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‘Tibet Card’ Added to India-China Border Mix as Tibetan Flag Is Hoisted at Pang Gong Lake

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Tibet will become a free nation, Insha'Allah.
The peaceful Tibet people have nothing in common with Chinese people and deserve their independence.
Rightly, they are fighting back and India must back them in every way.
In terms of border issue, if and when China makes a play at the border, Tibet people are ready to back India and teach the invading Chinese a lesson they will never forget.

https://thewire.in/155657/lobsang-sangay-central-tibetan-administration-tibet-flag-india-china/

New Delhi: Even as the stand-off between Indian and Chinese soldiers continues in one part of the Himalayas, Lobsang Sangay, head of the Tibetan government-in-exile, unfurled the Tibetan national flag on the shores of Pang Gong lake in Ladakh.

The lake, located at over 14,000 feet, sits astride India and China, with the Line of Actual Control passing through it.

Speaking to The Wire, Sonam Norbu Dagpo, spokesperson of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), said that this was the first time the independent Tibet flag had been unfurled by the head of the government-in-exile at that important location.

“This is the first visit by the CTA president to Ladakh and, therefore, the first time that the national flag has been unfurled near the lake,” he said.

Dagpo pointed out that the location has special meaning for the Tibetan community. “As you know, half the lake is in India, and half the Tibet,” he added. Consequently, he said that the hoisting of the national flag has “political and personal significance”.

In fact, the official Indian position is that the area is part of Jammu and Kashmir, India, and not a part of Tibet/China.

When asked if any go-ahead signal was taken from the Indian authorities, Dagpo asserted, “I don’t think any permission is required to hoist the Tibetan national flag”.

Sangay was in Ladakh on the invitation of the Ladakhi community to celebrate the birthday of the Dalai Lama on July 6, Dagpo added.

According to a report on the lake shore ceremony published on the CTA website, Sangay had a brief audience with the Dalai Lama before leaving for the lake on the morning of July 5.

The report noted that Sangay poured “blessed grains” received from the Dalai Lama into the lake in the hope that “these grains will reach Tibet and bless Tibetans inside Tibet as well”.

“Physically, I may be standing just a few meters from Tibet today. However, in terms of political freedom and views, I am still far away from the situation inside Tibet,” Sangay said, according to the report.

Speaking to The Wire, a former MEA secretary, R.S. Kalha said, “The unfurling of the Tibetan flag [at Pang Gong] is a political act, especially at this time”.

For the last 22 days, Indian and Chinese soldiers have been watching each other warily on a clearing called the ‘Turning Point’ in Doklam. Indian soldiers had stopped Chinese soldiers from constructing a road within Bhutanese territory, which would have serious security implications for the tri-junction and the ‘chicken neck’ Siliguri corridor.

China has been on a media blitzkrieg claiming that India violated a 1890 treaty and asserting that Indian soldiers were on Chinese territory. India and Bhutan have both said that China had changed the status-quo by building a road and asked it to return to the previous position.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping had a five-minute conversation on Friday on the sidelines of a meeting of BRICS leaders gathered in Hamburg for the G20 summit. However, no details were given of the “wide range of issues” discussed.

Meanwhile, even as the two leaders met in Hamburg, the Chinese embassy in India issued an advisory for its nationals to “pay close attention to personal safety”.

The Observer Research Foundation’s Manoj Joshi agreed that the flag hoisting by Sangay “assumes importance due to the timing”. “This is a very significant gesture, given that it has happened for the first time at this location which has emotional and political symbolism.”

Both Kalha and Joshi pointed out that the flag was hoisted on Indian territory, which could be interpreted as political activity by the Tibetan exiles, something the Indian government has officially frowned upon in the past.

A former Indian diplomat, who has been a practitioner in India-China bilateral ties, claimed that it was unlikely that India would have “encouraged” Sangay to go to the lake. “So far, I do not see any signs of the Indian government interested in escalating the issue,” said the diplomat, who did not want to be named. He also pointed to the Indian statement on the Doklam stand-off, which he said was “very measured and sober”.

