Top Ten Muslim Militaries

[Owais]

Originally posted by Kaiser@Dec 3 2005, 03:21 AM
Egypts and Turkeys army is no where near Pakistans. Egypt only has 400-500 M1 Abrams and 200 M-60s and a bunch of old tanks while Turkey only has old M-48,M-60. Compare this to Pakistan By 2006 Pakistan will have 600+ Al-Khalids, 600+ Al-Zarrars, 600 T-80-T84, and around 2000+ APC'S. Egypts Navy is nowhere near the Second Best in the Muslim world Iran and Bangladesh have a better navy. You also left out Missiles, Pakistan has the Best Missiles in the muslim world no one comes half as near to Pakistans missile capabilies in the Muslim world.

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Turkeys army is no where??
what the are u trying to say??
here is some info about Turkish militry.


THE TURKISH LAND FORCES :

LAND FORCES COMPOSITION IS

* 4 FIELD ARMIES

* 10 ARMY CORPS

* 2 MECH. INF. DIVISION

* 2 MECH. INF. DIV. HQs (TACTICAL)

* 1 INFANTRY DIVISIONS AND 1 TRAINING DIVISION

* 14 MECHANIZED INFANTRY BRIGADES

* 14 ARMORED BRIGADES

* 12 INFANTRY/REGIONAL SEC. BRIGADES

* 5 COMMANDO BRIGADES

* 5 TRAINING BRIGADES

THE TURKISH LAND FORCES IS ORGANIZED INTO FOUR FIELD ARMIES, LOGISTICS COMMAND AND TRAINING AND DOCTRINE COMMAND.

THE TURKISH NAVAL FORCES:

THE COMPOSITION OF THE NAVAL FORCES IS;

* 13 SUBMARINES

* 20 FRIGATES

* 21 FAST PATROL BOATS

* 21 MINE SWEEPERS / HUNTERS AND LAYERS

* 52 VARIOUS LANDING SHIPS / CRAFT

* 23 VARIOUS MARITIME PATROL AIRCRAFT / HELICOPTERS

* AMPHIBIOUS BRIGADE

SUBORDINATE COMMANDS OF THE TURKISH NAVAL FORCES COMMAND ARE THE FLEET COMMAND, THE NORTHERN SEA AREA COMMAND, THE SOUTHERN SEA AREA COMMAND AND THE NAVAL TRAINING AND EDUCATION COMMAND.

THE TURKISH AIR FORCES :

THE TURKISH AIR FORCES COMPONENTS ARE;

* 19 COMBAT SQUADRONS

* 2RECONNAISSANCESQUADRONS

* 5 TRAINING SQUADRONS

* 6 TRANSPORTATION SQUADRONS

* 1 TANKER SQUADRON

* 8 SURFACE TO AIR MISSILE (SAM) SQUADRONS

THESE UNITS ARE ORGANIZED INTO TWO TACTICAL AIR FORCES, TWO MAIN AIR LIFT BASES, TANKER BASE, AIR TRAINING AND AIR LOGISTICS COMMANDS.

TURKISH ARMED FORCES CAPABILITIES

At a short notice, Turkish Army can deploy 40 (forty) or 50.000 (fifty thousand) men strength Army Corps to conduct joint operations.

Turkish Army can conduct air assault operations with lift capability of 5 or 6 Battalions at a time day and night.

Turkish Armed Forces can conduct four separate Battalion Task Force Peace Support Operations anywhere in the wold.

Turkish Navy can participate in international operations and exercises beyond Mediterranean Sea. Submarines can individually navigate up to 15.000 (fifteen thousand) nautical miles and return to home bases.
After USA Air Forces, Turkish Air Forces have the most number of F-16 aircraft in the world. Turkish Air Forces can participate in exercises conducted overseas. With air refueling capability, Turkish aircraft can join live exercises in central Europe and return to home bases in Turkey, and fly directly from Turkey to USA crossing The Atlantic Ocean.

Turkish Armed Forces can perform Disaster Relief Operations as was in recent earthquakes in Marmara Region of Turkey.

Turkish Armed Forces can conduct peace support operations anywhere in the world with four separate Battalion Task Force.

Considering that Turkish Armed Forces might increasingly participate in peace support operations during the first quarter of the 21st Century, in order to increase contribution to global and regional peace and stability, the special importance to develop its current capabilities in this field is attributed.

http://www.tsk.mil.tr/eng/genel_konular/kuvvetyapisi.htm

 

[nollvllad]

1. Pakistan ... A nuclear power with a superb missile system.
2nd. Turkey ... due to the conventional weapons.
3rd. Iran.. due to its missile system and strong ground forces
4th. egypt... large military but not updated.. plus the lack missile system
5th. Saudi arabia...
6th. Syria.
7th. Bangladesh
8th. libya
9th. morocco
10th. Algeria

 

[Omar1984]

Pakistan is the only Muslim nation that is a nuclear power and has the strongest military in the Islamic world and we need that because Pakistan is in a rough neighborhood. We have a neighbor who hates our very existence and another neighbor who has to deal with wars for decades and invasions by superpowers.

Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and most of other Muslim countries are in a peaceful neighborhood and they dont need a strong military and nuclear weapons like Pakistan does.

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

1. Pakistan ... A nuclear power with a superb missile system.
2nd. Turkey ... due to the conventional weapons.
3rd. Iran.. due to its missile system and strong ground forces
4th. egypt... large military but not updated.. plus the lack missile system
5th. Saudi arabia...
6th. Syria.
7th. Bangladesh
8th. libya
9th. morocco
10th. Algeria

I concur with most, but you forgot Indonesia -- with a population of around 237 million, they should be well ahead of Turkey! Also, if you consider Malaysia 'muslim nation' then they should make top 10. Their economy and military is both strong. Add those 2 and remove Morocco and Syria from the list. Lybia is a very SMALL population, but still stronger than Syria and Morocco.

 

[xebex]

Greece was once super power, when. I think you're mixing up. Itz the turks were superpower like Mughals, or persia, turks were called Ottomans and their state used to be called ottoman kingdom.

Greek Empire


Turkish Empire( Ottoman Empire)

every major nation had its glorious time and some are comming back to its glory again.

 

[ahf_nuke1]

1) Pakistan (Nuclear Missile Technology)
2) Iran (Missile technology, self reliance in many weapons.. and potentially next Nuclear power too)
3) Turkey
4) Saudi arabia
5) Egypt
6) UAE
7) Kuwait
8) Syria
9) Libya
10) Morroco

 

[Musalman]

I say Turkish Generals, Pakistani Iranian Turkish Arab Soldiers, Saudi Equipments and Pakistani Iranian and Turkish military industry, we can rule the world.

 

[Musalman]

Sorry forgot to mention Pakistani Bangladesh and Turkish airforce pilots

 

[TopCat]

1) Pakistan (Nuclear Missile Technology)
2) Iran (Missile technology, self reliance in many weapons.. and potentially next Nuclear power too)
3) Turkey
4) Saudi arabia
5) Egypt
6) UAE
7) Kuwait
8) Syria
9) Libya
10) Morroco

Its not only the military strength rather willingness to fight a war for muslim cause. In that case you should not rule out Bangladesh. Bangladesh is far more involved than a lot of countries mentioned here.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Guys, kindly take out the gulf countries of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE out of this list, no matter how well are you equipped, if soldiers are not worth a fight you can't fight, and as per past experience & looking at these oil rich countries their armies can't fight. The lesser equipped Muslim armies may perform better then these 3.

In Top 3, Pakistan, Turkey & Iran would come because they are well equipped, better trained, war experienced & have to motivation, the will to fight.

Syria & Egypt & Jordan were good fighting armies but now don't seem to but they may have the courage & willingness to fight.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

UAE has got one hell of a air force,70 Mirage 2000-9s, 60 F-16Block 60s and 60 odd Rafales are coming and if i m not wrong they are also going for P-8I, CH-47C/D Chinook, AS.365N3 Dauphin II, AS.550C3 Fennec, Agusta Westland AW139, EC 155B1, AH-64A Apache, Cessna 208B Grand Caravan II & in missiles HARM missiles, AIM-120C, AIM-9M, Harpoons and MICA AAM, this is one hell of a air force considering size of UAE & once 60 odd Rafales come UAE air force can ROCK

 

[Durran3]

lol UAE's air-force isn't worth a tinker's dam, the Turkish, Iranian or Pakistani air force would crush them in minutes

 

[eastwatch]

it was ww1 not ww2 turkey didnot take part in 2 right?

by the way guys turkey won at constantinople(istanbul) in ww1 and it is still part of theirs and because of which turkey also have the acess to europe

By controlling lands around Constantinoples (Istambul), Turkey is partly europe. But, because Turkey controls both sides of Bosphorus Strait, this Strait is no more an international sea. Thus, Turkey controls the main sea route to Russia and other european countries in the east, and the Black Sea has become a Turkish lake in essence. Bosphorus is very strategically located.

 

[moha199]

I believe that this list is much positive.

1: Pakistan
Because of too much war experience with way bigger powers, Fought indirectly with Russia, USA in Afganistan through proxis, directly with India many times, Well trained and up to date, Airforce is getting better and self sufficient, War industry is getting self sufficient and in good numbers, One of the best missile technology, Fair Navel power, soilders are more emotionally charged because of, On and off conflicts, In the last, Armed forces are almost in excercise ever since it's existence. Armed forces are equiped with the best deterence in the world.

2: Turkey
One of the best army in Muslim and non muslim world, Prety good airforce, Navel is good as well, Armed forces are better protected, Pretty good history of conflicts and win ratio in wars. Over all best Muslim army.

3: Iran
Strong army, good missiles and maybe a Nuclear power. Well organized Muslim army under a stricte code, plus point to the country.

rest i won't say since, I don't have much information but Egypten Armed forces will be 4th for their history.

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

I thought this thread is top 10 muslim militaries, then why are indonesia and malaysia left out? You guys can't be serious to think these two countries can't beat many of those arab ones?