Tk.1,330/ton Transit Fee Proposed for Indian Goods

[eastwatch]

Even if India pays what Bangladesh asks for, even then Indians will be accused due to some suspicion. You do or You don't India is a bully this is the view of most here. So its good for India to have more options then one. While utilizing and considering the option of utilizing the Bangladesh Infrastructure, it should develop its own and also utilize the Myanmar option. NE is in such a location that its makes weather even the best of infrastructure inaccessible at times due to bad weather conditions. India infrastructure can be used for civilian transport, while others can be used for goods transport.

First pay and then blame Bangladesh. All the negotiations with fist-clinching miser Indians create only bitterness. We can see the same trait here with the Indians who are not ready to accept a payment for a transit, but, at the same time, is investing $120 million in Burma. You come up with a $100 million annual fee before we allow you to use our roads.

 

[TopCat]

I just can not understand to what extend this bhartis can have deluted thought... did you even read what is written in the link before saying such absurd stuff that it will be an Indian port... when India will have to return the operational control of the port to myaanmar after completing the project which Indian liked to keep under its control...

"
The source of continuing disagreement was the control of the port.
Since India is investing heavily in this project, it wants to retain control of
the port. This is not being accepted by Myanmar They expressed reservations over
India’s earlier proposal where India wanted to develop the port and operate it for
some time before transferring its use..


So, India softened its stand and offered Myanmar immediate use of the Sittwe Port
once it is ready for navigational purposes and agreed to hand over the Port soon
after its completion. The new offer made by India to Myanmar is a major shift in
India’s strategic thinking. It also gives an idea of the level it can go to in
accommodating Myanmar ‘s sensitivities. It is confirmed that the revised offer has
been approved by the MEA. India’s new offer to Myanmar on the development of the
Sittwe port has been approved by External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee himself. "

Even after making a port with Indian own money myaanmar showed reservation of India's operation... n bhartis like you is whinning for free transit from bangladesh since 1972.

N regarding the fees nothing has been written here. But definitely it is not likely to be free as India will have to provide some charge one way or another even after investing more then 100 million just only in a port. N if is better for India then go for it instead begging for transit even through USA for years... So before saying India is not begging anything go check your countries history regarding transit. Even your cheap and poor minded country said unwilling ness to pay any fees for river transit and begged to extend the river transit protocol for 5 more year whcih even does not have any merit.


Mitter cautions against high transit fees

Mon, Apr 4th, 2011 11:12 pm BdST

Mitter cautions against high transit fees | Bangladesh | bdnews24.com

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Chittagong, Apr 4 (bdnews24.com) — The Indian envoy has indicated his preference for low transit fees and cautioned that high fees might hinder bilateral trade.

While he told journalists that India would certainly agree to Bangladesh's decision, Rajeet Mitter also noted that expensive transit might not bring the desired level benefits, especially in the form of bilateral trade.


N regarding utilaizing hasina and her government just go n look at their track record. Despite of remaining in power for 3 years and her appeasing the bhartis she could not offer anything other then promise in the case of transit. So every time you are hearing this and that. N your bharti government also knows that even if the transit deal goes through it will be cancelled within 2 year or so whent he new government will come here under present framework.

Despite myaanmar is isolated in the world your government failed to gail control right of the so called port which your country is building with its own money. In this regard thinking of free transit is not only absurd but also ridiculous. n your 1 billion deal is just to promote sub standard Indian companies. Many country offer such credit to promote their companies. But for the case of bangladesh many projects are unwanted.

Even though India invested in that port but how the hell did they expect that Myanmar will agree to India's demand of not handing over it to Myanmar and not letting them to use it???? COME ON man.. its their country and its their port.... muhahahahaha

 

[toxic_pus]

Even though India invested in that port but how the hell did they expect that Myanmar will agree to India's demand of not handing over it to Myanmar and not letting them to use it???? COME ON man.. its their country and its their port.... muhahahahaha

I am guessing you have never heard of management control (acquired through acquisition of majority interest).

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

First pay and then blame Bangladesh. All the negotiations with fist-clinching miser Indians create only bitterness. We can see the same trait here with the Indians who are not ready to accept a payment for a transit, but, at the same time, is investing $120 million in Burma. You come up with a $100 million annual fee before we allow you to use our roads.

$100 million is roughly $ 6.5 per ton. Atleast we're down from $ 19 per tonne.

Good to see we are finally progressing on this discussion

 

[eastwatch]

$100 million is roughly $ 6.5 per ton. Atleast we're down from $ 19 per tonne.

Good to see we are finally progressing on this discussion

Yes, we are not as regressive minded as Indians are. So, which math your regressive mind has used to calculate a $6.5/ton fee if the fixed yearly fee is $100million? Where is your total tonnes in your math?

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Yes, we are not as regressive minded as Indians are. So, which math your regressive mind has used to calculate a $6.5/ton fee if the fixed yearly fee is $100million? Where is your total tonnes in your math?

