Top American graduates heading to India for employment

[desiman]

NRIs are not Indian citizens, they are American citizens. I am talking about the Indian students that leave India to do their Masters abroad, they don't want to go back to India at any cost, & that is a fact.

NRI's can be Indian citizens as well, get your facts straight.

 

[desiman]

Oh my bad, I confused Non–Resident foreign citizens of Indian Origin with NRIs. I should kill myself now!!!

92% Indian students in US ready for future back in India - Hindustan Times


This is a survey conducted by 3 universities, so it doesn't really hold any real credibility. It is an extremely limited survey as well.

and what you say holds more credibility than that ?????? Common give me a break, we all know why you like to criticize India, your flag says it all.

 

[A1Kaid]

Guys, this is a joke of a thread no "top American Graduate" would go and work in India, plain and simple. There are many opportunities here for highly educated professionals.


I can't believe how naive some of you are.

 

[ranja]

NRI's can be Indian citizens as well, get your facts straight.

Maybe you might also get facts right NRI is an Indian resident not can be - may be bu IS an Indian citizen.

 

[President Camacho]

I've never seen a top American graduate go to India after graduation, they all talk about the excessive corruption & (no offense) fi-lth in the country. Secondly, all the Indians that come from India are desperate to stay inside the US at whatever cost, despite the poor economy here, & when I asked them if they wanted to go back to India, they gave me this look like 'are you crazy'?

^^That's a pure BS.

Not only Indians, I have seen Africans, Latin, Russians, Americans, and even Canadians (talking about strictly top school graduates - <10) coming to India for work.

Some, whom I know on personal basis, are working in Delhi after graduating from Wharton, HBS, Carnegie and Ross. And none of them ever complained of any fiIth here because there is none. None gave me that particular 'crazy' look either, that you talked about.

At the same time, I do say that India is not the hottest destination for top school graduates. The US still remains the top choice because payment in India is yet to catch up, while the cost of living in the US and hot cities in India is almost same. With these and a few other points in consideration, it becomes easier for the students to pay off the education loans if they work in the US than in India.

But complaints of fiIth and crazy look... you're talkin' a bit weird man.

 

[Trisonics]

Guys, this is a joke of a thread no "top American Graduate" would go and work in India, plain and simple. There are many opportunities here for highly educated professionals.


I can't believe how naive some of you are.

Haha another classic case of a Pakistani burning. Just because you live in the US and interact with Pakistanis there doesn't mean anything. Look around ..and interact with others as well.

Here is an example:

Infosys' Technologies Ltd. Global Internship Program

Infosys' IT consulting and software solutions address the mission-critical needs of Fortune 500 corporations as well as emerging corporate leaders. Interns are provided a monthly student trainee allowance to take care of all the living costs. Locations for internships: mainly India, also United Kingdom, Japan, and Canada. Applicants may be undergraduates, post-graduates, or doctoral students.

International Internship Opportunities for Undergraduate and Graduate Students | Vanderbilt International Office

http://aas.org/career/summer.php

U.S. Students Needed for Prestigious India Exchange Program

Paid research-based internships available in India for U.S. graduate students in science, technology, engineering, and medical disciplines.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=7307446629&topic=6320


I can give you several such examples but let me save you the searching

 

[A1Kaid]

^ Look I'm not going to argue with you because you have already concluded that "top American graduates" go to Hind for employment, there is little to nothing that can change that.

In America I interact and meet, work, study, hang out, etc mostly with (white) Americans, very few Pakistanis or Pakistani-Americans for that matter. Don't judge of what you know little about. Believe me you are very wrong in general no top American graduate in his/her right mind would go to India for employment. Many of them don't even go to Canada or Japan highly modernized countries, most of them stay here in the US or move out of state and head to the major cities...


But here you are thinking there going to of all places India...come on you know better.

 

[great]

^ Look I'm not going to argue with you because you have already concluded that "top American graduates" go to Hind for employment, there is little to nothing that can change that.

In America I interact and meet, work, study, hang out, etc mostly with (white) Americans, very few Pakistanis or Pakistani-Americans for that matter. Don't judge of what you know little about. Believe me you are very wrong in general no top American graduate in his/her right mind would go to India for employment. Many of them don't even go to Canada or Japan highly modernized countries, most of them stay here in the US or move out of state and head to the major cities...


But here you are thinking there going to of all places India...come on you know better.

Are you kidding me? I recently graduated from one of the world's top universities (actually world's leading university by most accounts). I have had an offer for $150k to work for a firm in US but I decided that I would return to India to set up my own firm. I know so many Indians and non-indians alike who are interested doing business in India. They are on the wall right now, give it another 5 years almost 30-50% of all Indians would return. Obviously we are not talking about Pakistan here but India which is one of the fastest growing major markets. So next time it would be prudent if you don't pass your delusional judgments here especially when you don't have necessary qualifications.

PS: you obviously don't hung out with enough qualified white Americans.

 

[Trisonics]

^ Look I'm not going to argue with you because you have already concluded that "top American graduates" go to Hind for employment, there is little to nothing that can change that.

