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Tokyo Olympic 2021: Discussion and Update

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The games are still up for grabs, China and the US have hopes in many areas. We still have the big wrestling to come....



Valarie Allman's last throw on Monday didn't count.

It didn't matter. Her first was more than good enough.

The U.S. discus thrower's first attempt in Monday's Olympic final traveled 68.98 meters, more than two meters farther than anyone else's. The foul on her last throw didn't bother her one bit. She responded with a smile and a dance knowing her place on the podium was secure.

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Tokyo 2020 Olympics - Athletics - Women's Discus Throw - Final - Olympic Stadium, Tokyo, Japan - August 2, 2021. Valarie Allman of the United States in action

Allman bested German silver medalist Kristin Pudenz (66.86 meters) and Cuban bronze medalist Yaime Perez (65.72 meters) to secure Team USA's first gold medal in Track and Field at the Tokyo Olympics. She's the third American woman to win gold in the event, joining Lillian Copeland from 1932 and Stephanie Brown Trafton from 2008. The 26-year-old achieved the feat in her first Olympic appearance.

Two-time Olympic champion Sandra Perkovic came up short of the podium in her effort for a third straight gold with a fourth-place throw of 65.01 meters.

 
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It's very satisfying, every medal is very hard to get and there are many countries waiting for their first medal or first gold medal.

What other sports can Indonesia win gold in the next few days?

The sports that China can win gold are basically in the first half of the Olympics.

I think the possibility to get more medals are much decreasing in the coming days and they are not the kind of sport where Indonesia is quite strong in world level. Indonesia needs to concentrate on the sports where we can get medal during Asian Games for the preparation of next Olympics to expand the medals taking.

At least if we can be the best in South East Asia and can beat India, the result will be accepted and so far we have achieved the target.

 
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As China become richer and technologically advanced with access to world class training facilities and coaches, more Chinese athletes will win gold in sports like swimming, cycling, rowing, sailing, fencing, athletics.

I believe the US is more scared about China’s sports achievements in 2020 Tokyo Olympics than 2008 Beijing Olympics because China now entering into sports that are dominated by Western countries.

China winning at swimming and athletics will cause a double blow for the US. It will increase China’s gold medal tally at the expense of US gold medal tally because China will be winning events previously won by the US. Zero-sum.
US still has a unrivaled advantage that China will never have, sizable racial groups from all races on the planet, certain races are talented than others in certain sports, we rarely see non black sprinters entering 100M final and Africans almost alway dominate long distance running events.
 
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US still has a unrivaled advantage that China will never have, sizable racial groups from all races on the planet, certain races are talented than others in certain sports, we rarely see non black sprinters entering 100M final and Africans almost alway dominate long distance running events.

The US doesn't do well at all in long distance. Also with 100 and 200m they will fall behind Jamaica.
 
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The US doesn't do well at all in long distance. Also with 100 and 200m they will fall behind Jamaica.
Jamacans are also blacks, over the years, those events alway almost be dominated by the blacks.
 
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US still has a unrivaled advantage that China will never have, sizable racial groups from all races on the planet, certain races are talented than others in certain sports, we rarely see non black sprinters entering 100M final and Africans almost alway dominate long distance running events.
Nationality is just a patched up political identity that serves the elites,what's the point of winning if it's not even your own blood kin ?idg,just my opinion. The only thing holding US is their fanatism of being no.1, remove that ,and the US entity will self implode when it's not holding onto the consolation of being no.1 at something.
 
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US still has a unrivaled advantage that China will never have, sizable racial groups from all races on the planet, certain races are talented than others in certain sports, we rarely see non black sprinters entering 100M final and Africans almost alway dominate long distance running events.

With African nations improving, US will lose its advantage in track and field as there are far bigger pool to pull from there.
 
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With African nations improving, US will lose its advantage in track and field as there are far bigger pool to pull from there.

Even NBA best players have already been defeated by Nigeria

 
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The Olympics games is so biased in its setup its not even funny anymore.

Any competition when China show dominating positions, like Weight-lifting, they limit the total number of players one country can send to.

Any competition when the poor insecure American dopers are good at with their magic drugs, like swimming, they wont have any such limitation, instead they will award 100 golds to them, setup a new swimming competition for every 5 meter difference.

Just imagining weight-lifting offer 40 golds and China can send as many players as they are qualified...

Yes, it is crazy biased! The US gets 30 medals from swimming! It is nuts.
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China gets the most from shooting and weightlifting but it is only 11 and 8 a piece.
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It is amazing how China could keep up in golds and total medals when it needs to cobble together wins from many disciplines. The US can just send do basically same thing over and over again in swimming for medal after medal.

If you want to talk cheating just look at the insane number of medals given to swimming which is biased against everyone outside the West.
 
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Yes, it is crazy biased! The US gets 30 medals from swimming! It is nuts.
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China gets the most from shooting and weightlifting but it is only 11 and 8 a piece.
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It is amazing how China could keep up in golds and total medals when it needs to cobble together wins from many disciplines. The US can just send do basically same thing over and over again in swimming for medal after medal.

If you want to talk cheating just look at the insane number of medals given to swimming which is biased against everyone outside the West.

Don't you know swimming for 200 m and 400 m are so vastly different that one might as well be football?

But also weightlifting is all the same.
US still has a unrivaled advantage that China will never have, sizable racial groups from all races on the planet, certain races are talented than others in certain sports, we rarely see non black sprinters entering 100M final and Africans almost alway dominate long distance running events.

They are too insecure to allow Asian lifters. Good for China because if they did it might make Chinese lifters sweat a little.
 
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CHina did well with its medal haul. Efficiently sweeping medal haul is one thing But for china to be really seen as a sporting nation and reap the soft power benefits of being seen one - it must do well with popular team sports. Thats where the passion of the world is .

Even in US olympic stars dont get that much attention apart from few track starts or occasional swimming or gymnastics sensations.But many ppl here go crazy about american football, baseball, basket ball. Thats where millions are, TV ratings are and passions are.

India/Pakistan barely get any medals but alteast 20% of the world see their sachin tendulkar or imran khan as sporting legends. Pele, maradona, ronaldo are recognized by like 80% of the world. Which chinese sportsman has any such recall ?

Better to focus on lawn tennis rather than table tennis and games like cricket, soccer, basketball, field hockey.
 
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