[TIME] What Indonesia Can Teach Thailand and Egypt About Democracy

[aliaselin]

The essence of democracy is to let everyone voice their opinions~ whether it leads to the society for worse or better is fully on the hand of the peoples. At least you could have 5 year cycle for restarting, that means perpetual hope for the better future and reform.

If you have authoritatian state~ what would you have? You live in lottery ticket that span for your whole life. Get a good leader with determination to improve and manage your country well~ you hit the jackpot. Get a badass leader like Mugabe and Kim Jong Il, you live your life like a sh*t. How long have North Korean wait? Maybe for the lifetime of Kim Jong Il they have hoped for a change/reform like China. Alas! His son was no more better! Better wait for another 60 years to reform.

Do you have any research on Thai's politics? Yingluck shinawatra is elected by the Thai people, but Suthep Thaugsuba just protested and wanted to be prime minister without election. So yeah, everybody can have their voice, but anything resolved? NO!
Because the elective government is not authoritative and have no power. When common people have power? Not through speaking with their voice, and the elites do not hear your voice or they pretend not, but through revolution. Oh, the western media call it communism, and it is not good
Do not use "at least" words; this is the lamest excuse I have seen. Can your "at least" really settle the problem? No. Then what your "at least" can do?

 

[Aepsilons]

Aquino: Anti-corruption program now bearing fruits

By Doris C. Dumlao Philippine Daily Inquirer

DAVOS, Switzerland—What started as a presidential campaign battlecry is now unlocking the Philippines’ potential to fast-track economic growth, attract more investors and rekindle optimism among its citizens. President Benigno Aquino spoke to the World Economic Forum about his administration’s anti-corruption efforts which he vowed to institutionalize into an “enduring mainstream of progress rather a mere blip in the radar and a case study for failed expectations.”

And while the President acknowledged that the work to uplift the lives of his poor countrymen was “far from over,” he said the fight against corruption has so far yielded positive results for the economy, in turn benefiting not only the rich, but the majority of the people.

“We want our people to come to expect more from their government; we want to prove that their mandate, given freely during elections, counts for something,” Aquino said.

The President spoke on Thursday night before a private session linked to WEF’s anti-corruption initiative through a multi-sectoral group called “Partnering Against Corruption Initiative.” It was a closed-door session that also included the chief of state of Mongolia, the prime minister of Peru and a member of the Indian Parliament.

In discussing recent initiatives, Mr. Aquino said there was “rampant corruption” in the government when he first assumed office in 2010, alluding to the rice importation binge of the National Food Authority and anomalous road projects under the Department of Public Works and Highways.

He also cited the impeachment of former Supreme Court Justice Renato Corona for the non-disclosure of the bulk of his wealth.

A copy of the President’s speech was released after the private session, which was attended by a select group of 50 people, mostly chief executive officers of corporations. Communications Secretary Ramon Carandang also briefed visiting Philippine media about the anti-corruption session and released a copy of the President’s opening remarks.

“What brought everybody together was that you had governments that were taking concrete steps and they were willing to share what they learned,” Carandang said.

“I think this is good because… when they hear straight from the leaders about what they are doing to fight corruption, I think it helps instil confidence in them because every one of those people was a potential investor in our country. So when you explain all these things to them, they sometimes act a little surprised because some of the moves that we’ve taken are quite bold. So, I think, it creates a good impression of not just the leadership but the country in general,” he added.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The minority can overthrow the democratically elected government by the majority, this kind of democracy is nothing but a big joke.

It is not about who is more democratic, it is about the most pro-US one will stay in power regardless it is not democratic or not.

 

[aliaselin]

Aquino: Anti-corruption program now bearing fruits

By Doris C. Dumlao Philippine Daily Inquirer

DAVOS, Switzerland—What started as a presidential campaign battlecry is now unlocking the Philippines’ potential to fast-track economic growth, attract more investors and rekindle optimism among its citizens. President Benigno Aquino spoke to the World Economic Forum about his administration’s anti-corruption efforts which he vowed to institutionalize into an “enduring mainstream of progress rather a mere blip in the radar and a case study for failed expectations.”

And while the President acknowledged that the work to uplift the lives of his poor countrymen was “far from over,” he said the fight against corruption has so far yielded positive results for the economy, in turn benefiting not only the rich, but the majority of the people.

“We want our people to come to expect more from their government; we want to prove that their mandate, given freely during elections, counts for something,” Aquino said.

The President spoke on Thursday night before a private session linked to WEF’s anti-corruption initiative through a multi-sectoral group called “Partnering Against Corruption Initiative.” It was a closed-door session that also included the chief of state of Mongolia, the prime minister of Peru and a member of the Indian Parliament.

