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How would such a ‘software update’ occur?

Beating, kidnapping, extortion, violence, threats etc?

Please clarify the tactics and methods such a ‘party’ would utilize to further its agenda.
I am not interested in wasting my time anymore with americans/europeans ---
 
Yes.. either they are clumsy or, playing highly cynical political game.
Government has to depend on police. When was the last time the Punjab police was equipped or trained to deal with extremists religious protests if this kind?

I agree that there is a failure here, but the failure has been decades in the making. Even reforms being undertaken are focused on dealing with everyday engagement of police with citizens and improvement in patrolling and investigations, forensics etc. These kinds of protests are not exactly the main focus of reforms.
I am not interested in wasting my time anymore with americans/europeans ---
You obviously prefer justifying murder, violence and criminal acts by religious extremists like the TLP.
 
Stop hijacking the conversation to hide the crimes of the TLP. No one justifies police excesses, whether in Pakistan or the US. But police brutality is NOT an excuse for the violence and criminal actions of the TLP.
If you beat me, I will not give you flowers, I will beat you as well --- who has given the govt right to brutally attack protesters. --

Your types are missing something here, Don't you see the common people from lower middle class background in these protests --- you say violence, I say they are taking out their frustration because of injustice done to them by the system.
 
If you beat me, I will not give you flowers, I will beat you as well --- who has given the govt right to brutally attack protesters. --

Your types are missing something here, Don't you see the common people from lower middle class background in these protests --- you say violence, I say they are taking out their frustration because of injustice done to them by the system.
Government resorted to force because the TLP protesters were blocking roads and damaging public and private property.

Next time tell your illiterate TLP goons to follow the laws and instructions on how and where to peacefully protest.
 
Government only agreed to discuss the matter in national assembly

Protest is a democratic right but threats to the state of constant fassad, attacks upon the police, blocking our roads, and curtailing the freedom of movement of the people is NOT



You people are mentally fcuking challenged

Honestly you will turn the people against you if you keep up this donkey behaviour
Lol threats to the state this spineless state could not even keep PTM leadership in jail for a few days the actual traitors are PTM but did the gov did anything against them.TLP is just a scapegoat.
 
Government has to depend on police. When was the last time the Punjab police was equipped or trained to deal with extremists religious protests if this kind?

I agree that there is a failure here, but the failure has been decades in the making. Even reforms being undertaken are focused on dealing with everyday engagement of police with citizens and improvement in patrolling and investigations, forensics etc. These kinds of protests are not exactly the main focus of reforms.

You obviously prefer justifying murder, violence and criminal acts by religious extremists like the TLP.
Your types are justifying the killing of protesters, they even want to bring in tanks. ---- the degenerate seculars will go to any extent in supporting killing of religious people.

You are secular extremists, you will find 100+1 ways in killing Muslims -- you talk like your harami american friends.
 
Anyone asking for the implementation of Islamic system+ challenging the corrupt rotten system automatically gets labeled terrorist/traitors, that's the usual stuff from the beneficiaries ---- clock is ticking for the western slaves, look what happened in Iran --- take a look what's happening in Turkey.

leftovers of company sarkar will not rule for long.
Anyone who destroys country's property and attacks LEAs is a terrorist. These sub humans do not even follow Islam themselves otherwise why take money from so called western stooges in Faizabad and go home?

You can fantasize all kind of fanatics ruling this country but our history tells us that we never voted any fanatic into power and we won't vote anyone into power. Enjoy the tear gas and baton charge !
 
Any place in world police shud b able to deal with stick and stone wielding crowds...

In Pakistan police is not so competent

Its fine... Organised protest can b dealt with rangers. They shud b issued authority of civil armed forces and trained in riot control.. Given non lethal weapons on top of lethal weapons

Any Tom dick or Harry seems to b able to make dharnas and stop traffic at will at the moment
 
Government resorted to force because the TLP protesters were blocking roads and damaging public and private property.

Next time tell your illiterate TLP goons to follow the laws and instructions on how and where to peacefully protest.
Next time tell your stupid PM not to make agreement which he can't fulfil+ who started all this shit, your stupid govt --- PM must tell the nation why tlp leader was arrested.

PTi chokra logs also used to block roads, and refused jalasas at the allotted space ---- if PTi or any other political party can do this, so can TLP, the rule remains the same.

Well that's another issue that PTi Awqat was limited to just one city, these TLP have the Awqat to block all big cities within hours (actually this is what bothering your types)
 
Any place in world police shud b able to deal with stick and stone wielding crowds...

In Pakistan police is not so competent

Its fine... Organised protest can b dealt with rangers. They shud b issued authority of civil armed forces and trained in riot control.. Given non lethal weapons on top of lethal weapons

Any Tom dick or Harry seems to b able to make dharnas and stop traffic at will at the moment
Anyone who destroys country's property and attacks LEAs is a terrorist. These sub humans do not even follow Islam themselves otherwise why take money from so called western stooges in Faizabad and go home?

