Top One Percent: Are Hindus the New Jews in America?

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List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

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List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

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Asian Americans[edit]​

In the 2021 American Community Survey, the following figures regarding detailed Asian ethnicities are reported.[3]

S0201: ACS 1-Year Estimates Selected Population Profiles (2021)

Code	Population	Median household income (US$)	Code	Population	Median household income (US$)
Detailed Race	Alone	Alone or in Combination with Other Races
Indian	013​	4,402,223​	141,906​	032​	4,797,210​	138,418​
Taiwanese	018​	257,430​	119,022​	037​	310,503​	117,652​
Filipino	019​	2,960,811​	101,157​	038​	4,426,904​	96,883​
Pakistani	026​	555,917​	100,730​	045​	629,946​	95,747​
Sri Lankan	027​	72,271​	96,790​	046​	86,690​	94,034​
Chinese	017​	4,360,466 ​	93,007​	036​	5,549,293​	93,431​
Japanese	022​	742,549​	87,789​	041​	1,636,634​	90,566​
Indonesian	021​	85,957​	87,377​	040​	161,807​	86,751​
Korean	023​	1,445,315​	82,946​	042​	1,962,184​	83,354​
Hmong	020​	345,338​	80,702​	039​	368,609​	80,175​
Thai	028​	180,364​	78,616​	047​	319,617​	78,434​
Nepalese	076​	217,150​	78,375​	084​	229,325​	78,043​
Vietnamese	029​	1,896,690​	77,884​	048​	2,288,082​	78,845​
Laotian	024​	181,458​	75,241​	043​	248,920​	76,962​
Cambodian	015​	272,408​	73,819​	034​	369,562​	75,424​
Bangladeshi	014​	245,131​	67,187​	033​	261,885​	66,641​
Burmese	073​	233,347​	60,376​	081​	248,822​	62,352​

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Rich, successful intelligent Jews have made Israel a powerful, developed nation that invents many advanced sciences and technologies. Israel is a virtual superpower. When did indians do the same thing for india?

List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

we have new list by Wikipedia as above.
here we find Indian and Pakistanis are the top 2 in the list.
but how Israelis/Jews have become so poor? what happened to them since recession?

 

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Rich, successful intelligent Jews have made Israel a powerful, developed nation that invents many advanced sciences and technologies. Israel is a virtual superpower. When did indians do the same thing for india?

we find Chinese population there are now lesser than Indians in US, in my last post#76
whats the number of Jews in US now? do we have any reference in regard of current population of Jews in US.

 

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How Indian Americans Came to Love the Spelling Bee

Since 2008, a South Asian American child has been named a champion at every Scripps National Spelling Bee.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/03/style/spelling-bee-south-asian-americans.html

When statistical adjustments are used to convert the backward digit span results to full-scale IQ scores, Indian Americans place at about 112 on a bell-shaped IQ distribution, with white Americans at 100. 112 is the 79th percentile of the white distribution. For more context, consider that Ashkenazi Jews are a famously intelligent ethnic group, and their mean IQ is somewhere around 110.

There is nothing inevitable about immigration. Who immigrates each year is a policy decision, free to be modified at any time by Congress. Constructing new legislation is always difficult, but I propose a simple starting point for immigration selection: Anyone who can spell guerdon is in!

Jason Richwine is a National Research Initiative fellow at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington.

Indian Americans: The New Model Minority (forbes.com)
Indian Americans: The New Model Minority (forbes.com)

Indian MBA students world’s most academically distinguished

BANGALORE: It is students from IIM-Bangalore, not from Harvard or Stanford or even MIT, who excel at GMAT, the entrance test for the creme de la creme of B-schools across the world.

According to the QS Global 200 Business Schools report, Indian MBA candidates are the world's most academically distinguished, with students of the IIM-B, scoring the highest average of 780.

IIM-B students are ahead of the leading US institution Stanford and INSEAD in Europe, the survey said.

While the average GMAT score of Stanford is 730, INSEAD lies at 704. Second to IIM-B students in GMAT score are their counterparts from IIM, Ahmedabad with 767.

The survey says, "IIM Ahmedabad is notable for the extraordinarily high average GMAT scores of its students, with its figure of 767 exceeded only by fellow Indian institution, IIM Bangalore (780). This places the two ahead of any North American or European school for the academic quality of their student intake. The fact that students enrolled at both schools have an average of just two years of professional experience underlines the tendency for academically gifted students to move quickly on to the MBA qualification at the outset of their careers, rather than using it to up-skill at mid career, as is more common in Europe and North America."

