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Three children killed by Indian cross-border fire: Pakistan

Sorry if small arms firing doesn't stop, then big weapons will be used. Too many times small arms are used to hurt Indians.


India doesn't releases a single proof in media until government authorizes. And most of the proof are submitted in meeting with Pakistani counterparts but thrown in dustbins. So not bothering to submit proofs any further.

Don't take looking for peace as sign of weakness. If you want big weapons, then you would get what you hope for. Unfortunately, such mentality is what governs India at the moment.
 
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Looking forward for peace. Government is stretching muscles but only poor soldiers and citizens are getting killed. Both sides need to stop immediately.

As long as the guys (who caused this unrest and the ones escalating it) doesn't have to pay the price.... this will continue.... and as you said the poor sipoys and civilians and their family will have to pay the price
 
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Don't take looking for peace as sign of weakness. If you want big weapons, then you would get what you hope for. Unfortunately, such mentality is what governs India at the moment.
Sir, I am very clear, if you wishes for peace, then all small and big weapons should not be used including non state actors. If you ask India to not use big weapons and use snipers or other small weapons to injure or harm any indian, then we don't make any distinction between small or big weapons and will use everthing in our arsenal as we find suitable. Arms are arms. Peace is only possible in abscense of all kinds of arms firing and no use of non state actors. Thank you.
 
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And does India feel anything at all?

Enough to stop the shelling for instance?

And is Pakistan sending flowers to our side?

Oh, people here celebrate our soldiers deaths and then turn around play victim card when they are hit.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen...
 
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Sir, I am very clear, if you wishes for peace, then all small and big weapons should not be used including non state actors. If you ask India to not use big weapons and use snipers or other small weapons to injure or harm any indian, then we don't make any distinction between small or big weapons and will use everthing in our arsenal as we find suitable. Arms are arms. Peace is only possible in abscense of all kinds of arms firing and no use of non state actors. Thank you.

It is your job to stop the non-state actors. They are what they are, non-state actors.
 
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Its poor who pays the price for egos of some generals and politicians on both sides .... may god give strength to the families of kids to bear this loss
 
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Does Indian really believe they can sleep very well when such thing is in the deep memory of its neighbor?
 
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Pakistan will gain zilch by killing civvies from IOK as we call them OUR people. You dont kill people of the land over which you wish to gain control.

I have friends who are from ajk and have relatives living closer to LOC and per my friend their relatives always report of Indian forces directly taking hit at civilians and also the reason currently his relatives have left their houses temporarily and moved over to relatives abodes located far away from LOC. You can escape firing but you can not escape heavy shelling or mortar fires.

But what will be proposed for the people who dont have relatives living far away so people could relocate to those areas?

Many people living closer to LOC cannot abandon their properties, some areas have agricultural land patches plus those are the only lands owned by people.

It is 740 km LOC , if one closely follows news one would notice that indians commit violations in about every district or sector along the loc whether its sialkot, or from neelum valley to muzaffrabad to kotli to bhimber sector.

If Pak forces wont respond then civilian casualities will spike. Unfortunately by responding civvies in Iok also come under range and that is unintentional. Hence, pak army used snipers who would only target soldiers saving innocent civvies from iok, failing to handle which India started heavy artillery shelling.

heavy artillery firing along loc in peacetime only means you want to kill civilians. It could have no other purpose. As of infiltrators then per indian reports most of the times indian army has neutralized them in the past without any heavy artillery. Then how come now to deal with infiltrations heavy arty has been deployed?

And if we recall , all of this escalated after URI camp incident.

Those who say its terrorists infiltrating , well its india itself that says that entire loc or almost most of it is fenced , thermal sensors installed, mined l, well lit-up, but when we read abt loc violations they are simultaneously done along several points of LOC , so are indians suggesting that infiltrators keep sneaking in throughout the entire stretch of the border? Sorry but that doesn't add-up.


So if one wants that pakistan stops responding to indian aggression then they are suggesting more civilian deaths from pakistan.

@Irfan Baloch is more knowledgable on that


Inna lillahe wa inna allahe rajeoon

May Allah bless these kids and give patience to the family for the loss
Just too hard.

If a single family loses three children in one go... You can't expect them to be consoled that easily and that soon unless Allah showers great mercy and patience on them.

And indian memebers even in this thread are gloating over civilians' deaths and are busy accusing others of being trolls for pointing out lack of evidence on URI.

So many deaths, and the region pushed to the brink of nuclear war....

Yet India still cannot prove their original claim that the Pakistani government was behind the Uri attack.

Which means all these people died for nothing, just some posturing from the Modi government.

Proof seems unnecessary in South Asia these days. The shooting, mortar fire, artillery fire, indiscriminate killing occurs just because of an "accusation" with no proof.

For all the angry words being exchanged over the South China Sea, at least no one is being killed there. At most, someone will get sprayed with a water hose and need to change their shirt. Horrific, I know.

You can find many young kids to old age victims living near border with amputations caused by mortar fires or due to roofs collapsed on them due to heavy shelling. Some of them are quite poor to relocate elsewhere on their own and unfortunately the government also shows apathy in helping them reocate or maybe its just not financialy viable.
 
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And indian memebers even in this thread are gloating over civilians' deaths and are busy accusing others of being trolls for pointing out lack of evidence on URI.
such indian posters are a scum of the earth.and they dont realise that they are trolling over the deaths when their country has suffered a tragic rail disaster and they are insulting their own dead too . many indians have lost their loved ones in a train tragedy and only a scumbag and a lowlife will troll over it if the death is through firing and the dead are civilians and that too children.
but then again when you have scum and bigots running their country then some effects trickle down. no wonder Indian people are using the occasion of Indian notes ban to curse Modi for everything else as well.
 
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Pakistan will gain zilch by killing civvies from IOK as we call them OUR people. You dont kill people of the land over which you wish to gain control.

Some one forgot to pass on that message to the massacred Kashmiri Pandits...
Your whole premise is under the assumption that people who are doing this are 'sane'..

And indian memebers even in this thread are gloating over civilians' deaths and are busy accusing others of being trolls for pointing out lack of evidence on URI.

No one is gloating..
Please stop this nonsense. All the Indians have expressed their regret at the loss of lives.

WE don't have double standards when it comes to innocents deaths. We are not the ones believing in good terrorists and bad ones.
 
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I think you didnt read my post carefully. I said unfortunately civilians from IOK have also come under fire but that was unintentional and hence, to avoid this pak troops are using snipers this time around,

As of civilian deaths in IOK i am fully aware of them and iwas extremely disturbed by them regardless of whatever region it is, those people who died didn't deserve to die and i had sensed discontent with our firing which resulted in that. I did see the picture of an old lady crying on her sons death and that was very saddening to say the least.

Please go through pakistan vs india civilian as well as military casualities stats. Iok civilian casualities always stand low comlared to our side.

Well as of azad kashmir people being your own then i would say tell your government to come to a truce and stop the firing , it is doing no good to any side.
 
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Well as of azad kashmir people being your own then i would say tell your government to come to a truce and stop the firing , it is doing no good to any side.

Well sir...Tell your military to stop supporting terrorists killing Indians and we will call for truce.
Now I am sure u will deny that your brass does no such thing. There in lies the problem for us. You want to bleed us by plausible deniability. And for long it has succeeded.

Not any more. Please stop complaining. Modi tried for better relations. Gave it everything. All he got was Pathankot and Uri. Oh, this is not the first time. From Kargil to 26/11, the long list of broken truces is many.

I am all for peace BOTH in your countries.

But what u are asking for us peace in your's and war in mine..
 
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