There was no conclusion drawn from my end. The only one drawing conclusions is you. The India-curiosity for some Americans starts at the university. Many where I studied took courses in Bangalore during the summer. They loved the work ethic, the people and more importantly their projects and what they learned. That continues and many do take up internships in India. Here are some more links from American sources that may change your mind. Nobody claimed that India is "The" destination for American grads but at the same time the number of American grads and professionals looking at India as a destination for work is increasing.

After graduating from Northwestern University last year, Nate Linkon contemplated job offers in Chicago and New York. But he chose a less conventional path and started his career here, in India’s booming tech capital.

The 22-year-old Milwaukee native works in marketing at Infosys Technologies Ltd., India’s second-largest software exporter. He’s part of a small but growing number of young Americans moving to Bangalore and other Indian cities to beef up their resumes, launch businesses or study globalization in one of the world’s fastest-growing economies.

Americans seeking opportunities in India - Business - Personal finance - msnbc.com

I almost feel guilty telling them how well it is going," says Rosen, a former freelance writer who's now in charge of setting up an internal training program for Mindcrest, a Chicago-based company that does outsourced legal work in India for American firms. "But the truth is, I'm busy, thriving and eager as ever."

Dan Baxter, a 35-year-old Canadian, has found that it can be very difficult to find work in India if you don't have a job lined up before you get there. He works in Mumbai as a senior vice president for Fleishman-Hillard, a global marketing and communications firm, but his wife is still looking.

Business & Technology | Jobs and perks draw North Americans to India, a bright spot in a dark year | Seattle Times Newspaper

At the end of the day, It doesn't matter what you and I think, what matters is things have changed in India and it will attract business and people from all over the world. Some may be tourists, some businessmen and others will be grads ..American grads!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Its a fairly logical step, if India or Pakistan had not wasted billions into wars and weapons perhaps things would be 1000 times even better then what they are now, I saw the current status is 20 years late , and for Pakistan the delay is 35 years late (due to war in our backyards)

 

[IndoCarib]

Yeah right you loser, many qualified Americans don't consider Hindustan anything worthy. You said you just graduated from one of the most high ranked Universities and know Americans who are going to Hind for employment that is the big joke and that shows you are lieing. Vast majority of American graduates stay in US and don't even bother going to a third world gutter nation Hindustan. You people are ao deluded because a few articles have come out suggesting a very limited number of Americans already working in companies that have outlets or subsidiaries in Hind staying in Hind and working. Buddy the big joke here is your graduate claim, your level of knowledge here and delusion make it hard to believe this. Not to mention your lack of research skills had you bothered to actually research this you would know this story of a limited number of Americans going to Hind is exactly that a limited number.

when you say such things we know you are frustrated !

some more for you ;

Indian firms turn to expats - Economy and Politics - livemint.com

 

[Peshwa]

Oh my bad, I confused Non&#8211;Resident foreign citizens of Indian Origin with NRIs. I should kill myself now!!!

92% Indian students in US ready for future back in India - Hindustan Times



This is a survey conducted by 3 universities, so it doesn't really hold any real credibility. It is an extremely limited survey as well.

And you're basing your "excellent" analysis on what sample size?

Wait...to begin with let's get your credibility in check.....at least we have heard of these colleges....who the **** are you again?

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

And you're basing your "excellent" analysis on what sample size?

Wait...to begin with let's get your credibility in check.....at least we have heard of these colleges....who the **** are you again?

The original report if it helps

http://smlr.rutgers.edu/will-they-return

 

[Punjabbi Munda]

If any one in Delhi goes through the the Pitam Pura ring road,idk what happened in an year or 2 the area is full for firangs with their office suits on.

 

[third eye]

For start-up jobs, graduates taking American degrees to India - The Washington Post

Brett Bivens is a sports fanatic from Michigan who graduated from college last year, found a good banking job in Chicago and had a bright future in finance. That’s why his family was taken aback when, a few weeks ago, he told them he accepted a job at a little-known start-up—in India.

After a year in corporate banking, Bivens was looking for a job at a small, fast-growing organization where he could make a big and lasting contribution. He also wanted his work to be sports-related, which further narrowed his search. Then he stumbled on what seemed like the perfect opportunity.

The job was for a company called Krossover Intelligence, which allows high school and college coaches to upload game footage and receive detailed statistical analyses 24 hours later. Bivens’ job would be to oversee operations in Bangalore, where many of the company’s developers are based.

“It was kind of shocking that each bullet point on the job listing was exactly what I wanted to do,” he said. “The kicker was that it was in India.”

Bivens is part of a growing faction of graduates from American universities who depart for emerging economies soon after getting their degrees.

India in particular has become a magnet for graduates of American business schools who seek a start-up experience, a lower cost of living and a global element for their resumes, said Kunal Bahl, the founder of Snapdeal, a leading Indian e-commerce site.

“There’s a sense of excitement people see in India,” Bahl said. “There are tons fast-growing companies there that are run by young people. And there’s a great deal of openness to that among non-Indians.”

