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[masterchief_mirza]

That "short lived" comeback crushed Muslim rule in the subcontinent forever and lasted for nearly half a century (47 years) till the Brits took over the sub-continent.

No Muslim power center.

Only Hindu.

Which is what I begun by saying here in the first place.

Cheers, Doc

Rabbles of Hindu kshatriyas with their families, concubines and servants in tow, and your "local hand-me-down historians" have these people as world beaters. Maratha empires nestled neatly into a power vacuum created by Muslim empires draining each other, and you perpetuate the myth of Maratha super heroes driving away all other "foreigners" under a Hindu banner.

Let's not get into the details of supposed Maratha Hindu domination, which actually pitted multi-religious armies against one another for worldly gains, rather than some abstract religious objective. Never mind that but let's simply focus on the grim reality that until Muslims had drained other Muslims of imperial might, and admittedly Sikhs too had played their role under Ranjit Singh and others, the marathas were a disorganised rabble who threw waves of humans (military and non-military alike) into great voids across the subcontinent to keep a few seats warm until the British arrived.

The mighty marathas couldn't even subdue Tipu without British help, never mind hordes of rampaging afghans and mughals on horseback.

 

[padamchen]

Can you stop being a racist, hate-mongering bigot?

That gets pretty annoying for many, even if some of us get some amusement out of it, like liberals listening to the deluded rants of Right Wing talk radio.

You want completely sterile Islam-congruent politically correct talk here only?

You do not want to entertain the notion that some people do not like you or what you like or love?

Can we not be non abusive but honest in our exchange here?

Do you know I was banned because someone told me to stop being a cunt and I replied that it was just one army c*nt replying to another army c*nt.

The Pakistani who used the full form of cunt got away scott free.

And I got a 2 week ban.

So no, there was nothing racist or hate mongering in what I said that got me a ban.

I just got a ban because there is a small minded mod who cannot handle me in an open debate in front of others here. Because he is likely challenged by education and vocabulary, and in all probability social class.

Cheers, Doc

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You want completely sterile Islam-congruent politically correct talk here only?

You do not want to entertain the notion that some people do not like you or what you like or love?

Can we not be non abusive but honest in our exchange here?

Do you know I was banned because someone told me to stop being a cunt and I replied that it was just one army c*nt replying to another army c*nt.

The Pakistani who used the full form of cunt got away scott free.

And I got a 2 week ban.

So no, there was nothing racist or hate mongering in what I said that got me a ban.

I just got a ban because there is a small minded mod who cannot handle me in an open debate in front of others here. Because he is likely challenged by education and vocabulary, and in all probability social class.

Cheers, Doc

We don't want racist or derogatory rants against any faith, culture, ethnicity etc.

Snide, underhanded belittling & insults don't go unnoticed either.

I have issued warnings to many, many Pakistani posters for engaging in such behavior when it comes to Hindus, Jews, Shia, Sunni, Wahabi or Ahmadis, so I have no sympathy for you either.

You're talking to the wrong person if you think the 'X did it so I should be allowed to do it too' argument will have any sway.

 

[padamchen]

We don't want racist or derogatory rants against any faith, culture, ethnicity etc.

Snide, underhanded belittling & insults don't go unnoticed either.

I have issued warnings to many, many Pakistani posters for engaging in such behavior when it comes to Hindus, Jews, Shia, Sunni, Wahabi or Ahmadis, so I have no sympathy for you either.

You're talking to the wrong person if you think the 'X did it so I should be allowed to do it too' argument will have any sway.

So in spite of our runins over the years I trust you as a fair man.

I trust @waz

I trust @SQ8

I trust @Irfan Baloch

The others I do not know, and I might have been guilty of rubbing badly by my inability to give them the respect and deference they feel their internet forum designation in this small corner of the cyber world should afford them.

Guilty.

May I therefore request that since I genuinely feel this has resulted in my being targeted by these noob mods,would it be possible for all reports related to my posts to only be tackled by the 4 of you?

I promise and swear on the holy Atash that I will abide by your decision without demur.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Srinivas]

One where a tamil has no connection with a Kashmiri except for an imperial project.

Pakistanis are bully's and victims at the same time, is your narrative. The highlighted part, this is same across all nations. The same connection exists between Manchurians and Honkongers, the same connection exists between Sicilians and Northern Italians. The same connection exists between siberians and Moscowers.

 

[Valiant]

Pakistanis are bully's and victims at the same time, is your narrative. The highlighted part, this is same across all nations. The same connection exists between Manchurians and Honkongers, the same connection exists between Sicilians and Northern Italians. The same connection exists between siberians and Moscowers.

I'm sorry, a country of a billion people elected a genocidal maniac because "Hindu khatre main hein".

Isn't that the height of hypocrisy and victimhood?

 

[Srinivas]

I'm sorry, a country of a billion people elected a genocidal maniac because "Hindu khatre main hein".

