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Times of Israel Post Calling For Palestinian Genocide

It made me feel sick
absolutely sick

when I saw crocodile tears flowing out of the "Muslims" for the Palestinians as the Israelis started their air strikes.. while these tears were flowing over the "barbarianism" of the "Zionists Jews".... people were being beheaded and shot by ISIS, FSA , AL Nusrah and TTP.... in single day TTP and ISIS has recorded killing 100s of people of either the wrong faith or belonging at the wrong place and wrong time. ISIS alone clocked over 1700 executions witin 48 hours as it accounted itself as a Caliphate and declared that it will demolish Mecca.

But the tears were reserved only for Palestinians. someone got shot in Indian Kashmir over it. In Pakistan Muslims expressed their anger the way they usually do on the side lines burnt Ahemdi people alive for an alleged blasphemy.

I felt sick. over this hypocrisy. where our tears and our condemnation is conditional and depends on who is the victim and who is the accused. I will like to say this that my grief is no more and no less for Palestinians as much as for every innocent life lost due to hatred and fanaticism in Pakistan, Iraq and Syria.

why Israel is doing what it is doing? because it can and it can get away with it and we hardly have any moral authority to stop it from its excessive use of force.

Muslims in general, and Pakistanis in particular, need a total rethink of what they are doing. We have led ourselves into a narrow and dark alleyway from which there is no turning around, unless we stop and back up to rejoin the main highway of the world. However, that does not seem to be happening anytime soon.
 
You are idealist we live in a world with Empires

My friend, the prophets of old were idealists. Abraham, Moses, Samuel, John the Baptist, The Lord Christ, and even the Prophet Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him) were all idealists.

That the Word of God may illumine the hearts and mind of all peoples. All God's Children.

Peace be Upon us All.
 
WTF is wrong with people? We have millions of problems, right here @ home........ why is everyone so interested in some crappy Arab settlement, thousands of miles away........... look at it like this............. out of all the Arabs out there, only 5% maybe in trouble (total)......... yet our hearts bleed and we have to sacrifice precious bandwidth for them desert dwellers (Arabs and Israelis).

Problems Pakistan faces are real and present danger to our survival as one nation. Stop giving sh*t about who kills whom in the Middle East. They've been @ each others throats for more than a millennia, do you people still think that posting 200 threads within a week and giving me nausea would force them to make-out with each other? :D

Dude, in order not to have nausea consider the following:

1. You read what you want. You are not required to read it all. If it makes you nauseous, do not open the threads.
2. There is absolutely nothing wrong with writing about Palestine or caring about people being killed there. Are we not humans.
3. Pakistanis have always voiced their opinion is this matter right along with Quaid-e-Azam. In fact he criticized Zionists for causing trouble years before creation of Pakistan.
4. PDF is an international forum. If we were to start following your recipe, the logical result would be to exclude you too at some point. It is kept open for a purpose.
5. Caring for Palestine has an indirect bearing upon how we handle troubles at home too. It is not necessarily a distraction, ist more an instruction. We could become Palestine in some ways if we do not take care of our country.
6. Arabs are our brothers and it is OK to care for them. Turks are our brothers too. If one were to drop brothers, then why not all of them? Why only one? Get it?
 
Prayers for Peace

from the famous collection of du`as al-Hisn al-Hasin(“The Mighty Fortress”)by Muhammad al-Jazri, may Allah be pleased with himCompleted during the siege of Damascus
20 Dhul Hijjah 791 / 9 December 1389

O Allah, unite our hearts
and set aright our mutual affairs,
guide us in the path of peace.

Liberate us from darkness by Your light,
save us from enormities whether open or hidden.

Bless us in our ears, eyes, hearts, spouses, and children.Turn to us; truly you are Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.

Make us grateful for Your bounty and full of praise for it,
so that we may continue to receive itand complete Your blessings upon us.

Allâhumma allif bayna qulûbinâ
wa aslih dhâta baynina
wahdinâ subûl as-salâm
wa najjinâ min az-zulumâti ilan-nûri
wa janibnâ al-fawâhisha
mâ zahara minhâ wa mâ batana


wa bârik lanâ fî asmâ`inâ wa absârinâ wa qulûbinâ wa azwâjinâ wa dhurriyâtinâwa tub `alaynâ innaka antat-tawwâb ur-rahîm

waj`alnâ shâkirîna li ni`matika
muthnîna bihâ qâbilîhâwa atimmahâ `alaynâ




*

O Allah, I beg of you pardon and safety.