Most of them want a slice of India’s booming economy, which grew 9.7 percent last year, compared with 2.8 percent in the United States. E-commerce and other online start-ups are flourishing there, often by replicating the success of American companies. Venture capital investment in Asia has tripled since 2006, and India has the second-largest mobile market in the world after China. (Snapdeal adds a new user every four seconds, Bahl notes.)

The boom has brought with it a market for U.S.-trained product managers, operations specialists and the like. The Indian job site Shine.com is holding job fairs in New Jersey and California, and a few months ago, Bahl was recruiting for his company at top U.S. business schools. He said he received about 2,000 resumes within three weeks, and about a third of them were from people with American names.

Adding sought-after skills

Bahl, who graduated from the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Business, believes moving to an emerging market is a smart tactical move for recent business-school grads who want to put a global spin on their resumes and make themselves more attractive to hot U.S.-based companies in the future.

“Someone coming out of an MBA might be looking for a product management role at a fast-growing company, but there are a finite number of those companies in the U.S.,” he said.

For California native Valerie Wagoner, India was the end-goal, not the stepping stone. A Stanford graduate with an interest in both entrepreneurship and emerging markets, she came to Bangalore in 2008 to work for a mobile payments company. After two years, she co-founded her own start-up, a mobile-phone marketing firm called ZipDial.

“It’s definitely a growing market for mobile, and there are a lot of interesting business opportunities that come out of that,” she said. “Plus, they speak English here.”

In addition to speaking the same language, Indian start-ups also share a culture with their American counterparts. Start-up offices in Bangalore look like they could be in Silicon Valley, with jeans-wearing 20-somethings busy writing new computer code, Bahl said.

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“There is a lot of cross-cultural exposure between the U.S. and India,” Bahl said. “You’re not the first white person someone’s meeting.”

Home field advantage

Granted, globe-trotting Americans like Bivens and Wagoner are still relatively rare. The majority of those who turn to India and other fast-growing economies for business opportunities are natives of those countries who, like Bahl, came to the United States for the degree, but didn’t stay for the job market.

The difference is that a decade ago, more foreign students attempted to stay in this country after graduating, but now they are increasingly taking their freshly-minted U.S. degrees back home. Shari Loessberg, a professor of global entre*pre*neur*ship in the Sloan School of Management at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said about half her Indian students wish to return home after graduating, and nearly all of the Chinese and Brazilian students do.

In surveying Indian and Chinese workers who had returned to their homelands after obtaining American degrees, the Kauffman Foundation found that “72 percent of Indian and 81 percent of Chinese returnees said that the opportunities to start their own businesses were better or much better in their home countries.” More than half of the businesses started by Indian returnees were in the information technology sector, and most had between two and 50 employees.

Wagoner said that while there are a fair number of non-Indian Americans who come there to work for start-ups or to intern, the majority of American graduates who start businesses there are ethnically Indian. Just as Americans bring beneficial skills to the Indian start-up scene, she said, natives generally have an easier time actually running companies.

“Broadly generalizing, communication skills, writing, presentation—those are all things that are emphasized more in U.S. education than in Indian education,” she said. “But a foreigner cannot get everything done in business here that an Indian person can get done.”

Finding help abroad.

Vasu Kulkarni, Krossover’s 25-year-old founder, grew up in India but went to college at the University of Pennsylvania. He started Krossover in 2008, when fundraising was an uphill battle and American developers were both rare and expensive.

“Everyone and their mother seems to be doing a start-up these days, and the good developers have been snapped up by the Facebooks and Googles of the world,” he said. “The talent pool has definitely shrunk.”

Leveraging his Indian background, Kulkarni found a team of developers in Bangalore whose efforts would cost a fraction of what their American equivalents would. The nearly 12-hour time difference also allows Krossover’s programmers to write code during New York’s night time so that features can be developed faster.

But there was, in fact, one big cultural problem: The Indian workers aren’t familiar with the American sports that Krossover analyzes.

“When they had a question about something at 2 a.m. our time, we thought it might be useful to have an American guy who has played these sports on the ground there,” Kulkarni said.

When he listed the job opening, Bivens was the first person to respond. Kulkarni knew right away he had found his American guy.

“We needed someone who’s young and loves sports—and someone who’s adventurous enough to pack their bags and move across the world,” Kulkarni said. “I never got the sense that he was worried or thinking twice.”

Life in India

Bivens arrived in Bangalore in early December and is staying in a hotel while he gets acquainted with the city that will be his home for the next year or two. He said he’s enjoying living a typical start-up life, complete with long hours, a frantic pace and a fun, collaborative environment. He keeps in regular contact with Krossover’s New York office.

“Everyone there has been so supportive,” he said. “They totally understand that it’s tough to jump into a new culture.”

Of course, life in India isn’t without its quirks. Bivens was most surprised by Bangalore’s nightmarish traffic—another casualty of the city’s exponential growth. And while the city is modern and relatively cosmopolitan, it does face occasional power outages and water shortages.

“There are some things that we take for granted in the U.S.,” Wagoner said. “I don’t tell everyone to come over—they have to really want it. But if they do, it’s an amazing experience.”