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Check this JF-17A Block 2 brochure, Mk-20 Rockeye is carried on dual racks, hps 2,4 and 6 can take EO/FLIR and ECM pods.
I guess Aselpod on centreline hp fits the EO/FLIR category while the 2× pods seen in this old photo are indeed ECM pods from AWC/Indra.
Nonetheless, PAF will have better options with JF-17B.
From my understand we can only have 2 HP with BVR?
I wonder if the PAF will ask for the pod from Saab. I know Elettronica offered a 100% ITAR free pod (said so at IDEAS).Meanwhile, Saab equipping Gripen for the EW escort role.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2019-11-07/saab-flies-new-electronic-attack-pod
I wonder if the PAF will ask for the pod from Saab. I know Elettronica offered a 100% ITAR free pod (said so at IDEAS).
https://www.elt-roma.com/product/edge
The ELINT capability is particularly interesting. Could offer a means to identify and locate radar signals, a key first step towards SEAD/DEAD (esp. if combined with ground-based ESM and a stand-off range SAR via HAPS UAV or a HALE UAV). Combine it with ARMs, ALCMs, SOWs, MLRS, LACM and TBMs...The specs show EDGE as a very powerful jammer (noise/deception) aimed at twin-engine Tornado & Typhoon. If this can be integrated to the single-engine JF-17B with Chinese AESA/EW suite aboard is the question.
negative , No JF-17B were used during ops retortI would not rule out the possibility as previously in one of my post I have noted that we had at least 2 JF-17B available with us secondly to select an AESA radar it is logical to test the system in Pakistan and what could be a more appropriate environment than an actual combat operation .... but the issue is none of the JF-17B were officially part of PAF fleet at that time as per open source information, so my understanding [which have higher chances of going wrong] is Even if they were flying that day with AESA they were acting just as testbed not as official participant of the operation ....
@airomerix , @Tps43 can any of you comment about this interesting possibility raised by our friend Gryphon ....
As per official video about LKF-601e its possible even with previous blocks of JF-17
I wonder if the PAF will ask for the pod from Saab. I know Elettronica offered a 100% ITAR free pod (said so at IDEAS).
https://www.elt-roma.com/product/edge
Hey do you know anything about the integration facility at Kamra???I wonder if the PAF will ask for the pod from Saab. I know Elettronica offered a 100% ITAR free pod (said so at IDEAS).
https://www.elt-roma.com/product/edge
I would not rule out the possibility as previously in one of my post I have noted that we had at least 2 JF-17B available with us secondly to select an AESA radar it is logical to test the system in Pakistan and what could be a more appropriate environment than an actual combat operation .... but the issue is none of the JF-17B were officially part of PAF fleet at that time as per open source information, so my understanding [which have higher chances of going wrong] is Even if they were flying that day with AESA they were acting just as testbed not as official participant of the operation ....
@airomerix , @Tps43 can any of you comment about this interesting possibility raised by our friend Gryphon ....
As per official video about LKF-601e its possible even with previous blocks of JF-17
I can attest with absolute certitude, the two JF-17 Block IIs equipped with AESA (cannot disclose which one) officially took part in operation swift retort.
A very powerful ground based radar of IAF was successfully jammed by one of these AESA equipped JF-17. And mind you, jamming a ground based radar is 10x more difficult and complex compared to airborne assets such as other fighter aircraft and in many cases other AEW&C assets. The mastery of our pilots enabled IAF to go in this battle 'blind' and 'deaf'. Their AWACS was too far away to provide any meaningful picture of the battle.
Then everyone wonders how the hell could Su-30 not see anything and Mig 21 not hear anything. I will not be expanding on this further. I hope this helps.
I can attest with absolute certitude, the two JF-17 Block IIs equipped with AESA (cannot disclose which one) officially took part in operation swift retort.
A very powerful ground based radar of IAF was successfully jammed by one of these AESA equipped JF-17. And mind you, jamming a ground based radar is 10x more difficult and complex compared to airborne assets such as other fighter aircraft and in many cases other AEW&C assets. The mastery of our pilots enabled IAF to go in this battle 'blind' and 'deaf'. Their AWACS was too far away to provide any meaningful picture of the battle.
Then everyone wonders how the hell could Su-30 not see anything and Mig 21 not hear anything. I will not be expanding on this further. I hope this helps.