Toyota just became Kodak - Q3 profit collapses, losses begin

[One_Nation]

Japanese aren't doing anything wrong.

The problem with traditional automakers is that electric cars are based on a completely different technology compared to combustion engines. Combustion engines have lots of moving parts so its harder to achieve efficiency and reliability which have been perfected by traditional car makers. Any newcomer in that industry has an uphill task of achieving that efficiency and reliability.

This is not an issue with electric motors. Even Toshiba came up with a concept electric car.
Traditional car makers cannot dominate in that area. They can only leverage existing brand value to push electric cars but they will eventually be challenged by equally good or better product from a new comer like tesla and Chinese electric cars.

 

[serenity]

Toyota CEO bet big on hydrogen fuel cell.

HFC is a good technology and many countries and companies are developing it too. China and Germany have many. Hydrogen combustion is yet another hydrogen propelled engine for vehicles but suitable only for heavy vehicles. That isn't something done by Toyota but there's a Chinese company that put into production a hydrogen combustion engine for trucks.

Hydrogen powered engines whether direct combustion or through capacitors, is just a stupid idea for commercial passenger vehicles. Why? scale. Another why? hydrogen production costs A LOT of energy. Not to mention for combustion and even fuel cell, supply chain is difficult and more expensive for safety concerns. Just like LNG is logistics and supply demanding creating huge elasticities in its economics, hydrogen powered vehicles require global shifts in entire production to supply. It was never going to take off to the scale battery powered EV were. Car's battery can be charged by a grid that uses gas turbines, hydroelectric generators, nuclear fission, coal, solar, wind, some day also nuclear fusion hopefully. Hydrogen fuel cell means you have to have huge global factories everywhere synthesizing and storing incredible volumes of H2 that's never been done industrially before on such a scale as to power 100s of millions of cars.

Good thing to research develop and make as many are but totally stupid idea for passenger cars.

Battery NEV >> ICE >>> Hydrogen fuel cell >> Hydrogen combustion

 

[Communism]

They had better hurry up because they are already in deep deep deep sh*t. Not only did a Tesla top their EV list but it also topped their #1 gasoline selling model too.

October 10, 2022

Tesla Model Y is the best selling car in Germany, period

The Tesla Model Y is now Germany's best selling vehicle overall, even beating the dreadnaught Volkswagen Golf.

www.teslarati.com

"The Tesla Model Y has long been one of the brand’s most successful vehicles, but few expected it to be Germany’s best-selling vehicle in September."

Dumbass Europeans still subsidizing battery electric and diesel cars when it's clear that gasoline will be the cheapest fuel for Europeans for the foreseeable future.


The only type of cars that make sense for Europeans is Gasoline Electric Hybrid.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Toyota CEO bet big on hydrogen fuel cell.

HFC is a good technology and many countries and companies are developing it too. China and Germany have many. Hydrogen combustion is yet another hydrogen propelled engine for vehicles but suitable only for heavy vehicles. That isn't something done by Toyota but there's a Chinese company that put into production a hydrogen combustion engine for trucks.

Hydrogen powered engines whether direct combustion or through capacitors, is just a stupid idea for commercial passenger vehicles. Why? scale. Another why? hydrogen production costs A LOT of energy. Not to mention for combustion and even fuel cell, supply chain is difficult and more expensive for safety concerns. Just like LNG is logistics and supply demanding creating huge elasticities in its economics, hydrogen powered vehicles require global shifts in entire production to supply. It was never going to take off to the scale battery powered EV were. Car's battery can be charged by a grid that uses gas turbines, hydroelectric generators, nuclear fission, coal, solar, wind, some day also nuclear fusion hopefully. Hydrogen fuel cell means you have to have huge global factories everywhere synthesizing and storing incredible volumes of H2 that's never been done industrially before on such a scale as to power 100s of millions of cars.

Good thing to research develop and make as many are but totally stupid idea for passenger cars.

Battery NEV >> ICE >>> Hydrogen fuel cell >> Hydrogen combustion

I think only completely zero emission vehicles are going to be acceptable in the future.

I don’t think people realize how dramatic the changes will be in city engineering when gasoline fumes are not an issue.

You will be able to just drive into buildings.

You’ll see huge domed climate controlled areas covering several city blocks. Streets will have ceilings.