You can fantasize all kind of fanatics ruling this country but our history tells us that we never voted any fanatic into power and we won't vote anyone into power. Enjoy the tear gas and baton charge !
The ruling elite has totally destroyed this country, sharifs zardaris have flown money abroad --- so what property you talking abt?
This country is in debt billions because of your ruling class, guess you are fine with this??

Leas attacking killing common people are also terrorists ----- Govts biggest enemy is their own population and police is one of the tools to brutally massacre this enemy.

@Mrc
did you also include Imran Khan in this Tom dick hary list?

Handsome PM was challenging Shahbaz sharif to bring people and he will provide containers --- now does he have the courage to provide containers to these people --- dharna container precedent us set by our handsome PM, now enjoy the fruits.
 
Your types are justifying the killing of protesters, they even want to bring in tanks. ---- the degenerate seculars will go to any extent in supporting killing of religious people.

You are secular extremists, you will find 100+1 ways in killing Muslims -- you talk like your harami american friends.
Protest peacefully, without violence, without threatening the State, without blocking roads etc and refusing to move when asked and the State won’t have to respond with force.

When protesters start acting like criminals, they should be treated like criminals.
Protestors have turned very violent at Shahrah-e-Faisal reportedly.
Yes - so called peaceful peaceful protesters defending the honor of the Prophet by destroying public and private property and committing violence.

With these kinds of ‘friends of the Prophet Muhammad and Islam’, Islam needs no enemies.
Next time tell your stupid PM not to make agreement which he can't fulfil+ who started all this shit, your stupid govt --- PM must tell the nation why tlp leader was arrested.

PTi chokra logs also used to block roads, and refused jalasas at the allotted space ---- if PTi or any other political party can do this, so can TLP, the rule remains the same.

Well that's another issue that PTi Awqat was limited to just one city, these TLP have the Awqat to block all big cities within hours (actually this is what bothering your types)
Again, learn to read and gain some comprehension skills - no commitment to expel the French Ambassador or diplomatically boycott France was made in the agreement. Government has abided by it, and even if it hadn’t abided, there is no justification for TLP thugs to destroy private and public property and
make the lives of common citizens miserable.

Atop lying and defending criminal acts by the TLP.
 
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Don't make agreements you won't stand by. Good for TLP.

TLP broke the agreement when they started announcing from their mosques for their followers to block roads, well before the deadline of the agreement. Government committed to bringing the decision of French ambassador's exit to Parliament, but did not commit to his exit otherwise. Blocking roads and causing damage to property and life to blackmail government and parliament will not be tolerated.

And these so called Ashiqs are forcing beaten up policemen to recite Labaika Ya Rasool Allah. They are in complete defiance of Allah's Commands and Hadith of Prophet PBUH.

لَاۤ اِكۡرَاهَ فِى الدِّيۡنِ
(2:256) There is no compulsion in religion


If you are a Brelvi or associate with any sect, read Aya below very carefully and reflect on it ... a clear warning to those associating themselves to sects.

اِنَّ الَّذِيۡنَ فَرَّقُوۡا دِيۡنَهُمۡ وَكَانُوۡا شِيَـعًا لَّسۡتَ مِنۡهُمۡ فِىۡ شَىۡءٍ ؕ اِنَّمَاۤ اَمۡرُهُمۡ اِلَى اللّٰهِ ثُمَّ يُنَـبِّـئُـهُمۡ بِمَا كَانُوۡا يَفۡعَلُوۡنَ
(6:159) Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muḥammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only
to Allah; then He will inform them about what they used to do.​
 
Protest peacefully, without violence, without threatening the State, without blocking roads etc and refusing to move when asked and the State won’t have to respond with force.

When protesters start acting like criminals, they should be treated like criminals.

Yes - so called peaceful peaceful protesters defending the honor of the Prophet by destroying public and private property and committing violence.

With these kinds of ‘friends of the Prophet Muhammad and Islam’, Islam needs no enemies.
see I very well know what you stand for, don't teach me Islam ---

first learn the difference between threatening the govt vs threatening the state -- state is to stay, govts come and go.


Protest peacefully, without violence, without threatening the State, without blocking roads etc and refusing to move when asked and the State won’t have to respond with force.

When protesters start acting like criminals, they should be treated like criminals.

Yes - so called peaceful peaceful protesters defending the honor of the Prophet by destroying public and private property and committing violence.

With these kinds of ‘friends of the Prophet Muhammad and Islam’, Islam needs no enemies.

Again, learn to read and gain some comprehension skills - no commitment to expel the French Ambassador or diplomatically boycott France was made in the agreement. Government has abided by it, and even if it hadn’t abided, there is no justification for TLP thugs to destroy private and public property and
make the lives of common citizens miserable.

Atop lying and defending criminal acts by the TLP.

That's my response, plain and simple -- if.PTi can block roads in Karachi, than every other party had the same right.
 
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