Allâhumma inni as’aluk al-af` wal-`âfiyah

O Allah, I beg of You useful knowledge
and acceptable deeds.

Allâhumma inni as’aluka `ilman nâfi`an
wa `amalan mutaqabbala


O Allah, impart to our earth its blessings,
its embellishment, and its repose.

Allâhumma da` fî ardinâ barakâtahâ
wa zînatahâ wa sakânahâ


*

O Allah, Your forgiveness is vaster than my sins
and Your compassion is more promising than my actions.

Allâhumma maghfiratuka awsa`u min dhunûbi
wa rahmatuka arjâ `indî min `amalî


O Allah, make me patient and grateful to Youand make me look small in my own eyes
and great in the sight of others.

Allâhumm aj`alnî sabûran waj`alnî shakûran
waj`alnî fî `aynî saghîran
wa fî `ayûnin-nâsi kabîra


*

I invoke the perfect words of Allah
from which neither a good person
nor a bad one can escape

for protection against any evil
that may come down from the sky or rise up to it

and any evil that may be planted in the earth
or spring forth from it

against the evil of the tests of the night
and the tests of the day

and the evil of the happenings of night and day
save only the happening that brings good

O Most Beneficent One!

A`ûdhi bi-kalimâti Llâhi tammat illati la yajawizuhunna barrun wa la fâjir

min sharri ma yanzilu min as-samâ’i
wa mâ ya`ruju fîhâ


wa min sharri mâ dharâ’a fil-ardi
wa mâ yakhruju minhâ


wa min sharri fitan il-layli wa fitan in-nahâr

wa min sharri tawâriq il-layli wan-nahâri
illâ târiqan yatruqu bi-khayr


ya rahmân

Amin, O Remover of Difficulties!​
 
Well, everyone know Christians sect always side with Israel (fake Choosen people) to receive more unforgiven sins and bloods after murdering million people daily, God know it, right?

Orthodox Christian Litany of Peace

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For God’s mercy upon us, His unworthy servants, that we may all be protected from hatred and evil actions, that we may have instilled in us unselfish love by which all shall know that we are disciples of Christ and God’s people, as were our holy ancestors, so that we may always know to decide for the truth and righteousness of the Heavenly Kingdom, let us pray to the Lord.

For all those who commit injustice against their neighbors, whether by causing sorrow to orphans or spilling innocent blood or by returning hatred for hatred, that God will grant them repentance, enlighten their minds and hearts and illumine their souls with the light of love even towards their enemies, let us pray to the Lord.

We also pray, O Lord our God, for all those who suffer from acts of war, especially for the victims and all those involved in the struggle in ISRAEL & PALESTINE. We pray for your peace and your mercy in the midst of the great suffering that people are now inflicting on each other. Vouchsafe to accept the prayers of your Church, so that by your goodness peace may return to all peoples, hear us and have mercy on us.

We also pray, O Lord our God, to remember and have mercy on our brothers and sisters in [insert country or region] who are involved in violent conflict. Remove from their midst all hostility, confusion and hatred. Lead everyone along the path of reconciliation and peace, we pray you, hear us and have mercy on us.


AMEN
 
Did you notice the big smiley in front of that particular sentence? :what:

Btw, brothers don't destabilize your country........... I'm very well aware of their treachery....... no they are not our friends......... and if we were to start quoting Quaid, then why not quote hundreds of other things he said..........

Btw, I have noticed you are very active in anything pro-Palestinian - maybe, it's just me!

Dude, in order not to have nausea consider the following:

1. You read what you want. You are not required to read it all. If it makes you nauseous, do not open the threads.
2. There is absolutely nothing wrong with writing about Palestine or caring about people being killed there. Are we not humans.
3. Pakistanis have always voiced their opinion is this matter right along with Quaid-e-Azam. In fact he criticized Zionists for causing trouble years before creation of Pakistan.
4. PDF is an international forum. If we were to start following your recipe, the logical result would be to exclude you too at some point. It is kept open for a purpose.
5. Caring for Palestine has an indirect bearing upon how we handle troubles at home too. It is not necessarily a distraction, ist more an instruction. We could become Palestine in some ways if we do not take care of our country.
6. Arabs are our brothers and it is OK to care for them. Turks are our brothers too. If one were to drop brothers, then why not all of them? Why only one? Get it?
 
WTF is wrong with people? We have millions of problems, right here @ home........ why is everyone so interested in some crappy Arab settlement, thousands of miles away........... look at it like this............. out of all the Arabs out there, only 5% maybe in trouble (total)......... yet our hearts bleed and we have to sacrifice precious bandwidth for them desert dwellers (Arabs and Israelis).

