Top ten military powers?

[malikmohsin]

plz type your thread
this is not a war pakistan or iran
both are good friend
bath pakistan is nuclear power
and pakistan army ,airforce and navy are trained

 

[Astra]

In the 21st century war is going to be short and lethal, so firepower matters more than manpower. The old way of capturing territory is not going to happen anymore. In this sense Iran is more than a match for Pakistan.

 

[Majnun]

This can't be done, but this is it in my opinion.

Turkey
China
Israel
Russia
Pakistan
USA
UK
India
Germany
North Korea

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

In the 21st century war is going to be short and lethal, so firepower matters more than manpower. The old way of capturing territory is not going to happen anymore. In this sense Iran is more than a match for Pakistan.

And having devastated an area, what next?

"When it was victory, the cavalier claimed it outright, the gunner boasted of his calibre, the engineer and signalman publicised their worth, but the infantryman stood silent with victory at his feet."

Unless you physically hold ground, it is no win!

 

[peacelover]

In my opinion -
US
Russia
UK
China
France
Germany
India
Israel
Japan
Few of them after this list but insignificant on world stage…

Pakistan is no where... How can a country's Armed forces become powerful if economy it self depends upon the donation of west. Country is facing regular turmoil from last 60 years, most of world considering her on verge of failed state. Power is highly interlinked to many thing stated above. Pakistan even does not have money to mobilize its armed forces, becoming a POWER in world stage is dream.

First do some thing to change the world's perception about Pakistan. Racists in west use P-AKI as abuse for brown coloured people from south east asia.

 

[Plasma]

Please do explain how we are surviving on donations?

 

[Astra]

And having devastated an area, what next?

"When it was victory, the cavalier claimed it outright, the gunner boasted of his calibre, the engineer and signalman publicised their worth, but the infantryman stood silent with victory at his feet."

Unless you physically hold ground, it is no win!

I agree with you, its the soldier with victory under his boots and its him who hosts the flag in the enemy territory.

But, do you think India wants to capture and occupy Islamabad or does china want to capture New delhi. Those days are gone, in modern/full scale warfare the militaries prefer to destroy strategic military and economic targets to cripple the enemy. Yes, if its border dispute, the infantery plays the major role.

 

[Astra]

Please do explain how we are surviving on donations?

1. That was not for Canada, it was for Pakistan.
2. 25% of defence budget in Pakistan comes from the US.

Do you want me to prove this? I can give you many authentic links. But, I suggest you do some internet search.

 

[mujahideen]

In the 21st century war is going to be short and lethal, so firepower matters more than manpower. The old way of capturing territory is not going to happen anymore. In this sense Iran is more than a match for Pakistan.

You have said it here that the old ways are not going to work. So Pakistan will win in the short and long run. All it needs are its nuclear weapons and the war is likely to be over.

 

[peacelover]

Please do explain how we are surviving on donations?

I think Astra has answered your question. Most of the Pakistan Defence budget, loans re-payment getting through money coming on the name of war of terror. Its known fact. Massive number of articles are ready to read on internet.
Military power is always backed by Polical, Economical Power and internal stability, you know what is happening at all three fronts in Pakistan.
Number of personnel in Armed forces does not create Power these days, as I sayed earlier many things are interlinked.

And may I know what industries you have Mango export ???? No no cotton too, thanks to Land of Pakistan which can produce it. And what about terror, still not official and taxed by Pakistan Gov.

Though personally I want to see pakistan a progressive, stable nation because in tomorrow's world single strong country is not going to play major role, rather a strong region may become very powerful and effective as you can see Europe, then both India and Pakistan should be stronger country. And we have started seeing this in many area where Pakistan and India has worked together Cricket matters, and few import and export fronts.

And please do some thing to change the world's perception of Pakistan it will attract FDI.

Good Luck.

 

[peacelover]

You have said it here that the old ways are not going to work. So Pakistan will win in the short and long run. All it needs are its nuclear weapons and the war is likely to be over.

