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To dam or not to dam? Pakistan experts ponder flood strategy

By AFP
Published about 11 hours ago

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ISLAMABAD: Energy-starved Pakistan relies on a multitude of dams and barrages to prevent Himalayan rivers from flooding and help meet its power needs, but their failure to prevent disaster four years running is making some experts question their utility.

Every year since 2010, which saw the worst floods in Pakistan's history, the country has experienced catastrophic inundations that kill hundreds and wipe out millions of acres of prime farmland, harming the heavily agrarian economy.

Starting when the country was still a part of British-ruled India, engineers embarked upon ambitious projects to harness the water that flows from Kashmir through the length of the country to the Arabian Sea.

Today Pakistan is home to the biggest earth-filled dam in the world at Tarbela, just north of Islamabad, and more than 150 others classed as “large”.

With more than 30 per cent of its power coming from hydro-electric sources, such structures are also crucial to help alleviate a chronic energy crisis which has put a brake on industrial productivity.

But a campaign for non-structural measures to contain flooding is gradually gaining ground — with proponents arguing that man-made interventions can, counter-intuitively, exacerbate the floods.

There are two major arguments — the build up of sediment in a dam shortens its useful lifespan, while the slowing of rivers due to structures mean that silt accumulates, decreasing their capacity.

Kaisar Bengali, a career technocrat who advises the chief minister of Balochistan province, said: “Dams create floods, dams don't prevent floods.

“When the floods occur, if you have a storage area you can store the water in that area. Dams have a reservoir so they create a lake. Barrages divert the water into canals. They don't have a reservoir.

“But they don't just block water, they block silt as well and as a result the river bed rises. So in 2010 the water that passed through the Indus was less that in 1976 yet it created more flooding because the river had risen 6-7 feet.“

A 2000 research paper commission by conservation group WWF that looked at various countries warned of similar consequences and further noted the drainage of wetlands as well as deforestation associated with dams led to a loss of natural sponges.

Decisions on whether to release water are also subject to opposing concerns — dam managers may seek to keep reservoirs full for energy generation, whereas an early release could lessen flood impacts.

Mushtaq Gaadi, a water activist and academic at Islamabad's Quaid-e-Azam university, noted that some of this year's worst flooding occurred in the Chenab river, where a key structure has lost significant discharge capacity due to the build-up of sediment.

“The most important and critical infrastructure at Chenab is Trimmu (barrage) which was constructed during the British era.

“Its discharge capacity has been drastically reduced. It was not capable of discharging more than 600,000 cusecs. Mainly due to the rising of the river bed level,” due to silting.

False sense of security
Dams and barrages are difficult and expensive to de-silt and maintain, forcing Pakistan to turn to help from multilateral lending agencies such as the World Bank and Asian Development Bank.

With the World Bank's aid, Pakistan completed its renovation of the Taunsa barrage in central Punjab province in early 2010 at a cost of $144 million — only to see an embankment upstream of the structure catastrophically fail when the floods came in August.

This year, Pakistan was again forced to blow up protective dykes to divert flood waters away from cities to less-densely populated areas — which Gaadi said was another sign of a failing strategy.

Beyond their disposition to fail, dams are also responsible for luring people into harm's way by creating a false sense of security in areas that are naturally fertile flood zones. Many of 2014's almost 300 deaths could have been prevented had villagers not been living in such areas, said Gaadi.

Despite the noted shortcomings, the government believes that more, not fewer dams are the solution, and has vowed to press ahead with new projects — such as the Diamer-Bhasha Dam in northern Gilgit Baltistan, projected to cost some $14 billion.

Shafiq-ur-Rehman, an environmental sciences professor at the University of Peshawar, said it showed a lack of long-term planning.

“First we build dykes and spend millions of rupees on them and then we blow them up and drown people to save cities or other areas,” he said.

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@Hyperion @farhan_9909 @EyanKhan @A.Rafay @Secur @HRK - Abbbb tou maaan jaoooo Kalabagh Dam parrr ! :cry:

Pakistan doesn't has the capacity to even build Dams like Basha and dasu atleast till 2030,Building a dam of kalabagh calibre will take even more.

Yaar ye saare politicians k tricks hay.They are chanting for Kalabagh the most because they know it is not going to be build
 
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If not big we should start building small dam

It would be greatly beneficial for Pakistan to build smaller dams across the Indus River. Locate where the floods did the greatest amount of damage and loss to life and create dams upriver from those towns/cities.

With wetlands around the dam along with the capacity for some water to be diverted to small reservoirs.

If the dams/ reservoirs are build close to population centers they locals will take responsibility of it and will take action on factories/ individuals polluting the river or politicians taking money away from the maintenance funds.

Not to mention that the close proximity to the city/ town will cut down on the electricity loss.
 
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It would be greatly beneficial for Pakistan to build smaller dams across the Indus River. Locate where the floods did the greatest amount of damage and loss to life and create dams upriver from those towns/cities.

With wetlands around the dam along with the capacity for some water to be diverted to small reservoirs.

If the dams/ reservoirs are build close to population centers they locals will take responsibility of it and will take action on factories/ individuals polluting the river or politicians taking money away from the maintenance funds.

Not to mention that the close proximity to the city/ town will cut down on the electricity loss.

