Featured Time to bury the past and move forward: COAS Bajwa

[chauvunist]

Such statements should come from Civilian Officials (if they are to be issued anyway)...Coming from COAS or other Armed forces officials will be taken as a sign of weakness..

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Such statements should come from Civilian Officials (if they are to be issued anyway)...Coming from COAS or other Armed forces officials will be taken as a sign of weakness..

The Prime Minister, Foreign Minister and the National Security Advisor have all issued similar statements repeatedly.

And all sides have made clear that rapprochement and peace is conditional to India taking steps in J&K.

Let's see if India takes any steps to reverse what it is doing in J&K.

 

[HAIDER]

Kashmir remain the issue. Can't bury.

 

[chauvunist]

The Prime Minister, Foreign Minister and the National Security Advisor have all issued similar statements repeatedly.

And all sides have made clear that rapprochement and peace is conditional to India taking steps in J&K.

Let's see if India takes any steps to reverse what it is doing in J&K.

And that should have been sufficient IMHO..

Though I don't have any problem with rapproachment, but in case of India,it's like going in circles and such statements serve no purpose other than blinking first in the stare contest..

 

[HAIDER]

Such statements should come from Civilian Officials (if they are to be issued anyway)...Coming from COAS or other Armed forces officials will be taken as a sign of weakness..

Here is reason , this statement is message for Biden administration on Kashmir issue, not for Indians. Plus, this statement reflects that PA and democratic govt on same page and for the peace in the region. India wants to listen what COAS say instead of PM, an old habits.
Basically, COAS message for regional and international listeners and also for those "who don't want to listen" .
If not then ...

 

[doorstar]

Question is why? Why another offer for peace? Why sound so desperate? They haven't offered even once and we are offering again and again. WHY?

forgive me but are you a taliban type jihadi or an indian type braggart?

second most powerful country namely China keeps offering peace to bharat yet on the quiet keeps pummeling it.

top most strong country in the world keeps preaching peace yet is on a murderous rampage all over mid-east in the name of "self-defense". has killed almost every living thing in afghanistan yet is pretending to find a peaceful way out because teletubbies are "winning"

 

[SQ8]

I thought they made that clear - move forward by resolving the Kashmir dispute, and the onus is on India to take the first steps on that.

Beautifully articulated by Bajwa.

Nice to have an intellectual as a COAS, who can think about national security beyond the confines of military power and deterrence alone.

Really? Because burying the past also requires resolving the Jammu & Kashmir dispute, which was clearly pointed to in Bajwa's speech, and requires India to take the first steps.

How many Indians support that?

I think the word peace has the gravitas which has everyone ignoring the nuance in it and jumping to conclusions. I also say it speaks to our national character for hue and cry at the slightest change to our tradition even if it is a positive change seen by ANY measure of state maturity.

It also is a great external image message in that Pakistan wants PEACE .
but.. India needs to make the first step and resolve the Kashmir issue and undo its August steps along with holding plebiscite.
Until then, 2MT of thermonuclear weapons will continue to sit at alert levels against just the city of Dehli.

 

[thesolar65]

Seems "Daal mein kuch kala hai"!

 

[mudas777]

I have a feeling, that pakistan has put conditions on Afghan peace efforts by keeping india out of Afghanistan and keeping Kashmir in the loop. After that giving access to india to central asia.

may be thats why LoC is quite. i hope peace prevails and the people of the region can work towards stronger economic growth.

Economic growth by throwing Kashmiri down the pit is only going to bring more instability. Who ever drawn the map of Kurds thought the same and they were under the impression things just go away and that instability still exists. Short term gain and long term pain will do wonder for both the countries. There are rights and wrongs and there is an agreement exists and solution agreed by the UN resolutions and sooner India Honours it and so we all move on. One can only bury someone when someone passes away or something is resolved how can you bury living, alive and kicking Kashmiri's.
China can encourage as much as they like but can't decide for the future of the Kashmiri people destiny as its not their place to decide and in life not everything is business. If Bajwa is hinting at removal of article 370 as the first step it may be welcome first step but we are asking for the last step which is implementation of UN resolutions, Kashmiri rights and self determination, so once for all peace prevails.

 

[HAIDER]

I think the word peace has the gravitas which has everyone ignoring the nuance in it and jumping to conclusions. I also say it speaks to our national character for hue and cry at the slightest change to our tradition even if it is a positive change seen by ANY measure of state maturity.

It also is a great external image message in that Pakistan wants PEACE .
but.. India needs to make the first step and resolve the Kashmir issue and undo its August steps along with holding plebiscite.
Until then, 2MT of thermonuclear weapons will continue to sit at alert levels against just the city of Dehli.

Some nations think, talking peace is the sign of weakness .... but postures and gestures send different message ...

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

And that should have been sufficient IMHO..

Though I don't have any problem with rapproachment, but in case of India,it's like going in circles and such statements serve no purpose other than blinking first in the stare contest..

We haven't blinked - we've told them that if they want peace or even dialog towards peace, they need to take the first step and bring about changes in Indian Occupied Kashmir.

What do you think the Indians are going to do in IoK? Will Modi backtrack on ANY of the changes he's brought into IoK?

If India doesn't do anything, then Pakistan can say it tried & it is Indian intransigence that keeps destroying the possibility for peace.

 

[Norwegian]

after all , nawaz was very wise enough to choose a docile general

It doesn't matter. He also chose Raheel Sharif. It was Modis election campaign promise to annex occupied Kashmir. Nothing to do with Pakistani politics.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Such naivete... such euphoria...
Rashtra egging on pseudo history and Indian vedic grandstanding will not just melt away by cajoling, kowtowing and appeasement. The majoritarian dream and imperial state of India and it's behavior are resultant factors, ones deeply embedded in the state psyche. One where a tamil has no connection with a Kashmiri except for an imperial project.
The Indian mindset has been carefully crafted to a narrative that establishes Pakistan as a breakaway region of grand India, which then assumes other regions subsequently. This mindset does not accept why parting Brits broke away their empire or colony, it instead owns the British conquest and empire as a mere stepping stone to some bygone glory, something to impress upon.

Here is the difference between the eye of sheep and a carnivore sizing it's prey and poised to pounce. Except, India has never been an animal of prey, they crafted it, imported the instinct. It is no wonder that India has ever expanded '47 onwards and Pakistan only receded.

It's in the eye!

 

[Verve]

This message was not for India or the idiotic Pakistanis who have got some warped minds. It's for the world at large that Pakistan wants peaceful resolution of Kashmir issue and it is for India to step forward, not us!

 

[IceCold]

Imran Khan essentially said the same thing, so did Shah Mehmood Qureshi, and both of them also reiterated the need for the Jammu & Kashmir dispute to be resolved per the UNSC Resolutions via plebiscite.

SMQ also called out India for its demographic genocide, atrocities and occupation.

All of these guys are politicians who job is to make statements like these but not the army chief. If you cant figure the difference between the roles of two very different portfolios than nothing i will say can make you understand.
Whatever context he said, this isnt the first time. There are instances where he reiterated similar sentiments which sends the wrong signal to the people who otherwise are looking to a pick a fight with Pakistan. Its not Gen Bajwa's domain or the portfolio of his job to express sentiments like these. Period! The fact that he does and on numerous occasions show the prevalent mindset of the higherups of an otherwise professional institution whose ancestors fought to liberate part of Kashmir.