, your post is an example of self-contradiction. You said so yourself "they will keep pushing" and then you claim it is "reckless" to choose trade war since you think we are not at "the edge of the cliff".

Actually, it is precisely because "they will keep pushing" that we are already at "the edge of the cliff". A trade war is not reckless but it's the only way to hold them by the balls.

Besides, a trade war damages nobody but the rich elites! So why should China accept humiliation for the benefit of rich elites? The elites will sell out the country by accepting one concession after another while claiming "the enemy did not cross the red line yet so we don't need to recklessly retaliate."

The Dengist traitors just like the KMT government would just sell China for their own personal interests, but today's China is too strong, the pride is too much, so she won't go down without a brutal fight, even a weak China from the WWII didn't go down without a fight.

Whether Xi Jinping like the Maoists or not, if he don't want to become a traitor and go down as the worst Chinese leader of all time, he has to cooperate with Chairman Mao's loyalists and finished off all those Dengist traitors. And in every time when China faces a critical situation, it was Chairman Mao and his spirit saved China, and this time it won't be any exception at all.
Creating the red capitalist class was a huge blunder because it simply entrenched the political class into business without properly adopting a real free market system. The original idea was to adopt the free market system and the red capitalists would be only a transition. That never happened because the entrenched class manipulated the system to reject change.

For decades, the "transitional" period was justified by the high growth rates and infrastructure improvements. Now both have run their course and the selfish interests of the elites are now clearly pushing in a direction contrary to national interests.

What is the big deal about a trade war? The average citizen is not even affected. Yet some elites are willing to sell Taiwan to avoid a trade war.
 
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I can tell you based on first hand experience that ZTE is a shitty company with shitty management. If it wasn't for government support in the form of protecting market share ZTE would be outcompeted by others a long time ago.

Deng himself said: "If the society polarizes, then reform and opening up would have failed." Look at Chinese society now.

The rich elites are now pretending their selfish interests are a form of national interest. The SOEs used to be inefficient but at least provided mass employment. Nowadays they are not much more efficient and instead are cesspools for corruption and poor management.

Comrade, your post is an example of self-contradiction. You said so yourself "they will keep pushing" and then you claim it is "reckless" to choose trade war since you think we are not at "the edge of the cliff".

Actually, it is precisely because "they will keep pushing" that we are already at "the edge of the cliff". A trade war is not reckless but it's the only way to hold them by the balls.

Besides, a trade war damages nobody but the rich elites! So why should China accept humiliation for the benefit of rich elites? The elites will sell out the country by accepting one concession after another while claiming "the enemy did not cross the red line yet so we don't need to recklessly retaliate."

Creating the red capitalist class was a huge blunder because it simply entrenched the political class into business without properly adopting a real free market system. The original idea was to adopt the free market system and the red capitalists would be only a transition. That never happened because the entrenched class manipulated the system to reject change.

For decades, the "transitional" period was justified by the high growth rates and infrastructure improvements. Now both have run their course and the selfish interests of the elites are now clearly pushing in a direction contrary to national interests.

What is the big deal about a trade war? The average citizen is not even affected. Yet some elites are willing to sell Taiwan to avoid a trade war.

ZTE and Lenovo are examples of the privatized SOEs.

Many SOEs can run efficiently, but those traitorous Dengist princelings just purposely destroyed it by using the mismanagement, then privatize it in pretence of "revitalizing the economy".

When the SOEs have been privatized, they don't serve the interests of the country and its people anymore. Instead of pouring the money into the research and development, they are messing up the housing price and stock market.

Huawei is absolutely an exception, even it is a private company, but it serves itself as a patriotic SOE.

ZTE and Lenovo are just a disgrace, these fallen privatized SOEs were running by the Dengist princelings behind the curtain.

China still needs to be run by the SOEs, and you cannot expect all private companies to be patriotic and accountable like Huawei, especially those disgraceful fallen privatized SOEs running by the Dengist princelings like ZTE and Lenovo.
 
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Both ZTE and Lenovo are shitty companies that deserve to go broke.
zte is definitely deserve to go broke. zte had subsidiary chip company called 'zte microelectronics technology' similar to huawei's hisilicon. instead of pouring money into that division like huawei to develop stuff for themselves, they prefer to buy stuff from outside and let the company rotted. the chip company is now owned by xiaomi and they gonna fully make use of it and laugh at zte. i can't wait for their 'surge' chips to get better and better, then dump qualcomm's sh1t just like huawei after they got their kirins :lol:
 
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