Three sisters kill man booked for blasphemy in Sialkot

[Soulspeek]

You have nothing better to say except for your rants. Namecalling is your last resort.

Well your claim is quite clearly nonsense in terms of how many Indians have been killed over similar cases, if you believe your statistic you're about as smart as a dodo.



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[Hamza913]

You have nothing better to say except for your rants. Namecalling is your last resort.

And you have nothing better to spew other than false statistics based on your dumbfounded patriotism.

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[Soulspeek]

Thats your core competency. Not mine.

And you have nothing better to spew other than false statistics based on your dumbfounded patriotism.

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[Hamza913]

Thats your core competency. Not mine.

Whatever you say.

 

[Solomon2]

Anyway, hating Israel and wanting to see it gone is perfectly justified. It's a settler state -

Really, you're allowed your own opinions, but you're not allowed your own "facts". And we've been at this long enough that I can guess you know better - you're just "don't care" about facts and context that destroy your preferred narrative, that's all. This willful blindness is what's leading to incidents like this first-degree murder committed by the three sisters: Pakistan failed to uphold a system of values to challenge unjustifiable violent hatred.

 

[niaz]

The following is an excellent commentary on the reasons as to why educated being radicalized in Pakistan.

Radicalised women
HUMA YUSUFPUBLISHED ABOUT 7 HOURS AGO

The writer is a freelance journalist.


TWO young Pakistani women, two different trajectories. Within days of Malala Yousafzai being named UN ambassador of peace, Naureen Leghari was arrested in Lahore before she could carry out a suicide bombing against the Christian community on Easter.

From Nobel Prize and Oscar winners to sportswomen and scientists, we have become accustomed to high-achieving women symbolising Pakistan’s progress and progressiveness. But there is another side to the story, embodied by women such as Aafia Siddiqui, Umme Hassan and now Leghari — the daughter of an academic, herself a medical student, radicalised online, married to a militant and willing to murder dozens.

The ISPR released Leghari’s confessional video, presumably to showcase the efficacy of the intelligence and security forces in preventing militant attacks. But what the clip — showing an articulate and self-possessed woman speaking matter-of-factly about a suicide attack — truly highlights is the degree to which Pakistani society has become vulnerable to radicalisation.

The IS offers women dignity, purpose, protection.
Leghari’s example will be used to reiterate the fact that Pakistan’s university campuses, far from being spaces of enlightenment, are ideological battlegrounds, dominated by violent extremist voices — a fact also driven home by Mashal Khan’s brutal lynching and Saad Aziz’s conviction for the Safoora Goth bus attack. A recent Sindh Counterterrorism Department survey of 500 ‘hardcore’ militants found that 64 had Master’s degrees, and 70 had Bachelor’s degrees.

This should come as no surprise. Our campuses are stifling environments that do not foster critical thinking or debate. University-age youth are meant to be fired up by ideological issues, political questions, and perceptions of injustice. These should be addressed through scholarship, discussion and student activism. In the absence of productive channels, it is no wonder that students are radicalised or willing to participate in mob violence.

Leghari’s case will also spur a regressive debate about social media and calls for stricter controls regarding internet access. That would be hugely counterproductive. The state’s obsession with online censorship and surveillance has prevented progress towards media literacy, digital safety and inculcating critical consumption skills among youth to enable them to better contextualise and resist violent extremist propaganda.

What we will not have is a broader conversation about a society in flux, one in which a medical student wants to escape to the land of khilafa rather than pursue a career and retain her familial and social links. How did we come to this?

The phenomenon of female radicalisation in Pakistan has not yet been seriously considered. Some scholarship aside, the Al Huda enthusiasm was perceived to be a joke or a nuisance. Many families welcomed the growing conservatism of their women, making them easier to control.

This benign view assumes that women are not part of the same political and ideological landscape that men are; that they are not capable consumers of media and political discourse; that they cannot be moved to action.

But they can be, particularly as they are overwhelmed by the mixed messages and competing demands of a society in the midst of an identity crisis. Pakistani women are subject to a resilient patriarchy in a society that increasingly requires them to be educated and contribute to double-income households. They must juggle expectations of their social role and behaviour generated both by Bollywood and religious talk shows. They must navigate a world in which Junaid Jamshed could both profit off women as consumers of his fashion brand and appear on a morning talk show (hosted by a woman) and argue against women being allowed to drive. Such an environment inevitably engenders feelings of alienation and confusion, without giving women the skills or space to process and channel those feelings.