Every day I read news about sucide bombing, unfortunatly they are using Pakistani teenager also.

Safegaurd your NW else some day they can use against you only.

Understand the true meaning of Military power, Gun without bullet is meaning less, this is situation of Pakistan, hope you will understant wholistic meaning of Bullet else you will say there are factories in Pakistan to produce Bullet.

 

[EagleEyes]

1. That was not for Canada, it was for Pakistan.
2. 25% of defence budget in Pakistan comes from the US.

Do you want me to prove this? I can give you many authentic links. But, I suggest you do some internet search.

Please provide your source with authentic sources that proclaim 25% of defence budget comes from the U.S. Firstly, you dont even know how much Pakistan spends per year or for that matter it spent in 2007.

Even if you claim that 25% of aid comes from the U.S. it doesn't prove anything. Pakistan is in much better position to spend more on defence than it ever was.

So assuming that Pakistan isn't in the position to keep up with its defence budget without the U.S support is childish and folly patriotism in your Indian mind.

 

[peacelover]

Please provide your source with authentic sources that proclaim 25% of defence budget comes from the U.S. Firstly, you dont even know how much Pakistan spends per year or for that matter it spent in 2007.

Find some link below -
Note: All links talks about civilian aids and not military. Though after war of terror Pakistan getting huge amout of money and utilizing for its own military and debt re-payment.

http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/APCITY/UNPAN027099.pdf
This is study done by Ghulam Mohey-ud-din from Pakistan itself -

A Quote from there -
"In case of Pakistan, the foreign aid is a major form of the foreign capital
inflow and has a significant role for the country’s economic development. The
trends and the patterns have shown that the FDI, portfolio investment and
borrowing through private sources have also increased sharply. But Pakistan
is still unable to attract such FCIs. Pakistan lacks physical, financial & human
capital as well as political & macroeconomic stability. So, it has to rely on
foreign aid or foreign debt."

The Political Economy of US Aid to Pakistan

By Mumtaz Anwar, Katharina Michaelowa

Who says -
"Pakistan belongs to the developing countries most heavily depending on foreign aid after independence."

Do some thing and stop abusing neighbor, it creates wrong preception for FDI.

 

[Janbaz]

Just tell me in which area Pakistan top to Iran. I think it will be the Nukes other then that there is nothing anything you can bring to outperform Iran.

Ok...
For one they are too reliant on their self made, un proven jets like Azerkash, Saegeh and Shafaq which is claimed to be "stealth".
The second reason is the fact that after their war with Iraq they have made few new inductions whether it be of jets or anything else.
Check out American analysis of their military on The Situation Room if you please...They rightly claim the Irainian military is badly trained and equipped and not a major player as it claims it is.

 

[EagleEyes]

Find some link below -
Note: All links talks about civilian aids and not military. Though after war of terror Pakistan getting huge amout of money and utilizing for its own military and debt re-payment.

http://unpan1.un.org/intradoc/groups/public/documents/APCITY/UNPAN027099.pdf
This is study done by Ghulam Mohey-ud-din from Pakistan itself -

A Quote from there -
"In case of Pakistan, the foreign aid is a major form of the foreign capital
inflow and has a significant role for the country’s economic development. The
trends and the patterns have shown that the FDI, portfolio investment and
borrowing through private sources have also increased sharply. But Pakistan
is still unable to attract such FCIs. Pakistan lacks physical, financial & human
capital as well as political & macroeconomic stability. So, it has to rely on
foreign aid or foreign debt."

The Political Economy of US Aid to Pakistan

By Mumtaz Anwar, Katharina Michaelowa

Who says -
"Pakistan belongs to the developing countries most heavily depending on foreign aid after independence."

Do some thing and stop abusing neighbor, it creates wrong preception for FDI.

Your sources were unable to prove your comments and neither did you reply to my second part of my post. I dont mean to abuse you anyway, but i dont like your information about Pakistan which is obvious enough to be absolutely inaccurate.