Problems Pakistan faces are real and present danger to our survival as one nation. Stop giving sh*t about who kills whom in the Middle East. They've been @ each others throats for more than a millennia, do you people still think that posting 200 threads within a week and giving me nausea would force them to make-out with each other? :D
Well, the difference between us and the Palestinians is that we do have a homeland, we do have our own gov.t, armed forces, and tremendous resources. Our problems can be easily solved if the Pakistani people get their act together.

Why do we Pakistanis sympathize with the Palestinians? Because they really have no one to defend them. They don't have a home land, and as humans and as Muslims we can't just ignore their plight. Even the least that we can do like spreading information about their struggle and the injustices they face on a daily basis is better than doing nothing because after all we will be held accountable for our negligence on the Day of Judgment.
 
My friend @VelocuR , would that you not pretend to know the Heart and Mind of the Most Merciful Providence.

Let us not judge , for that alone belongs to Providence, who forgives whom he wishes and whom prayers reach.

Thank You.

Remember this, my dear friend and brother:

And seek the forgiveness of Allah, certainly, Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #106)

And whoever does evil or wrongs himself but afterwards seeks Allah's forgiveness, he will find Allah Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #110)

Nearly the heavens might be rent asunder from above them (by His Majesty): and the angels glorify the praises of their Lord, and ask for forgiveness for those on the earth. Verily, Allah is the Oft-Forgiving, the Most Merciful.
( سورة الشورى , Ash-Shura, Chapter #42, Verse #5)

So glorify the Praises of your Lord, and ask His forgiveness. Verily, He is the One Who accepts the repentance and Who forgives.
( سورة النصر , An-Nasr, Chapter #110, Verse #3)

To God be Glory.
 
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If and only if we start focussing on our own problems we have the ability to overcome anything........ yet we focus on anything but ourselves........

Here, something for you to digest what @Irfan Baloch wrote earlier:


It made me feel sick
absolutely sick

when I saw crocodile tears flowing out of the "Muslims" for the Palestinians as the Israelis started their air strikes.. while these tears were flowing over the "barbarianism" of the "Zionists Jews".... people were being beheaded and shot by ISIS, FSA , AL Nusrah and TTP.... in single day TTP and ISIS has recorded killing 100s of people of either the wrong faith or belonging at the wrong place and wrong time. ISIS alone clocked over 1700 executions witin 48 hours as it accounted itself as a Caliphate and declared that it will demolish Mecca.

But the tears were reserved only for Palestinians. someone got shot in Indian Kashmir over it. In Pakistan Muslims expressed their anger the way they usually do on the side lines burnt Ahemdi people alive for an alleged blasphemy.

I felt sick. over this hypocrisy. where our tears and our condemnation is conditional and depends on who is the victim and who is the accused. I will like to say this that my grief is no more and no less for Palestinians as much as for every innocent life lost due to hatred and fanaticism in Pakistan, Iraq and Syria.

why Israel is doing what it is doing? because it can and it can get away with it and we hardly have any moral authority to stop it from its excessive use of force.






Well, the difference between us and the Palestinians is that we do have a homeland, we do have our own gov.t, armed forces, and tremendous resources. Our problems can be easily solved if the Pakistani people get their act together.

Why do we Pakistanis sympathize with the Palestinians? Because they really have no one to defend them. They don't have a home land, and as humans and as Muslims we can't just ignore their plight. Even the least that we can do like spreading information about their struggle and the injustices they face on a daily basis is better than doing nothing because after all we will be held accountable for our negligence on the Day of Judgment.
 
If and only if we start focussing on our own problems we have the ability to overcome anything........ yet we focus on anything but ourselves........
We can do that too while posting information on Palestine on a defence forum.
 
Below is what he wrote. He is young and obviously doesn't speak for Israel, the USA, Jews or anyone but himself. He doesn't even answer the question that he raises. The same question he raises to his people could be raised to Hamas. I don't think he, or many of the posters here at PDF, even know what genocide is. The best current example of genocide is being carried out by ISIS against Christians and other non-Sunni minorities wherever ISIS has taken power. My answer: "Genocide" is never permissible.
Reprint of Yochanan Gordon’s “When Genocide is Permissible” (Updated)

When Genocide is Permissible by Yochanan Gordon

Judging by the numbers of casualties on both sides in this almost one-month old war one would be led to the conclusion that Israel has resorted to disproportionate means in fighting a far less- capable enemy. That is as far as what meets the eye. But, it’s now obvious that the US and the UN are completely out of touch with the nature of this foe and are therefore not qualified to dictate or enforce the rules of this war – because when it comes to terror there is much more than meets the eye.