Isn't that the height of hypocrisy and victimhood?

people elected BJP because they believed BJP can deliver on the promises.

majority of the voters are pro development.

what about you? Your heroes are central Asian turks who are killers and done genocide in India.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Pakistanis are bully's and victims at the same time, is your narrative. The highlighted part, this is same across all nations. The same connection exists between Manchurians and Honkongers, the same connection exists between Sicilians and Northern Italians. The same connection exists between siberians and Moscowers.

Mumbo-jumbo!
Do it once over, be coherent and do tell me what you actually understood from my quoted statement. Perhaps some insights on your wiring will give me a better clue...
deductions you extrapolate.

 

[padamchen]

I'm sorry, a country of a billion people elected a genocidal maniac because "Hindu khatre main hein".

Isn't that the height of hypocrisy and victimhood?

No the height of hypocrisy and victimhood is a Pakistani crying about Hindutva's Dharam khatre mein when his own nation was borne out of Islam khatre mein.

Cheers, Doc

 

[colonel rajesh]

Rabbles of Hindu kshatriyas with their families, concubines and servants in tow, and your "local hand-me-down historians" have these people as world beaters. Maratha empires nestled neatly into a power vacuum created by Muslim empires draining each other, and you perpetuate the myth of Maratha super heroes driving away all other "foreigners" under a Hindu banner.

Let's not get into the details of supposed Maratha Hindu domination, which actually pitted multi-religious armies against one another for worldly gains, rather than some abstract religious objective. Never mind that but let's simply focus on the grim reality that until Muslims had drained other Muslims of imperial might, and admittedly Sikhs too had played their role under Ranjit Singh and others, the marathas were a disorganised rabble who threw waves of humans (military and non-military alike) into great voids across the subcontinent to keep a few seats warm until the British arrived.

The mighty marathas couldn't even subdue Tipu without British help, never mind hordes of rampaging afghans and mughals on horseback.

hindu rashtra is here . we removed muslim rule from india .

 

[Srinivas]

hindu rashtra is here . we removed muslim rule from india .

Mongol rule or you can say mongolized Turkic rule.

 

[colonel rajesh]

Mongol rule or you can say mongolized Turkic rule.

yes you are right .

 

[padamchen]

Rabbles of Hindu kshatriyas with their families, concubines and servants in tow, and your "local hand-me-down historians" have these people as world beaters. Maratha empires nestled neatly into a power vacuum created by Muslim empires draining each other, and you perpetuate the myth of Maratha super heroes driving away all other "foreigners" under a Hindu banner.

Let's not get into the details of supposed Maratha Hindu domination, which actually pitted multi-religious armies against one another for worldly gains, rather than some abstract religious objective. Never mind that but let's simply focus on the grim reality that until Muslims had drained other Muslims of imperial might, and admittedly Sikhs too had played their role under Ranjit Singh and others, the marathas were a disorganised rabble who threw waves of humans (military and non-military alike) into great voids across the subcontinent to keep a few seats warm until the British arrived.

The mighty marathas couldn't even subdue Tipu without British help, never mind hordes of rampaging afghans and mughals on horseback.

Aside from the spin doctoring of facts (yes, some of our fiercest and most loyal warriors were local son of the soil Muslims) and hypotheses (power vacuum, green on green war fatigue), the real facts

1) The British usurped power on the subcontinent for overall control from .... the Marathas.

2) The Marathas were and continue to this day to be .... very militant Hindus.

It was a war against injustice against and oppression of the native culture and way of life.

Which was Hindu.

The fact that Muslims and Parsis joined that fight should tell you that it was not a religious fight, but one for native rule and rights.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Avatar]

And the cost of Peace .... ???

Why only one side bear the cost and Peace ..... ???

Why only One side shoulder the burden of Peace .... ???

There is ONLY ONE Peaceful solution of Kashmir which is the implementation of UN resolution avoid this and try to resolve issue of Kashmir by any other way it will only lead towards more disputes and war or war like situation.



Question is How .... ??

My dear IF they can't resolve it now as per the wishes of people of Kashmir then they should leave it as it is rather create more mess. Just don't try to get Kashmir dispute resolved from the 'Position of Weakness'

Then drag on the fighting until we return to being cave men.

 

[Rakesh]

So in spite of our runins over the years I trust you as a fair man.

I trust @waz

I trust @SQ8

I trust @Irfan Baloch

The others I do not know, and I might have been guilty of rubbing badly by my inability to give them the respect and deference they feel their internet forum designation in this small corner of the cyber world should afford them.

Guilty.

May I therefore request that since I genuinely feel this has resulted in my being targeted by these noob mods,would it be possible for all reports related to my posts to only be tackled by the 4 of you?

I promise and swear on the holy Atash that I will abide by your decision without demur.

Cheers, Doc

Agno is veteran. It was pleasure to read his detailed discussions. Now, probably he is aging