Joshi asserted that the NDA government has a history of trying to play up the Tibet issue. “Ever since this government took office, it has given more visibility to the Tibetan cause, right from swearing-in day. This has not gone unnoticed in Beijing,” he said.

When Modi was sworn in as prime minister, Sangay was among the special invitees in the audience, sitting right next to then Uttar Pradesh chief minister Akhilesh Yadav. Sangay’s presence led to speculation of new government policy on Tibet. Sangay’s presence didn’t go unnoticed, with China lodging a protest. A few months later, Modi and Xi were sitting together on a swing alongside the river Sabarmati – but that was probably the biggest high in India-China bilateral relations till now.

In April 2016, India allowed a US-based Chinese dissident organisation to organise a seminar of pro-democracy activists in Dharamshala, but later cancelled the visa of an Uighur activist on the grounds that he gave wrong information in his visa application. The visas of three other participants to the conference were also cancelled. However, the seminar went ahead, but without the media being allowed in.

The permission for the conference had come in the wake of China putting on hold – yet again – the listing of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Maulana Masood Azhar by the 1267 Al-Qaida and Taliban sanctions committee of the UN Security Council.

In December 2016, China warned India to respect Beijing’s “core interests” after Dalai Lama visited Rashtrapati Bhawan to attend a conference of Nobel laureates and shared the dais with the Indian president. This was the first contact between the Tibetan spiritual leader and the head of the Indian state in decades. India had played down the incident, stating that Dalai Lama had been invited for a “non-political event”.

A few months earlier in October 2016, Beijing had also protested the first ever visit by an US ambassador to India to Arunachal Pradesh.

This year, China was again upset by the visit of the Dalai Lama to Arunachal Pradesh. The language used by the Chinese foreign ministry on Dalai Lama’s visit was so sharp that India issued a list of previous trips of the Tibetan spiritual leader to the north-eastern state, which is claimed by China. The foreign ministry spokesperson also clarified that there was a “no change” in Indian government’s policy towards China’s Tibet or to the boundary question.
 
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The Chinese cannot do nothing other than bark. With more than $70 billion+ trade surplus with India in every year,they can't even fight. Their average gdp growth rate is said to be in the range of ~4.4% over the next decade. In addition to these they have billions of dollars worth of investment in India.

So all the Chinese can do is suck is up
 
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By hoisting Tibetan flag on Indian side of LOC, it actually means Tibetan exile govt are claiming Indian LOC as Tibet. What is Indian govt thinking? :rofl:

Nope, it does not mean Dalailama is claiming part of india and even China knows this. By downplaying the implication of such an event China is basically undermining her own sovereignty.
 
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Nope, it does not mean Dalailama is claiming part of india and even China knows this. By downplaying the implication of such an event China is basically undermining her own sovereignty.

It's in Indian line of control. Unless they cross into Chinese side, it can only mean that part of India is Tibet's.
 
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Supporting Tibet independence is not a good idea. We've already accepted Tibet as a part of China and let's stick to it. This isn't going to take us anywhere.
 
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Supporting Tibet independence is not a good idea. We've already accepted Tibet as a part of China and let's stick to it. This isn't going to take us anywhere.

So did China accepted Sikkim as an integral part of India, but the recent reports from their official mouthpiece about escalating Sikkim secessionist movement only exposes the hypocritical nature of the commie regime.
 
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I acknowledge what you're saying but we shouldn't compete with their immaturity. I'm sure the bureaucrates in New Delhi agree with me on this.
So did China accepted Sikkim as an integral part of India, but the recent reports from their official mouthpiece about escalating Sikkim secessionist movement only exposes the hypocritical nature of the commie regime.
 
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It doesn't matter what someone is erecting in distance. It only become news when the dissent is showing right in the enemy controlled area like Kashmiris waving Pakistani flags right on the faces of Indian soilders.
 
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I acknowledge what you're saying but we shouldn't compete with their immaturity. I'm sure the bureaucrates in New Delhi agree with me on this.