IIM-B also appears in the survey as one of the emerging global business schools across the world, overtaking Melbourne Business School.

"It is the testimony to high quality talent that our country has. It is no surprise that Indian students have outscored others from across the globe.What is needed now is the establishment of premier institutes like Harvard and Stanford in India as well, so that these young minds could express their intelligence in best possible manner. This is possible only when full autonomy is provided to the universities," said T V Mohandas Pai, chairman, Manipal Global Education Services.

"At the time of independence, our universities at Mumbai, Chennai, Calcutta, Mysore and Baroda were among the top 200 in the world. Today, they do not fare in any ranking at all. This is the result of bad government policy. Full autonomy, independent board of governors and focus on research are the factors crucial for a good university," said Pai.

The colleges were also judged on different subjects under their programme. In corporate social responsibility, IIM-B ranked 21 among the top 50 business colleges across the globe, whereas IIM-A grabbed 19th rank.

When it comes to emphasis on start-ups and small businesses to kick-start private sector growth ( entrepreneurship), IIM-B ranked 25 and IIM-A ranked 17. Under 'innovation', IIM-B was placed at 17th with a score of 90.6, whereas IIM-A ranked 13, with a score of 97.4 out of 100.

QS is an online and offline meeting place for aspiring managers, B-schools and businesses for career and educational -related decisions.

Many leaders in India

For the leadership development programme, four colleges from India feature among top 50 universities. They are: IIM-A, IIM-B, IIM-C and Indian School of Business (ISB).

Highlights of the survey

Schools ranked for employer reputation in 10 subject specializations. Harvard tops the table in three subjects, ahead of Stanford and MIT with two apiece. Wharton is number one for finance

Three Asian schools make the Elite global category: INSEAD Singapore, IIM-A and NUS Business School, National University of Singapore

No Elite Global schools in either Africa and Middle East, or Latin America

Indian MBA students world’s most academically distinguished: Survey - Times of India

News News: It is students from IIM-Bangalore, not from Harvard or Stanford or MIT, who excel at GMAT, the entrance test for the crème de la crème of B-schools ac

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

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How Indian Americans Came to Love the Spelling Bee

Since 2008, a South Asian American child has been named a champion at every Scripps National Spelling Bee.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/03/style/spelling-bee-south-asian-americans.html

what you guess, what would be the ratio of Foreign students/Asians in the GMAT - GRE scores of Western institutes, my last post

 

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Indians pip Russians to become wealthiest landlords in Mayfair

Indians have overtaken Russians to become the wealthiest landlords in Britain’s most expensive commercial district — Mayfair in London. Indian purchasers are now the largest group of overseas buyers in Mayfair comprising 25% of all purchasers and well ahead of other Asian and European buyers (19% of all purchasers) and Russians and Middle Eastern buyers who now comprise just 13% each. Indian billionaires have invested as much as £881million ($1.5 billon) in central London properties in past 18 months.

LONDON: Indians have overtaken Russians to become the wealthiest landlords in Britain’s most expensive commercial district — Mayfair in London. Indian purchasers are now the largest group of overseas buyers in Mayfair comprising 25% of all purchasers and well ahead of other Asian and European buyers (19% of all purchasers) and Russians and Middle Eastern buyers who now comprise just 13% each. Indian billionaires have invested as much as £881million ($1.5 billon) in central London properties in past 18 months.
Up to £440 million ($750m) was spent between wealthy home owners across 221 capital homes in 2013 with Mayfair and Belgravia being the most popular locations. Renowned Mayfair estate agency Wetherell estimate that at the height of each British summer some 3,000 ultra-high net worth (UHNW) Indian families make Mayfair their address, living in London homes, renting property or staying in luxury hotels.

Indians pip Russians to become wealthiest landlords in Mayfair - Times of India (indiatimes.com)

 

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https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...a-rich-club/story-KOI12qa5om04gc2lT5WyLM.html

Super-rich Indians account for more than 20% of the wealth of ultra-high net worth (UHNW) individuals in Britain, a new list showed on Tuesday. As a national group, they are second only to expat Russians.

