‘Tortured’ prisoner’s body arrives from India

[moha199]

Dabong.

Fine India is stupid.

Start a war and be satisfied!

Come on Salim bro i told you no hard feelings what i said was right and i am standing by it but if you think i want you to love Pakistan then i will say NO dont love Pakistan. Indian GOV needs to understand that Pakistan is a mature country and has respect nore that i want a war now lol come on brother i don't even wanna think of it because if we go on war i tell you one thing my girlfriend will dump me and i love her too much lol ,,,,, What i wanted from india is treat Pakistan and indian muslims equely like Pakistan does her hindu citizens thats all and i am not as ignorant as you think i love india and matter of fact i am going to india hope fully next year to mombay india. Hope fully my body won't come dead back to USA. It would be scary if india decide to hand over my body at waga border.... ohh i dont even wanna think of it lol we don't have indian flag here so ill rise PEACE

 

[IceCold]

Dabong.

Fine India is stupid.

Start a war and be satisfied!

Apparently the kind of pathetic attitude that india is showing, we might actually have to see one. Satisfied or not only time will tell.

 

[HAIDER]

Is it ture, after postmortem doctors figured out organs are missing in Khalid body. So, it is very hard to determine the cause of death. His digestive track,kidney. lever etc are missing. Sound like he been poisoned or kept in extremely deadly condition with highly contaminated food or......

 

[pacifist]

The killing of innocent pakistani is condenmable. Pakistan released the spy Kashmir singh alive on humintarian basis but what they have done with the cricket fan......................really shameful , inhuman ................don,t have words to express my feelings.
Still we pakistanis have message of peace, because;

"THERE IS NO WAY TO PEACE; PEACE IS THE WAY".

The greatest thing in life is internal peace,

external peace and global peace!

Peace is the key ingredient to Happiness.

Peace within means peace without.

Without Peace, how can one be truly happy?

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

At least you admit that your govt did it on purpose....thats a good start.
Who said anything about starting a war..?

I don't.

You did not state that a war should start, but your grouse also did not give a solution. It merely built up a wall of frustration without relief. The only relief feasible for such concentrated grouse is to give vent to a obtaining a solution through force since there was no peace outlet impacting the grouse.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Apparently the kind of pathetic attitude that india is showing, we might actually have to see one. Satisfied or not only time will tell.

Good for you!

 

[dabong1]

I don't.

You did not state that a war should start, but your grouse also did not give a solution. It merely built up a wall of frustration without relief. The only relief feasible for such concentrated grouse is to give vent to a obtaining a solution through force since there was no peace outlet impacting the grouse.

What ru talking about..?
You want my solution....its simple.....we hand you a spy alive and well ,you do the same thing back.
Its really that simple.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

I am talking about what you are taking about.

 

[dabong1]

I am talking about what you are taking about.

Well done salim....dont answer the question...like a typical indian.

You asked me what should be done.

"You want my solution....its simple.....we hand you a spy alive and well ,you do the same thing back.
Its really that simple."

Can you give a simple reply...am i right or wrong..?

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Well done salim....dont answer the question...like a typical indian.

You asked me what should be done.

"You want my solution....its simple.....we hand you a spy alive and well ,you do the same thing back.
Its really that simple."

Can you give a simple reply...am i right or wrong..?

What to you expect an Indian to be?

A typical Pakistani?

If you have a spy, then hang him. Period.

What is so earth shaking about it to initiate an irrelevant debate?

 

[dabong1]

What to you expect an Indian to be?

A typical Pakistani?

If you have a spy, then hang him. Period.

What is so earth shaking about it to initiate an irrelevant debate?

I dont think you understand the qusetion i asked.

The guy was not hanged.....i am not asking what you think should have happened to mr singh .

After pakistan gave a spy to india..do you think india did the right thing by handing a dead body back......a simple yes or no will do.

I cant understand why all the indians on this forum find it so hard to answer this simple question.........has it something to with acknowledging a wrong...?
You may think it is an irrelevant debate but if the indians can not see that by handing the body of a tortured cricket fan in return for getting a self confessed spy released is not very good sign for what the future holds if true peace is to be achived.

When the govt of pakistan does something wrong in my opinion i will criticize it....nationalism to the extreme is no good for anyone.

 

[Mustapha]

Salaams,

So much for trust building...lol...


Allah Hafiz

 

[Goodperson]

I dont think you understand the qusetion i asked.

The guy was not hanged.....i am not asking what you think should have happened to mr singh .

After pakistan gave a spy to india..do you think india did the right thing by handing a dead body back......a simple yes or no will do.

I cant understand why all the indians on this forum find it so hard to answer this simple question.........has it something to with acknowledging a wrong...?
You may think it is an irrelevant debate but if the indians can not see that by handing the body of a tortured cricket fan in return for getting a self confessed spy released is not very good sign for what the future holds if true peace is to be achived.