It sounds immature, but if you look at Chinese pattern they are cold and work without emotion ,The Chinese can be negotiated from position of strength not by any friendship notion.
This is brilliant silent move by India, this sends message that if they rake up India Achilles heel , we have plenty of ammunition to counter it.
 
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It sounds immature, but if you look at Chinese pattern they are cold and work without emotion ,The Chinese can be negotiated from position of strength not by any friendship notion.
This is brilliant silent move by India, this sends message that if they rake up India Achilles heel , we have plenty of ammunition to counter it.
I'm not referring to any friendly motion when I say that we shouldn't support Tibet independence movement. I just want India to stick to what we've already acknowledged. Some people even say that we should abandon our One China Policy which won't happen either (I'm damn sure it won't).

With complete confidence, I can assure you that China will never commit a mistake of supporting any successionist movement in India (If they're doing it under the table, I'm sure we're doing it too and they know it). But we both are at a stage that we can't afford having a bad relationship with each other. China needs us to prove their Peaceful Rise and we need their support in multiple international organisations.
 
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I'm not referring to any friendly motion when I say that we shouldn't support Tibet independence movement. I just want India to stick to what we've already acknowledged. Some people even say that we should abandon our One China Policy which won't happen either (I'm damn sure it won't).

With complete confidence, I can assure you that China will never commit a mistake of supporting any successionist movement in India (If they're doing it under the table, I'm sure we're doing it too and they know it). But we both are at a stage that we can't afford having a bad relationship with each other. China needs us to prove their Peaceful Rise and we need their support in multiple international organisations.


All warfare is based on deception, If you think Chinese are not supporting you are extremely naive.If in present condition Reverse was true, Chinese would have done the same.
No one wants bad relation ship, but we need to remind the neighboring countries we are not pushover or we would abandon our allies in times of difficulty.

Unless we are start breaking old rules we cant find new ways to resolve historical mistakes. One of most idiotic government decision is to accept One China policy, does china return the favor. China dint proved its peaceful rise theory in SCS and neither it will here, their policy is subdue the weak, negotiate with strong.
 
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Tibet will become a free nation, Insha'Allah.
The peaceful Tibet people have nothing in common with Chinese people and deserve their independence.
Rightly, they are fighting back and India must back them in every way.
In terms of border issue, if and when China makes a play at the border, Tibet people are ready to back India and teach the invading Chinese a lesson they will never forget.

https://thewire.in/155657/lobsang-sangay-central-tibetan-administration-tibet-flag-india-china/

New Delhi: Even as the stand-off between Indian and Chinese soldiers continues in one part of the Himalayas, Lobsang Sangay, head of the Tibetan government-in-exile, unfurled the Tibetan national flag on the shores of Pang Gong lake in Ladakh.

The lake, located at over 14,000 feet, sits astride India and China, with the Line of Actual Control passing through it.

Speaking to The Wire, Sonam Norbu Dagpo, spokesperson of the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), said that this was the first time the independent Tibet flag had been unfurled by the head of the government-in-exile at that important location.

“This is the first visit by the CTA president to Ladakh and, therefore, the first time that the national flag has been unfurled near the lake,” he said.

Dagpo pointed out that the location has special meaning for the Tibetan community. “As you know, half the lake is in India, and half the Tibet,” he added. Consequently, he said that the hoisting of the national flag has “political and personal significance”.

In fact, the official Indian position is that the area is part of Jammu and Kashmir, India, and not a part of Tibet/China.

When asked if any go-ahead signal was taken from the Indian authorities, Dagpo asserted, “I don’t think any permission is required to hoist the Tibetan national flag”.

Sangay was in Ladakh on the invitation of the Ladakhi community to celebrate the birthday of the Dalai Lama on July 6, Dagpo added.

According to a report on the lake shore ceremony published on the CTA website, Sangay had a brief audience with the Dalai Lama before leaving for the lake on the morning of July 5.

The report noted that Sangay poured “blessed grains” received from the Dalai Lama into the lake in the hope that “these grains will reach Tibet and bless Tibetans inside Tibet as well”.

“Physically, I may be standing just a few meters from Tibet today. However, in terms of political freedom and views, I am still far away from the situation inside Tibet,” Sangay said, according to the report.

