Joe Shearer
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i would disagree with you though i am indian provocation was made by nehru when he supported tibet freedom fighter and gave safe place for dalai lama howeverchina has bad track record with neighbours example vietnam
This is not very good history, on several counts.
First, it is a myth that India supported Tibetan freedom fighters, at least in the form that this myth is perpetuated.
The fact is that the CIA helped the Khampa to keep up their resistance from the semi-independent principality of Mastang on the Sino/Tibetan-Nepalese border. Beyond a point, these Khampa tribals, although akin to the Sherpas of Nepal proper, made themselves a nuisance, and the Royal Nepalese Army moved in, under Chinese prodding, and cleaned them out.
This was one of the incentives for China's action in promoting a Maoist take-over of Nepal, which is in progress as we write these posts.
On the question of China's bad record with its neighbours, I would rather leave that alone; it is like the famous Shiv Sastry (of Bharat Rakshak fame) argument: "Your shirt is torn!" "So what? Your fly is open!" It doesn't sound good.
China attacked and occupied Tibet forcefully, tell me why shouldn't India have supported DL? What is the provocation in it? And the Tibetan refugees feared for their lives so they escaped to India. Are you suggesting that we should have shot them when they crossed over to India? How do you turn back helpless refugees who are running for their lives. Moreover, officially India accepted Tibet as a part of China and that is our stance till date. So stop repeating this 'support of Tibetan movement' theme again and again. It is incorrect and baseless. All we did was accept Tibetan refugees who had trekked hundreds of miles in the mountains to escape the PLA and reach India.
Stop apologizing to the Chinese. We were beaten because they were stronger, period. It will not happen ever again.
No point going into that. But if Phizo had been actively allowed to build a government in exile in Burma, or in East Pakistan as it then was, what would our reactions have been? The opposition of the Chinese is not to the Dalai Lama's personal safety, it is to the government in exile located on Indian soil.
No,history of wars(not even World wars) has not been discussed in Indian school textbooks.In fact,modern China or Pakistan has rarely ever been mentioned.
Any general Indian is oblivious about the 1962 war.
I myself came to know about it when i came across some Chinese and Indians fighting about it on youtube.(same for wars with Pakistan).
This is true. There is no good military history of the 62 Incident. There are excellent individual accounts by Indian officers, truly good to read, but they do not give the full picture, the big picture. They are memoirs, not histories.
We need an A. H. Amin.
i think it was nehrus fault ,, he knew we were hopelessly ill prepared for this kindo conflict... and untimately paid the prise of weath ,los of life and national humiliation... it was like a boy singing and dancing hindi chini bhia bhai , ultimately got kicked on his balls!!
It was regrettably more nefarious than this. It was a boy doing all that you have described, and stealing the neighbourhood silver when he thought nobody was watching.
He/we were lucky to get away with that painful punishment.
Any future confrontations with india and china will have nuke angle to it, as china being militarily superior to india.
Respectfully, that is stuff and nonsense. We have a NoFirstUse policy; do you think the Chinese, the militarily superior, will use the device first?
Even if a future a confrontation happens ( although i doubt it ) , it will be more of a kind of skirmish..both country knows each other's capability and the damage a war can do...so.forget Nuke angle, the confrontation will not last for even a week just like in 87...
It depends entirely on if the CPC feels threatened. When it feels threatened, the PLA reacts with devastating effects.
The problem is not with the public, if u can see at the time of Mumbai attacks the public went as far as to say that they will stand with the government in case of war with Pakistan, I have heard many say how long would this hide and seek go on, fight the scum and blast them out. If in the process we take one or two nukes so be it, we can rebuild its better than dying like this. This was the public mood, if the govt had the balls to do the war nobody i say nobody would have opposed then. Its just that the corrupt netas without balls and adept at securing money for them simply lack the will. As in 62 and the netas are same, they are unwilling to take a stand.
This is a reasonable assessment, although none have any idea of what is involved in a nuclear holocaust.
In my eyes the Chinese wanted to teach India a lesson after we provided Dalai lama with sanctuary, because in their eyes we were supporting a 'free tibet'. But India was a passive state under Nehru who believed the chinese would never attack India how wrong he was, but in the long term it was a blessing for India as it thought as that defence should be no1 priority and u cant trust China.
True, defence should be a high priority.
True, one should trust nobody, not China in particular, but nobody, not the US, not Britain, not anybody.
Actually the lesson to be learnt is we should not trust anybody. And that defence is no.1 priority for any country.
As above.
Sincerely,