Top ten military powers?

[S-2]

"It should be noted however that Turkey does host a number of tactical nuclear weapons (B61) for NATO"

I served in the cold-war U.S. Army nuclear artillery. We maintained warhead detachments at special ammunition supply points in Turkey. There's little question but that we intended to "nuclearize" your conventional artillery should war have occurred with the Soviet Union.

 

[RiazHaq]

I found some interesting rankings of military strengths of various nations on globalfirepower.com.

Here are rankings:

1. USA
2. China
3. Russia
4. India
5. UK
6. France
7. Germany
8. Brazil
9. Japan
10. Turkey
11. Israel
12. South Korea
13. Italy
14. Indonesia
15. Pakistan
16. Taiwan
17. Egypt
18. Iran
19. Mexico
20. North Korea


Haq's Musings: India-Pakistan Military Balance

Haq's Musings: Assessing Pakistan Army's Capabilities

 

[FreekiN]

Nukes aside:

00 - Nature
01 - United States
02 - Russia
03 - China
04 - Britain
05 - France
06 - India
07 - Pakistan
08 - Israel - a lil more a lil less depends
09 - North Korea
10 - South Korea
11 - Iran
12 - Turkey
13 - Saudi Arabia
14 - Egypt
15 - Vietnam
16 - Brazil
17 - Iraq - pre-2003

 

[JoshPaul]

I would like your opinion on my choices.

1. USA
2. China
3. UK
4. Russia
5. France
6. Germany
7. Turkey
8. India
9. Pakistan
10. Italy

Edit: I realize Russia is above UK now.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

USA
China
russia
india
Pakistan
E.U including turkey
saudis
israel
North Korea
indonesians
E.U countries dont have the capacity to attack countries like india or pakistan alone?

 

[JoshPaul]

Off course they do. Uk and France are both Nuclear Capable and are in the top five military spenders. UK, France, Germany and even Italy could take on Pakistan Israel can not project her power and is purley defensive and Indonesia is only an Economic Power.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

josh with an army of no hardly 10000 and fewer then 500 tanks are u serious?

 

[BlackenTheSky]

i think pakistan is the best.not patriotically but see US cant fight on mountains whereas pakistan have flushed their enemies on mountain areas,similar enemies to US which he couldnt defeat in 8 years so far.

 

[Conqueror]

i think pakistan is the best.not patriotically but see US cant fight on mountains whereas pakistan have flushed their enemies on mountain areas,similar enemies to US which he couldnt defeat in 8 years so far.

Pakistan is a jewel in the crown and God has set this country to perform a role. We are still existing in spite of world-powers want to see this land broken into 5+ pieces and no matter how weak we are, we are still very good in defending this territory from full blown attacks.

Pakistan will exist and will flourish because the "jobs" that we are to do are huge.

In my listing

USA
Russia
China
England
Germany
France
India
Japan
Turkey
Korea
Pakistan
KSA
Israel
Iran

 

[JoshPaul]

The UK army has over 150,000 soilders, 114,000 when not counting the TA, France has 225,000 men Germany 250,000 and Italy 240,000. The SAS is the best trained military force in the world and the british soilder is the best trained in the world, which is why most nations in NATO send their officers to Sandhurst to train. The UK spends 63 Billion and is expected to put in 20 Billion more in 2010 giving them the second highest military budget. France spends slightly more than britain. Germany spends 45 Billion and Italy spends 42 Billion. Compared to Indias 32 Billion and Pakistans 4 Billion. And no European Nation has only 500 Tanks, minus Micronations. In all honesty your knowledge of European Military leaves allot to be desired. Pakistan are nothing compared to the European Powers and neither is India. And Britain has, at the VERY least, 4000 tanks in service and almost surley more.

 

[JoshPaul]

Pakistan is a jewel in the crown and God has set this country to perform a role. We are still existing in spite of world-powers want to see this land broken into 5+ pieces and no matter how weak we are, we are still very good in defending this territory from full blown attacks.

Pakistan will exist and will flourish because the "jobs" that we are to do are huge.

In my listing

USA
Russia
China
England
Germany
France
India
Japan
Turkey
Korea
Pakistan
KSA
Israel
Iran

I agree with your list for the most part though would change England to Britain. I would put France above of Germany as they spend more on their military and have Nuclear Capabilities. China above Russia due to thier numbers. Your statments about Pakistan is very true and although you only spend 4 Billion on your military, 31st out of the world, few would dare invade.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Josh can UK take on PAKISTAN militarily alone without NATOs support?
Can israel?
Japan?Germany?turkey?KOREA with malnourished soldiers which trades weapons for its sole survival NO OFFENCE?
You guys can barely win from RAG TAG taliban who litteral have a AK 47 and a shawl to wear in freezing weather do you think you can take on an nuclear armed country with an army of more then Half a MILLION soldiers rich with battle experience?

 

[JoshPaul]

Yes, without a shadow of a doubt. Number are nothing the British Soilder goes through more training than any other. The Pakistanit Military spends less than most European Nations. Britain has more and better Nuclear Weapons, State of the art technology in all fields and the second highest ability to project power after the USA Army. Compared to UK,USA,FRANCE,GERMANY,RUSSIA,CHINA,TURKEY and many others Pakistan is nothing. It has a terrible Economy and any 1st world nation could destroy it. Britain could destroy it with a simple Nuclear Missle Launch, not one missle obviously, Pakistan has poverty problems and all in all Britain has the best trained soilders in the world.

 

[BrahmaChellaney]

The UK army has over 150,000 soilders, 114,000 when not counting the TA, France has 225,000 men Germany 250,000 and Italy 240,000.

Josh, the numbers are pathetic when compared to that of India or Paksitan.

We are discussing whether these countries alone can engage Pakistan or India.

 

[Ruag]

If we consider only conventional capability (i.e. ignore the nuclear arsenal), then the top 10 list would be as followed -

1) United States
2) Russia
3) China
4) India
5) Germany
6) United Kingdom
7) France
8) Pakistan
9) Israel
10) Spain

Fact remains that almost all major powers either have nuclear weapons or enjoy protection under NATO nuclear weapons sharing program. Therefore, if any of the nations listed above go to war with each other, then use of nuclear weapons by either one of them will most certainly result in mutually assured destruction. Therefore, it is pointless to consider a country's nuclear weapons stockpile while compiling the top 10 list.