Speaking to The Wire, a former MEA secretary, R.S. Kalha said, “The unfurling of the Tibetan flag [at Pang Gong] is a political act, especially at this time”.

For the last 22 days, Indian and Chinese soldiers have been watching each other warily on a clearing called the ‘Turning Point’ in Doklam. Indian soldiers had stopped Chinese soldiers from constructing a road within Bhutanese territory, which would have serious security implications for the tri-junction and the ‘chicken neck’ Siliguri corridor.

China has been on a media blitzkrieg claiming that India violated a 1890 treaty and asserting that Indian soldiers were on Chinese territory. India and Bhutan have both said that China had changed the status-quo by building a road and asked it to return to the previous position.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping had a five-minute conversation on Friday on the sidelines of a meeting of BRICS leaders gathered in Hamburg for the G20 summit. However, no details were given of the “wide range of issues” discussed.

Meanwhile, even as the two leaders met in Hamburg, the Chinese embassy in India issued an advisory for its nationals to “pay close attention to personal safety”.

The Observer Research Foundation’s Manoj Joshi agreed that the flag hoisting by Sangay “assumes importance due to the timing”. “This is a very significant gesture, given that it has happened for the first time at this location which has emotional and political symbolism.”

Both Kalha and Joshi pointed out that the flag was hoisted on Indian territory, which could be interpreted as political activity by the Tibetan exiles, something the Indian government has officially frowned upon in the past.

A former Indian diplomat, who has been a practitioner in India-China bilateral ties, claimed that it was unlikely that India would have “encouraged” Sangay to go to the lake. “So far, I do not see any signs of the Indian government interested in escalating the issue,” said the diplomat, who did not want to be named. He also pointed to the Indian statement on the Doklam stand-off, which he said was “very measured and sober”.

Joshi asserted that the NDA government has a history of trying to play up the Tibet issue. “Ever since this government took office, it has given more visibility to the Tibetan cause, right from swearing-in day. This has not gone unnoticed in Beijing,” he said.

When Modi was sworn in as prime minister, Sangay was among the special invitees in the audience, sitting right next to then Uttar Pradesh chief minister Akhilesh Yadav. Sangay’s presence led to speculation of new government policy on Tibet. Sangay’s presence didn’t go unnoticed, with China lodging a protest. A few months later, Modi and Xi were sitting together on a swing alongside the river Sabarmati – but that was probably the biggest high in India-China bilateral relations till now.

In April 2016, India allowed a US-based Chinese dissident organisation to organise a seminar of pro-democracy activists in Dharamshala, but later cancelled the visa of an Uighur activist on the grounds that he gave wrong information in his visa application. The visas of three other participants to the conference were also cancelled. However, the seminar went ahead, but without the media being allowed in.

The permission for the conference had come in the wake of China putting on hold – yet again – the listing of Jaish-e-Mohammed chief Maulana Masood Azhar by the 1267 Al-Qaida and Taliban sanctions committee of the UN Security Council.

In December 2016, China warned India to respect Beijing’s “core interests” after Dalai Lama visited Rashtrapati Bhawan to attend a conference of Nobel laureates and shared the dais with the Indian president. This was the first contact between the Tibetan spiritual leader and the head of the Indian state in decades. India had played down the incident, stating that Dalai Lama had been invited for a “non-political event”.

A few months earlier in October 2016, Beijing had also protested the first ever visit by an US ambassador to India to Arunachal Pradesh.

This year, China was again upset by the visit of the Dalai Lama to Arunachal Pradesh. The language used by the Chinese foreign ministry on Dalai Lama’s visit was so sharp that India issued a list of previous trips of the Tibetan spiritual leader to the north-eastern state, which is claimed by China. The foreign ministry spokesperson also clarified that there was a “no change” in Indian government’s policy towards China’s Tibet or to the boundary question.

This time Chinese played a real bad game and it hurting them dearly .
We didnt asked for it and was always been concern about their sensitive issue .
Yet they want to itch India then so be it.
 
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