 

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Why Indian Americans are not the new Jews by Razib Khan

Why Indian Americans are not the new Jews – Brown Pundits

www.brownpundits.com

Indians are not nearly as culturally coherent and cohesive as Jews. Genetically, Ashkenazi Jewish genealogies tend to coalesce 500-1,000 years ago. Indian genealogies for different communities coalesce 2 to 4 thousand years ago. Jewish Americans arrived in the United States with a common language, Yiddish. Only the more assimilated Jews were only fluent in the national vernacular. Indian Americans share one language, English, which is the same as that of the nation to which they migrated. The overwhelming majority of Jewish Americans in the 20th century remained Jewish if they were religious. A minority of Indian Americans are Muslim or Christian, and even among Hindus religion and caste distinctions are important enough there are North Indian and South Indian temples. Sikhs are overrepresented amongst the migrants. Jewish Americans tended to create their common American culture in a few large urban areas, in particular New York City. Though Edison and Cupertino have large Indian communities, the size and concentration of these communities are not analogous to Jews in terms of magnitude.

In short, Indian Americans don’t have what it takes to create a coherent catchall ethnic group similar to Amerian Jews except for the fact that outsiders perceive themselves as a singular group. I don’t think that “push” is ultimately that strong.

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‘Indian-Americans are taking over the country’: Joe Biden at NASA meet

US President Joe Biden lauded the contributions of Indian Americans during a conversation with NASA scientists who were involved in the historic landing of Perseverance landing at Mars. ‘Indian- Americans are taking over the country. You (Swati Mohan), my Vice President (Kamala Harris), my speech writer,’ Joe Biden said. Indian-American scientist Swati Mohan leads the guidance, navigation, and control operations of NASA's Mars 2020 mission. The President further added that the achievement of the team was exemplary and thanked them for instilling a dose of confidence in the American people. Watch the full video for all the details.

America’s Wealthiest Religions?

osted by Sundari in General, USA on 02 25th, 2010 | 14 responses
An interesting infographic circulating the Web has many people talking about the relationship between wealth and religion. The graphic, titled The Almighty Dollar, was created by GOOD and Column Five Media and breaks down income levels in the U.S. by religion. Data is based on information from the Pew Forum and it compares the income level of each religion to the national average. From the website: It’s no secret that the distribution of wealth is inequitable in the United States across racial, regional, and socio-economic groups. But there is a distinct variance among and within America’s faiths as well.

If you click on the image above, it will enlarge and you’ll see information broken down by several religious groups such as Jewish, Christian (divided into several groups), Buddhist, Mormon, Muslim etc. You’ll notice that Sikhism is not one of them (not sure why?). There are five income brackets (Less than $30,000 to $100,000+) listed and numbers signifying what percentage of each religious group falling into which income bracket.

43% and 46% of Hindus and Jews, respectively, fell into the $100,000+ income bracket while 8% and 9% of Christians (Historically Black Churches) and Jehovah’s Witnesses, respectively, fell into this same income bracket. Interestingly, Buddhists look to have the most equal distribution for each income bracket.

Many conversations on the internet have focused on the idea that immigrants make up a large portion of religious groups such as Hindus and Muslims. This is probably quite true. Individuals from these groups who are in the United States today, are probably more educated. The representation of these groups in this data sample is highly selective. Wealth is therefore probably more related to education rather than religion.

Other conversations suggest that those religious groups who have the lowest percentage in the $100,000+ also give the most money to their place of worship.

Having said that, what religious group’s distribution would Sikhs most likely follow? How would those individuals, who identify as Sikhs, be represented on this infographic?

America’s Wealthiest Religions? | The Langar Hall

 

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With a population of more than 4.4 million, Indian Americans make up approximately 1.35% of the U.S. population and are the largest group of South Asian Americans, the largest Asian-alone group[13], and the largest group of Asian Americans after Chinese Americans. Indian Americans are the highest-earning ethnic group in the United States

Indian Americans - Wikipedia

 

[ST1976]

Indians pip Russians to become wealthiest landlords in Mayfair

Indians have overtaken Russians to become the wealthiest landlords in Britain’s most expensive commercial district — Mayfair in London. Indian purchasers are now the largest group of overseas buyers in Mayfair comprising 25% of all purchasers and well ahead of other Asian and European buyers (19% of all purchasers) and Russians and Middle Eastern buyers who now comprise just 13% each. Indian billionaires have invested as much as £881million ($1.5 billon) in central London properties in past 18 months.

LONDON: Indians have overtaken Russians to become the wealthiest landlords in Britain’s most expensive commercial district — Mayfair in London. Indian purchasers are now the largest group of overseas buyers in Mayfair comprising 25% of all purchasers and well ahead of other Asian and European buyers (19% of all purchasers) and Russians and Middle Eastern buyers who now comprise just 13% each. Indian billionaires have invested as much as £881million ($1.5 billon) in central London properties in past 18 months.
Up to £440 million ($750m) was spent between wealthy home owners across 221 capital homes in 2013 with Mayfair and Belgravia being the most popular locations. Renowned Mayfair estate agency Wetherell estimate that at the height of each British summer some 3,000 ultra-high net worth (UHNW) Indian families make Mayfair their address, living in London homes, renting property or staying in luxury hotels.