When the govt of pakistan does something wrong in my opinion i will criticize it....nationalism to the extreme is no good for anyone.

Pakistan did not handover spy to India nor anyone had proved Kashmir singh was a spy. The issue arose after it was claimed in Media that Kashmir was a spy the comment which he denied who ever did this was for making Mountain of a mole.
Khalid did come to India on 4 day cricket visa however was overstaying for over a year and caught a year later he was not even in Police custody where police could have tortured him. Khalid was in Judicial custody and was being treated in AIIMS a premier institute in India.

 

[Goodperson]

Pakistan reluctant to take its people back locked in Punjab’s jails: Authority

JAGMOHAN SINGH
Monday, 10 March 2008

AMRITSAR: Pakistan Government is highly reluctant to take back Pak national internees lodged in the transit camp at Central jail Amritsar, inspite of the fact they have outlived their sentences awarded by the various Indian court of laws.

Some of Pakistani prisoners were languishing behind the Indian bars for the last more than one and half decade.

Talking to Punjab Newsline , Deputy Commissioner Amritsar, Kahan Singh Pannu said, "Section of media in Pakistan has started wrong propaganda about the Pakistan prisoner detained in Indian jails, particularly after the release of Indian Prisoner Kashmir Singh who spent nearly 35 years in the various jails of Pakistan".

Pannu said that Pakistan had alleged that Indian Government deliberately not releasing the Pak prisoners. Whereas, the facts were that Pakistan willfully punishing their people by not coming forward to accept them", said .Pannu.

Pannu said, " Out of Forty six Pak prisoners Fifteen Pakistani prisoners have been provided 'Councilor Access' by the officials of Pakistan Embassy from New Delhi long back, even all the formalities have been completed with regard to their release, since all the prisoners have completed their sentences. But unfortunately Pakistan is not ready to take them back, the reason best known to Pak Government".

Adding further Pannu said, "Union External Affair Ministry time and again has asked the Pakistan High Commission to do the needful for their Pakistani nationals so that they could return to Pakistan to join their families. But, here on this issue Pakistan has tight lipped".

Giving the detail of fifteen Pakistani prisoners who were provided Councilor Access by the official of Pak Embassy, Pannu said, "Abdul Sharif son of Gulam Ahmed resident of Dekhsabar Baluchistan, Pakistan was arrested in 1997. Altaf-ur-Rehman son of Mohhammad Adris resident 4-K-1, Nazimabad, Karachi Pakistan was arrested in 2002. Mohhmmad Aslam Khan son of Abdul Rehem resident of Musargabad Minamir Colony, Lahore was arrested in 2003. Akbar Ali son Rehmat Ali resident of Amar Sattu, Hariara, Lahore was arrested in 1995.

Gulzar Ahmed son of Jharru Khan resident of village Karole, Police Station Pannu Akal (Gotri), district Bahawalpur was arrested in 2006. Mohhammad Bilal son of Rehmat Ali resident of Gulnani Baghm, Police Station Gulshanm, district Karachi was arrested in 2005. Nadeem Sarwar son of Akras resident of Kasoor Rawerr at Lahore was arrested in 2005. Goonga Bola son of not known was arrested in 2003. Iqbal Saddique son of Mohhammad Siddique resident of Harkel, Gujjranwalla was arrested in 2004.

Mukhtar Ahmed son of khushu Mohhammad resident of Tarara, Police Station Khudian, Kasoor district of Lahore was arrested in 1990. Mossa Kazim son of Hammed Khan resident of resident of Krodhpag, Multan was arrested in 2003. Haran Rashid son of Sikandar Pal resident of Jarrial, The Master, and District Girgatm was arrested in 2002. Shah Niwaz son of Mohhammad Saddique resident of 35-2L, Police Station Shah District Okarra was arrested in 2005.

Pannu said," Indian Government has no problem for the repatriation of all the Pakistani prisoners lodged in Indian jail but Pakistan has to come forward to accept them. Freedom is the basic rights of all the Pakistan prisoners when they have already completed their sentences.

Now Pakistan Government giving them punishment by not coming forward to accept them.

Pannu said, "The interesting issue is that all the Pakistani nationals lodged in Amritsar jail are constantly in touch with their family members in Pakistan while exchanging letters by post on reciprocal basis. Moreover, Indian Jail Authority never stopped Pakistanis to receive or send letters on humanitarian ground".

"Family members of Pak prisoners are longing for their repatriation to Pakistan territory from India but Pakistan adopting dilly dallying, added Pannu.

Pannu also provided the details of Pak nationals internees lodged in the transit camp at Central jail Amritsar who were not provided councilor Access were Asgar son of Mohd Ali resident of Zaffarwal, Police station Flora, District Narowal was arrested in 2005, Shingar Ali son of Baba Hussain Ali resident of Juma, Police Station Central jail Hyderabad, District Dadu Riasat Singh was arrested in 2006.