In the midst of the contradictions and hypocrisies, the simplicity of the messaging of the militant Islamic State group holds appeal. And it offers what women are seeking: dignity, purpose, protection. Research on the so-called ‘brides of IS’ has shown that women are radicalised by the same issues as men: a perception that the ummah is under attack, frustration over the international community’s indifference to Muslim suffering, a sense of religious duty, the desire to meaningfully contribute to a utopian society, a craving for comradeship.

To prevent more Legharis from emerging from our campuses, our political parties — and educators, media personalities, and civil society representatives — must take up the issues that really affect modern women: access to education, workplace equality, freedom of movement, physical safety. Tackling these issues will help women manage the frustrations our society presents, and undermine the appeal of radical narratives.

The writer is a freelance journalist.

huma.yusuf@gmail.com

Twitter: @humayusuf

Published in Dawn, April 24th, 2017
https://www.dawn.com/news/1328884/radicalised-women

 

[F86 Saber]

For that you can refer to Post no.104 by your Pakistani brother.
In any case, I am claiming just 5-6 cow related deaths in comparison to 60-70 blasphemy related deaths. Onus in not on me but you people if you want to prove higher deaths.



Its not me but YOU who is stupid. You didnt even bother to read the context of my posts. We were debating on how cow related deaths are lower in comparison to blasphemy related deaths in Pakistan. You just jumped in and mixed the two issues. Begani shaadi me Abdullah Deewana.

What is the difference between blasphemy related, cow related and caste related killings? They are all religion based and equally gruesome. Don't try to get out of a debate on a technicality, bottom line is, there are more such killings in India in a year than in Pakistan in the last 60 years.

 

[Soulspeek]

Give official/genuine stats to prove your statement. Simple assumption wont be accepted.

What is the difference between blasphemy related, cow related and caste related killings? They are all religion based and equally gruesome. Don't try to get out of a debate on a technicality, bottom line is, there are more such killings in India in a year than in Pakistan in the last 60 years.

 

[Lotus_stalk]

And they blame us for beef lynching.

Under Blasphemy law,
a human's life is lower than a few words uttered from his mouth.

 

[Divergent]

And they blame us for beef lynching.

Under Blasphemy law,
a human's life is lower than a few words uttered from his mouth.

Blasphemy law is for the law. Not people. It's also in Denmark too.

Don't get excited

 

[Lotus_stalk]

Blasphemy law is for the law. Not people. It's also in Denmark too.

Don't get excited

Denmark's blasphemy law is a relic, which was not used for 46 years. Now there are plans to remove it

 

[Divergent]

Denmark's blasphemy law is a relic, which was not used for 46 years. Now there are plans to remove it

It came to revival because of an act which was offensive. Till then it's still input

 

[Lotus_stalk]

It came to revival because of an act which was offensive. Till then it's still input

Let's see what happens... Most probably the man would be set free

 

[Divergent]

Let's see what happens... Most probably the man would be set free

Thats acceptable, he's served sentence.
No one intends on killing

 

[F86 Saber]

Give official/genuine stats to prove your statement. Simple assumption wont be accepted.

What would be official/genuine stats? Reports by your own media

http://www.indiatimes.com/news/indi...hich-show-how-badly-we-treat-them-258944.html

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-above-life/story-b4iGIuRIwlxm8yRxd6JEyM.html

or international media?

http://thediplomat.com/2016/05/india-violence-against-dalits-on-the-rise/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35800449

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/06/0602_030602_untouchables.html

Or would you believe Amnesty international?

Caste-based discrimination and violence
Dalits and Adivasis continued to face widespread abuses. According to official statistics released in August, more than 45,000 crimes against members of Scheduled Castes and almost 11,000 crimes against Scheduled Tribes were reported in 2015. Dalits in several states were denied entry into public and social spaces, and faced discrimination in accessing public services.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/india/report-india/

You are so deep in delusion that there no possibility that you see even a glimpse of light. Stay there and don't try to get out otherwise you will be in for a shock.

And they blame us for beef lynching.

Under Blasphemy law,
a human's life is lower than a few words uttered from his mouth.

What about Dalits who are condemned even if they don't utter a single word? Indians really need a huge reality check.