Indians pip Russians to become wealthiest landlords in Mayfair - Times of India (indiatimes.com)

I love studies like this. Back in the 1990s they said that Chinese were a model minority too. Indians already have experience with this sort of fake praise like the whole concept of "martial races" but apparently they keep falling for it.

I hope Indians fully believe their own hype.

Do you mean to say that US gives issues based on who is Brahmin and who isn't?

Indian people have first mover advantage. Also people in Fiji, Guyana and other british colonial empire were mostly slave labour.

whats would be the ratio of British themselves in their ultra-high net worth (UHNW) list? Indians are second to Russians at 20%, with other Chinese-Asians ect?
this way, how much share left for British in their UHNW?
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=> Super-rich Indians account for more than 20% of the wealth of ultra-high net worth (UHNW) individuals in Britain, a new list showed on Tuesday. As a national group, they are second only to expat Russians.

Indians account for 22% of Britain’s ultra-rich club

The list, published by the Singapore-based Wealth-X group, places steel magnate and ArcelorMittal chairman Lakshmi Mittal at second place with a fortune of $15.8 billion. Dipankar De Sarkar reports. Desi net worth

www.hindustantimes.com

 

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Why Indian Americans are not the new Jews by Razib Khan

Why Indian Americans are not the new Jews – Brown Pundits

www.brownpundits.com

Indians are not nearly as culturally coherent and cohesive as Jews. Genetically, Ashkenazi Jewish genealogies tend to coalesce 500-1,000 years ago. Indian genealogies for different communities coalesce 2 to 4 thousand years ago. Jewish Americans arrived in the United States with a common language, Yiddish. Only the more assimilated Jews were only fluent in the national vernacular. Indian Americans share one language, English, which is the same as that of the nation to which they migrated. The overwhelming majority of Jewish Americans in the 20th century remained Jewish if they were religious. A minority of Indian Americans are Muslim or Christian, and even among Hindus religion and caste distinctions are important enough there are North Indian and South Indian temples. Sikhs are overrepresented amongst the migrants. Jewish Americans tended to create their common American culture in a few large urban areas, in particular New York City. Though Edison and Cupertino have large Indian communities, the size and concentration of these communities are not analogous to Jews in terms of magnitude.

In short, Indian Americans don’t have what it takes to create a coherent catchall ethnic group similar to Amerian Jews except for the fact that outsiders perceive themselves as a singular group. I don’t think that “push” is ultimately that strong.

The whole comparison is superficial

There are too many differences between Jewish and Indian immigration. there is more connectivity now. there is less discrimination in American society. It is easier for Indian immigrants to advance. Jews were denied admission to elite institutions. The Indian immigrants are better educated and working knowledge of English. Given the current trajectory there might be more Indian immigrants into USA than there are Jewish people. The big disadvantage is that Indian immigrants are brown skinned in a white society.

The technological changes, competition from immigrants & Asian-Americans reduces Jewish-American footprint in academia, politics, finance and media. There are some wealthy Jewish billionaires who are willing to finance pro-Israel political interests in Congress. There are enough people on the left and right who do not care for Israel.

If the Holocaust had not happened Jews would be happily anonymous in America.

 

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The Hindus in America are the cream of the crop. They are not typical Hindus in India.

Devesh Kapur, a professor of political science at the University of Pennsylvania and co-author of The Other One Percent: Indians in America (Oxford University Press, 2017), explains the phenomenon of high-achieving Indian-Americans as follows: “What we learned in researching this book is that Indians in America did not resemble any other population anywhere; not the Indian population in India, nor the native population in the United States, nor any other immigrant group from any other nation.”


Devesh talks about what he calls “a triple selection” process that gave Indian-Americans a boost over typically poor and uneducated immigrants who come to the United States from other countries. The first two selections took place in India. As explained in the book: “The social system created a small pool of persons to receive higher education, who were urban, educated, and from high/dominant castes.” India’s examination system then selected individuals for specialized training in technical fields that also happened to be in demand in the United States. Kapur estimated that the India-American population is nine times more educated than individuals in the home country.

Top One Percent: Are Hindus the New Jews in America?

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Brain drain category people visited USA from India. its hard to get a visa of US and they proved.
here we find a news as below, whats current Household Income level of Israelis/Jewish in US? what happened to them since recession?