In discussing recent initiatives, Mr. Aquino said there was “rampant corruption” in the government when he first assumed office in 2010, alluding to the rice importation binge of the National Food Authority and anomalous road projects under the Department of Public Works and Highways.

He also cited the impeachment of former Supreme Court Justice Renato Corona for the non-disclosure of the bulk of his wealth.

A copy of the President’s speech was released after the private session, which was attended by a select group of 50 people, mostly chief executive officers of corporations. Communications Secretary Ramon Carandang also briefed visiting Philippine media about the anti-corruption session and released a copy of the President’s opening remarks.

“What brought everybody together was that you had governments that were taking concrete steps and they were willing to share what they learned,” Carandang said.

“I think this is good because… when they hear straight from the leaders about what they are doing to fight corruption, I think it helps instil confidence in them because every one of those people was a potential investor in our country. So when you explain all these things to them, they sometimes act a little surprised because some of the moves that we’ve taken are quite bold. So, I think, it creates a good impression of not just the leadership but the country in general,” he added.

You cite the politician propoganda to say themselves are innocent and clean-fingered？you are so cute. I think Marcos defended himself in the same way

 

[Maxtini]

Do you have any research on Thai's politics? Yingluck shinawatra is elected by the Thai people, but Suthep Thaugsuba just protested and wanted to be prime minister without election. So yeah, everybody can have their voice, but anything resolved? NO!
Because the elective government is not authoritative and have no power. When common people have power? Not through speaking with their voice, and the elites do not hear your voice or they pretend not, but through revolution. Oh, the western media call it communism, and it is not good
Do not use "at least" words; this is the lamest excuse I have seen. Can your "at least" really settle the problem? No. Then what your "at least" can do?

That is Thai's problem~ whether it will lead to better or worse is in their own hand. Time will eventually settle everything~

Do you prefer a perpetual chance of hope or gamble your life to have a badass leader like Kim Jong Il or Mugabe with no chance of seeing any reform?

 

[aliaselin]

That is Thai's problem~ whether it will lead to better or worse is in their own hand. Time will eventually settle everything~

Do you prefer a perpetual chance of hope or gamble your life to have a badass leader like Kim Jong Il or Mugabe with no chance of seeing any reform?

If it is in their own hand, then Yingluck shinawatra is still the prime minister, but what is the truth? Election does not endow power spontaneously.

 

[Aepsilons]

You cite the politician propoganda to say themselves are innocent and clean-fingered？you are so cute. I think Marcos defended himself in the same way

His policies are actually , considering the Arroyo administration before his was rampant with corruption, a breath of fresh air to the Philippines. Under his (Aquino) watch, the Philippines sacked a chief justice who was corrupt, and now filing charges for graft and corruption for senators that are linked to their pork barrel scam. These pro-transparency actions by the Philippines leads to investor confidence ! You bet there will be increased Japanese and Filipino interaction in matters of trade and strategic interoperability.

ps. yes, i know i'm cute. i get told that a lot. ha ha

 

[aliaselin]

His policies are actually , considering the Arroyo administration before his was rampant with corruption, a breath of fresh air to the Philippines. Under his (Aquino) watch, the Philippines sacked a chief justice who was corrupt, and now filing charges for graft and corruption for senators that are linked to their pork barrel scam. These pro-transparency actions by the Philippines leads to investor confidence ! You bet there will be increased Japanese and Filipino interaction in matters of trade and strategic interoperability.

ps. yes, i know i'm cute. i get told that a lot. ha ha

So finally Florencio Abad involved in corruption scandal last week, and Aquino said his Budget Secretary is innocent even before investigation

 

[Aepsilons]

So finally Florencio Abad involved in corruption scandal last week, and Aquino said his Budget Secretary is innocent even before investigation

The corruption level in China is unprecedented. You should not be laughing at all.

 

[dlclong]

The corruption level in China is unprecedented. You should not be laughing at all.

what is“unprecedented.”？

 

[Aepsilons]

what is“unprecedented.”？

I leave that for you to ascertain.

 

[aliaselin]

The corruption level in China is unprecedented. You should not be laughing at all.

So things in China prove your point?

 

[Nike]

Well i am quite flattering to see how much media give us their attention. At least, more than fifteen years ago they expect us to be like of Yugoslavia.

 

[Aepsilons]

Well i am quite flattering to see how much media give us their attention. At least, more than fifteen years ago they expect us to be like of Yugoslavia.

Nice to meet you here, beautiful lady.

 

[kalu_miah]

Nice to meet you here, beautiful lady.

I heard one of her grandparents is Japanese.