Top 10 Fighter Jets (Your 2 Cents)

[Durvag]

where is F14...?

 

[Neptune]

where is F14...?

Having Tomcat's at Iranian Air Force doesn't mean that it's deserve to be in top 10

 

[gambit]

sexier thn my gf,,,

In a dominatrix kind of way......Kinky...

 

[Durvag]

Having Tomcat's at Iranian Air Force doesn't mean that it's deserve to be in top 10

I dont say where is tomcats bcz Iran has it, F14 is a good fighter and you should not forget it, and F14 in his age was the most powerful jet fighter of world.....

 

[Neptune]

I dont say where is tomcats bcz Iran has it, F14 is a good fighter and you should not forget it, and F14 in his age was the most powerful jet fighter of world.....

got that, but if so, by logic, even F-100 or SuperSabra would be the best fighter.

 

[Durvag]

got that, but if so, by logic, even F-100 or SuperSabra would be the best fighter.

If they are comparable to the fighter of this time....

 

[assassin123]

TOP 5 (4th gen.)
1.typhoon/rapale.
2.gripen NG.
3.SU 35.
4.F 16 IN.
5.F 15K

 

[moon_light]

The NG Demonstrator has successfully sustained Supercruise at Mach 1.2 or higher [for a satisfying amount of distance] with the following configurations:

- 2xIRIS-T + 4xMeteor + 2x450 gallon external tanks
- 2xAIM-9L + 4xAMRAAM + 2x450 gallon external tanks
- 2xIRIS-T + 2xMeteor + 2xGbu-49 + 2x450 gallon external tanks
- 2xIRIS-T + 4xMeteor + 2xGbu-49
- 2xIRIS-T + 4xAMRAAM with 2 double-pylons + 2xBK90 + 2x450 gallon external tanks

to have a useful range your gripen need fuel tank which increase it's RCS and reduce maneuver significantly , btw can you please quote the link showing that gripen can supercruise in these configurations

So no. It's not very restricted in terms of supercruise and no, it still has a far superior supercruise-envelope compared to the F-16 or F-35 (that neither have the ability to reach and sustain supercruise). Even the JAS 39 Gripen A/B/C/D has been able to supercruise for a short period of time during certain environmental factors.

doesnot mean much f-35 cannot sustain supersonic speed without afterburner but it have much more fuel compared to gripen

I've never claimed the Gripen's radar system would outshine the F-35's radar system nor that it's stealthier than an F-35. However, it's important to highlight that the Gripen E/F is far from passive in those areas. It'll get even more interesting in January 2013 when the Gripen E/F specifications will be specified. There's quite a large possibility that new RCS-reducing-enhancements might be employed such as stealthy weapon pods, conformal & removable AAM bays as thought of on the F-15SE, a new split-nose, new radar-absorbant paint/RAM-coating etc. The 39C fighter probably has amongst the smallest RCS/IR-signature of any 4 & 4.5 generation jet to this date, and has very enhanced silent & passive seekers employed aswell as used to have its own data-link system much like that of the advanced F-22's.

gripen have much bigger RCS than F-35 ( 0.1 m2 clean vs 0.001 m2 ) and with weapon carried externally this will be even worse ( not to mention external fuel tank ) , the APG-81 will also be much much stronger than NOAR

APG-81 AESA (F-35A/B/C)

For RCS 0.0001 m2 class target: 16 km+
For RCS 0.001 m2 class target: 28 km+
For RCS 0.1 m2 class target: 90 km+
For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 160 km+
For RCS 5.0 m2 class target: 240 km+
For RCS 10.0 m2 class target: 285 km+

NOAR AESA (JAS-39 C/D PLUS, post-2013)

For RCS 0.0001 m2 class target: 10~11 km+
For RCS 0.001 m2 class target: 18~20 km+
For RCS 0.1 m2 class target: 56~62 km+
For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 100~110 km+
For RCS 5.0 m2 class target: 150~165 km+
For RCS 10.0 m2 class target: 178~195 km+

the gripen can supercruise while f-35 can only do it with a boost from afterburner but that doesnot really matter since f-35 detect it long before it can detect the f-35 which mean f-35 have enough time to accelerate to top speed ( mach 1.6 ) before launching missiles
in WVR gripen may have better sustain turning however DAS allow f-35 to attack enemy coming from any direction , also no aircraft can out maneuver aim-9x or aim-132 so i dont think gripen can have any advantages here , not to mention that F-35 will have DIRCM while gripen doesnot making it much more vulnerable to modern IIR missiles