Nakeeb-Ur-Rehman son of Safan Ijat resident of village Jandialam Gujranwala was arrested in 2006. Mohd Musleen son of Wahid Bakash resident of Mohalla Saki Town,near Jama Maszid, Police Station Sadar Dera Gazi Khan was arrested in 2005. Afzal son of Basir Mistry resident of Kot Ruldu, District Narowal was arrested in 2007. Javed Khan son of Blunad Shah resident of Chowk Khappa was arrested in 2006.

Abhi Saloom son of Mukthar Masih resident of Ghurki, Police Station Berki, Tehsil and Dsitrict Lahore was arrested in 1997. Khadam son of Salaudin Resident of Peta was arrested in 2007. Rammej Raja son of Abad Shah Noor Hussain resident of Shugubabd, District Abatababad was arrested in 2006. Faquir Hussain son of Roshan Din resident of Tarkhana, Tehsil Shakargarh, District Narowal was arrested in 2007.

Mohd. Aurangzeb son of Mohd Khan resident of Mandi Ahmedbad, Police Station Jalabad was arrested in 2005. AkbarAli son of Nawab Ali resident of Chuk Brahmana, Tehsil Pasru, District Sialkot was arrested in 2007. Loyaquat Ali son of Jalaldeen resident of Shahpur, Police Station Chung, District Kasoor was arrested in 2007.

Mohd. Abbas son of Suleman Khan resident of Guru Chak, Police Station Sabharh, District Sialkot was arrested in 2007. Aask son of Asmat Ullah was arrested in 2004. Mohd. Azmal son of Taz Gul resident of Jandmulla Samrath Mardana was arrested in 2005. Shakeel son of Babu Khan resident of Chitab near Lahoer was arrested in 2006.

Farzeena Sareen wife of Idria resident of Shekhupura Road, Shadra, Lahore was arrested in 2007. Mohd. Niam son of Mohd Sarwar Kahn resident of Manzoorpura Plot Thana Noorkot District Narowal was arrested in 2007. Goonga Bola not with proper address was arrested in 2007. Mohd Irfan son of Zir Khan resident of Pakostan was arrested in 30.7.2007 Asif sonof Mohd.

Asif resident of Lia Sher, Tehsil Sakargarh, Dsitric Narowal was arrested in 2007. Batru Bafru so Bakhu Ram resident of Mankot was arrested in 2006. Ahmed son of Sadiq resident of Mohalla Kagji Bazar, Allatown,Police Station Khamdar district Karachi was arrested in 2006.

Seema wife of Ahmed resident of Mohalla Kagji Bazar, Alla town, Police Station Khamdar district Karachi was arrested in 2006. Faosal Nazam son of Khadam resident of Sharkpur, Police Station Mohalla Khemgarhi, District Shekupura, Faislabad was arrested in 2006.

Noosar Ullah son of Dinullah resident of Jhabgarr Sangalkoti was arrested in January 2008. Zahir Abbas son of Mohd Safdar resident of Gali number 6 Mugalpura, Police Station Central Jail, Lahore was arrested in 2008.

Gulzar son of Malkaman resident of Babiani, District Mardana was arrested in January 2008. Maqbool Hussain son of Ayat Ullah resident of Kiyaqatabad near Kot Lakhpat district Lahore was arrested in February 8, 2008 and Mohd. Imran son of Mohd Anwar son of Batali, Police Station Sanali District Shekupura.

Pannu said that majority of Pak prisoners were arrested under the 3-34-20 Indian Passport Act and 14 Foreign Act except few under the Custom act.

PunjabNewsline.com - Pakistan reluctant to take its people back locked in Punjab’s jails: Authority

 

[IceCold]

Pakistan did not handover spy to India nor anyone had proved Kashmir singh was a spy. The issue arose after it was claimed in Media that Kashmir was a spy the comment which he denied who ever did this was for making Mountain of a mole.
Khalid did come to India on 4 day cricket visa however was overstaying for over a year and caught a year later he was not even in Police custody where police could have tortured him. Khalid was in Judicial custody and was being treated in AIIMS a premier institute in India.

Ohh please!! sell this BS story of yours somewhere else, Bharatrakhshak will be a good place to start with. Kashmir singh is not a spy, who are you trying to kid here.
ANd even if we agree to this that KHalid overstayed in india, there is a proper channel to handle the issue, you simply capture the guy and deport him and inform the pakistani authorties and he will simply be arrested here at the airport. You do not have the right to toture him in india just because he overstayed there and that too for two years name him a spy and then send his dead body back home just because the poor sole was a pakistani citizen. This is pathetic on part of india and what more pathetic is that people like you instead of condeming such acts, are actually justifing such acts. Its so shameful for such so called human rights watch organisations that none of them actually condemen the issue, no ******* one was even present there.