I wasn’t aware of this, but it seems that the nature of warfare has undergone a major shift over the years. Where wars were usually waged to defeat the opposing side, today it seems – and judging by the number of foul calls it would indicate – that today’s wars are fought to a draw. I mean, whoever heard of a timeout in war? An NBA Basketball game allows six timeouts for each team during the course of a game, but last I checked this is a war! We are at war with an enemy whose charter calls for the annihilation of our people. Nothing, then, can be considered disproportionate when we are fighting for our very right to live.

The sad reality is that Israel gets it, but its hands are being tied by world leaders who over the past six years have insisted they are such good friends with the Jewish state, that they know more regarding its interests than even they do. But there’s going to have to come a time where Israel feels threatened enough where it has no other choice but to defy international warnings – because this is life or death.

Most of the reports coming from Gazan officials and leaders since the start of this operation have been either largely exaggerated or patently false. The truth is, it’s not their fault, falsehood and deceit is part of the very fabric of who they are and that will never change. Still however, despite their propensity to lie, when your enemy tells you that they are bent on your destruction you believe them. Similarly, when Khaled Meshal declares that no physical damage to Gaza will dampen their morale or weaken their resolve – they have to be believed. Our sage Gedalia the son of Achikam was given intelligence that Yishmael Ben Nesanyah was plotting to kill him. However, in his piety or rather naiveté Gedalia dismissed the report as a random act of gossip and paid no attention to it. To this day, the day following Rosh Hashana is commemorated as a fast day in the memory of Gedalia who was killed in cold blood on the second day of Rosh Hashana during the meal. They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over. History is there to teach us lessons and the lesson here is that when your enemy swears to destroy you – you take him seriously.

Hamas has stated forthrightly that it idealizes death as much as Israel celebrates life. What other way then is there to deal with an enemy of this nature other than obliterate them completely?

News anchors such as those from CNN, BBC and Al-Jazeera have not missed an opportunity to point out the majority of innocent civilians who have lost their lives as a result of this war. But anyone who lives with rocket launchers installed or terror tunnels burrowed in or around the vicinity of their home cannot be considered an innocent civilian. If you’ll counter, that Hamas has been seen abusing civilians who have attempted to leave their homes in response to Israeli warnings to leave – well then, your beginning to come to terms with the nature of this enemy which should automatically cause the rules of standard warfare to be suspended.

Everyone agrees that Israel has the right to defend itself as well as the right to exercise that right. Secretary General Ban Ki Moon has declared it, Obama and Kerry have clearly stated that no one could be expected to sit idle as thousands of rockets rain down on the heads of its citizens, placing them in clear and present danger. It seems then that the only point of contention is regarding the measure of punishment meted out in this situation.

I will conclude with a question for all the humanitarians out there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?

Reprint of Yochanan Gordon's "When Genocide is Permissible"





ISIS's primary target are Sunnis opposing them, not just the non-Sunni minorities. Likewise TTP has been killing mostly Sunnis in Pakistan. TTP is the ISIS version in Pakistan
 
It made me feel sick


But the tears were reserved only for Palestinians.

I felt sick. over this hypocrisy.

why Israel is doing what it is doing? because it can and it can get away with it and we hardly have any moral authority to stop it from its excessive use of force.

This is not hypocrisy. I will clear the misunderstanding.

The cause of Palestinians is a separate issue. ISIS/TTP are separate issues.

The Maliki Twelver Shia government retaliated with the murder of 300+ Sunni young men in and around Baghdad in one day. Then in the following week they followed by killing a further hundreds of Sunni men. These are tribal people, university graduates, or farmers, who supported the Sunni uprising [ not ISIS] against the oppressive shia government in Iraq. The kurds know about this being Sunni themselves.

Brothers here on PDF do not know about what is happening in Iraq. @Hyperion said Iraq is overwhelming Sha, when it is the opposite case

The Maliki Shia government has been killing dozens of Sunnis in Fallujah every day by airstrikes, but the news never reports it. However, the deaths of these Sunnis are recorded on the Iraqi Body Count website. Take a look at the past few years, and most of the deaths recorded are of Sunnis in Iraq.

What is happening in Iraq, Syria, and Palestine is a Sunni genocide, either at the hands of the jewish people, or bashar or Lebanon/Iraqi shia hezbullat/ Maliki or ISIS. Its not civil wars.
 
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