List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

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The social system created a small pool of persons to receive higher education, who were urban, educated, and from high/dominant castes.”

It is true majority urban dominant castes going abroad. But they still had to ace the entrance exams to get into top Indian universities like IIts and IIMs. It is sheer hard work, ethics and modicum of grey matter is needed to ace these exams. It is the top creme who make it. After completing their bachelor degree they go for US higher education. Anyone can follow their trajectory for getting high income jobs. In fact most immigrants on student visas follow this route to get into US.
Others like Gujjus and Punjabis succeed in businesses like convenience stores, motels, and gas stations.

 

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In other words, a small, miniscule minority from a population of over 1.4 billion doing well. That's all. Nothing else.

It is a small minority but is growing in increments.
I recently met my old accountant who retired after working for us for 30 years. His mode of transportation was a rickety bicycle because he would spend most of his money on his wife's chronic illness. But he never compromised on his son's education. His only son and daughter-in-law both work in US as IT professionals. Now he can afford a full-time nurse for his wife. His only regret is that he can't travel to see his son because of his wife.

He doesn't fit the stereotype of a rich, urban, and educated upper class. There are many cases like him who don't fit the stereotype.

 

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India Has Undercounted Covid-19 Deaths by Hundreds of Thousands, particularly among #India’s vast population of #rural poor, who have little access to #healthcare or #COVID19 testing. #Modi #YogiAdityanath #BJP #Hindutva https://www.wsj.com/articles/india-...ywbb7svooew7y&reflink=desktopwebshare_twitter via @WSJ

According to statisticians, the official death count of 390,000 falls far short of the pandemic’s actual toll

As coronavirus cases rose rapidly across India in April, a 70-year-old woman died at her home in the eastern state of Bihar. A rapid antigen test for Covid-19 had been positive, and a lung scan had indicated viral pneumonia and the “possibility of Covid infection.”

But Shila Singh’s death hasn’t been counted among India’s Covid-19 toll.

The institute (for Health Metrics & Evaluation) modeling suggests the true Covid-19 death toll in India exceeds 1.1 million, close to three times the reported number. Dr. Murray estimates the scale of the undercount is similar to those in some countries in Latin America or Africa. He said the institute estimates India has detected only about 3% to 5% of all infections due to insufficient testing.

Murad Banaji, a mathematician at the Middlesex University in London who has been tracking the pandemic in India, estimates the country’s real death toll could be around five times the reported figure, based partly on mortality and serosurvey data, which shows the presence of antibodies in the population.

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India has officially recorded more than 390,000 coronavirus deaths, but families who have lost loved ones, health experts and statisticians say that vastly undercounts the true toll. Families like Mrs. Singh’s have been left struggling to get compensation that some states have set up for Covid-19 victims.

India’s undercount has also left a huge gap in the world’s understanding of the impact of the Delta variant, which health experts believe helped drive one of the world’s worst Covid-19 surges in April and May. India was the first to detect the highly infectious variant, which has hopscotched around the world. It is fueling a surge in the U.K., and is expected to become the dominant variant in the U.S.

An accurate count of Covid-19 infections and deaths is “a very important part of understanding how big a threat new variants are,” said Christopher Murray, director of the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation.

why are you trolling your thread??? I guess old habits die hard. You have persistent itch to troll Indians and their achievements. If it was Pakistani in Indian place, then you would be full of words of praises.

 

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It is true majority urban dominant castes going abroad. But they still had to ace the entrance exams to get into top Indian universities like IIts and IIMs. It is sheer hard work, ethics and modicum of grey matter is needed to ace these exams. It is the top creme who make it. After completing their bachelor degree they go for US higher education. Anyone can follow their trajectory for getting high income jobs. In fact most immigrants on student visas follow this route to get into US.
Others like Gujjus and Punjabis succeed in businesses like convenience stores, motels, and gas stations.

bro, US-OECD countries get second ranked educated people of South Asia. first ranked gets government job with TATA etc. while those who fail to get job due to reservations etc, those who were as good as those who get government jobs, finally try for private jobs, for OECD's firms.
these UPPER Caste people are as competent as reservation people who get government jobs in reservation in India.
nearly as good as government jobs requirements in South Asia, and the Upper Caste people of this category mainly visit US-West, those who then opt for private jobs in India-Overseas..
they dont get admission in top Institutes in India but no less competent than the required marks.
US firms have good idea about these competent people. i find US might have recruited almost all those who fail to get admission in IITS-IIMs but no less competent

those who dont get admission in IITs-IIMs are in big number too, with nearly missing the marks.....