This time around the biggest damage came from the Chenab river in northern Punjab, not from the Indus. All of its run within Pakistan is across relatively flat land.
 
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This time around the biggest damage came from the Chenab river in norther Punjab, not from the Indus. All of its run within Pakistan is across relatively flat land.

not just flat, but low. unlike jhelum / indus, it is unmoderated by the terrain, and as soon as entering punjab has comparatively low lying plains, sloping down toward sindh til the sea.

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question is, if you know all this, then you clearly understand how imperative proper dams and reservoirs are for our survival. then why continue to defend these corrupt mafias whose foot-dragging on the issue amounts to no less than criminal negligence at the scale of mass murder, other than to irritate your (ex-)countrymen for some gripe which you may or may not still hold?
 
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not just flat, but low. unlike jhelum / indus, it is unmoderated by the terrain, and as soon as entering punjab has comparatively low lying plains, sloping down toward sindh til the sea.

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question is, if you know all this, then you clearly understand how imperative proper dams and reservoirs are for our survival. then why continue to defend these corrupt mafias whose foot-dragging on the issue amounts to no less than criminal negligence at the scale of mass murder, other than to irritate your (ex-)countrymen for some gripe which you may or may not still hold?

I agree that proper dams and reservoirs are important, but please note that the present situation has been in the making for half a century, at least. Now, please tell me who should be taken to task for all the foot-dragging over all this time? Just the present government? Or ALL of them who played their own part in this sorry tale?
 
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Canals to divert water to Baluchistan , and construct Lakes in that province artificial lakes

> Construction of Majior DAM , Kala Bagh or alternative option
> Under ground tunnels to move water to Baluchistan

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Transport the water under ground , towards an artificial Lake in Balouchistan area
 
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I agree that proper dams and reservoirs are important, but please note that the present situation has been in the making for half a century, at least. Now, please tell me who should be taken to task for all the foot-dragging over all this time? Just the present government? Or ALL of them who played their own part in this sorry tale?

doesn't it go without saying? ofcourse all administrations thus far have been woefully incompetent in addressing this particular issue, amongst a host of others. but does that give a green light to the current season of morons to shift the blame to past mistakes whilst doing exactly the same- ie. NOTHING. does the nation move forward in this way? does any nation? especially one for whom this matter is getting graver with each passing year owing to overpopulation, stress on arable land and freshwater, + the forces of climate change / global warming (don't tell me you follow the neocon denial line of thought on this)? of course you know this, but chose once again to defend incompetence by shifting the blame, delving into the past and skirting the predicament of the PRESENT and what should be done now, as predicted. *sigh*
 
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Process is very simple

a) Dig 2-3 Artificial Lakes in Baluchistan
b) Develop underground 3 detour in Rivers (Indus/Chinab) , which would direct water to the Baluchistan area
There would be electrical doors to allow water to get redirect towards barren areas of Baluchistan.
c) Since the tunnels would be underground the fertile land above in Punjab would be not touched.


When heavy rains would be forcasted , some % of water would be diverted via underground detour , towards Balouchistan and normal % would be allowed to go thru to Sindh Area

Not rocket science people in middle ages did this in Europe
 
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All Pakistani politician are donig is making public damn fool by starting Dams taking kick backs and then shelving it, been happening since bhutto's time. Can anyone name one damn dam built after Ayub, someone should take these all these mofos to a task for not looking after Pakistan's interests. I dont think Pakistan is left with any capable person anymore, decades of bad education has produced the current lot who cannot think cannot plan.
 
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doesn't it go without saying? ofcourse all administrations thus far have been woefully incompetent in addressing this particular issue, amongst a host of others. but does that give a green light to the current season of morons to shift the blame to past mistakes whilst doing exactly the same- ie. NOTHING. does the nation move forward in this way? does any nation? especially one for whom this matter is getting graver with each passing year owing to overpopulation, stress on arable land and freshwater, + the forces of climate change / global warming (don't tell me you follow the neocon denial line of thought on this)? of course you know this, but chose once again to defend incompetence by shifting the blame, delving into the past and skirting the predicament of the PRESENT and what should be done now, as predicted. *sigh*

Is the topic of this thread the lack of dams and flood control, or the inability of each successive government to meet these challenges or your obvious anger at my thoughts on each one of those? Your posts are all over the place.

The Chenab poses a special problem from the point of view of flood control, since Pakistan has the rights to all the water per the IBWT and India cannot build any water storage dams on it, but Pakistan's geography in this region means it cannot do so either. The three rivers to its East (Ravi, Sutlej and Beas) at least have dams on the Indian side to regulate their flow in case of heavy rains.
 
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Canals to divert water to Baluchistan , and construct Lakes in that province artificial lakes

> Construction of Majior DAM , Kala Bagh or alternative option
> Under ground tunnels to move water to Baluchistan

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Transport the water under ground , towards an artificial Lake in Balouchistan area

Are those photos posted as an example? Because one of the photos is from Europe, and the other is from Tokyo.
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st. Now, please tell me who should be taken to task for all the foot-dragging over all this time? Just the present government? Or ALL of them who played their own part in this sorry tale?

Agreed.
Nawaz Sharif is just another addition to the decades of negligent and corrupt foot-draggers who've run the country.
 
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