What an amazingly polite way to ask a question. I can see how you are not regressive minded. [/sarcasm]

Anyways, the figure of 17 million tonnes per year has been used by your countrymen only in this thread. Here's the linkback:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/102698-tk-1-330-ton-transit-fee-proposed-indian-goods-15.html#post1664991

Oh look, there's a solitary thanx to that particular post, given by, guess who?

 

[Kaniska]

US always looks for its strategic benifit...and so do every country.And if your information is assumed to be correct in all aspect then i beleive it is not a wise move for GOI. But sometimes it happens that just for the sake of opposing anything from India,political parties start opposing everything that relates to India....

 

[Gonjo]

wow a Bangladeshi speaking Bengali, and I thought you all became allamas of urdu!

বাপস এ বেডা দেখি একটা শিং ছাড়া বলদ... বেডা মাঠে গিয়া ঘাস খাও গিয়া। তুমি আবার আইসো মানুষের সাথে তাল মিলাইতে হেহেহেহে...

 

[Gonjo]

Keno!!!!!!!!! je ordhek sondesh gulo Guest ra fele jai. Kichu habhater tatei chole jabe...

Jamon jibon jatrar durobostha, tamon e golpo tomader.

Parle puro ilish mach kena shuru koro amader moto, kotodin ar share e ilish kinbe?

 

[SR 71 Blackbird]

Jamon jibon jatrar durobostha, tamon e golpo tomader.

Parle puro ilish mach kena shuru koro amader moto, kotodin ar share e ilish kinbe?

A translation would help.

 

[eastwatch]

What an amazingly polite way to ask a question. I can see how you are not regressive minded. [/sarcasm]

Anyways, the figure of 17 million tonnes per year has been used by your countrymen only in this thread. Here's the linkback:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/102698-tk-1-330-ton-transit-fee-proposed-indian-goods-15.html#post1664991

Oh look, there's a solitary thanx to that particular post, given by, guess who?

Sorry for the impolite comments. But, the thing is you are quoting this 17 million ton per year thing out of context. It does not matter what some other guy says without really understanding the matter, the issue is here whether $19/ton is an appropriate rate or not. No news report ever said India will be transshipping 17 million tons per year. It is a very large quantity of goods and will need more than 7000 trucks each and every day to pass through BD.

This is an impossible figure, but you did not see it that way. But, you are arguing against my proposition that a yearly $100 million should be demanded by the GoB for any highway use through BD. However, I would say a $19/ton is alright if the cargo goes through the BoB+Ashuganj+Agartala route.

 

[LaBong]

বাপস এ বেডা দেখি একটা শিং ছাড়া বলদ... বেডা মাঠে গিয়া ঘাস খাও গিয়া। তুমি আবার আইসো মানুষের সাথে তাল মিলাইতে হেহেহেহে...

Otishoy durabostha to Bangladesher shikhhababyosthar, chelebelay pathshalay anekbar nijeke goru, gadha sunte hoyeche bujhi?

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Sorry for the impolite comments. But, the thing is you are quoting this 17 million ton per year thing out of context. It does not matter what some other guy says without really understanding the matter, the issue is here whether $19/ton is an appropriate rate or not. No news report ever said India will be transshipping 17 million tons per year. It is a very large quantity of goods and will need more than 7000 trucks each and every day to pass through BD.

This is an impossible figure, but you did not see it that way. But, you are arguing against my proposition that a yearly $100 million should be demanded by the GoB for any highway use through BD. However, I would say a $19/ton is alright if the cargo goes through the BoB+Ashuganj+Agartala route.

Well, the current level of road traffic to the NE is about 11 mn tonnes per year (research report by Castalia advisors, post #121). Assuming that 75% of this traffic will shift to B'desh transit (a fair assumption, given the savings in time), then the current traffic levels would be around 8 mn tons per year. Certainly, doubling this traffic will need some doing, but with the levels of investment planned over there, who is to say that it wouldn't be a possibility?

 

[eastwatch]

Well, the current level of road traffic to the NE is about 11 mn tonnes per year (research report by Castalia advisors, post #121). Assuming that 75% of this traffic will shift to B'desh transit (a fair assumption, given the savings in time), then the current traffic levels would be around 8 mn tons per year. Certainly, doubling this traffic will need some doing, but with the levels of investment planned over there, who is to say that it wouldn't be a possibility?

Are you joking? Who is going to open all the BD roads to India's 8mn ton per year traffic? I was talking on the presumption of only one highway 500 km long. Can that road take all the Indian traffic? A dense traffic like 8mn per year means if the average traffic is limited to 10 hours per day, 30 trucks will have to pass every minute, which is a physically impossible figure.

So, the only option that can accomodate such a dense traffic is to build the $7 billion networks of roads, highways, expressways and bridges, someone has proposed in an earlier post.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Errr, what do you suppose is the capacity of a single truck??

Average capacity of a truck has been internationally accepted as 15 tons. So, to carry 8 mn tons per year, it means a traffic of 1500 trucks per day or on an average about 1 truck per minute. Not very congested now, is it?

BTW why would you want to limit the traffic to 10 hours per day?