Those who kill: Profiles of Pakistan's terror outfits

[SpArK]

Negative Rating ? Seriously ...... lol

Who said outfits only work as a group?

 

[Ammyy]

dont go around the original point- does that means Pakistan still sponsor them?-
follow the notion it used to do or it is currently doing now- like i said it only make you sound stupid if you assume both happening at the same time-

You might be changed you policy to sponsor them but your army taking action against only selective groups those harming you but those who doing terrorism in neighborhood still untouched

 

[jaunty]

WebMaster



So using title used by Dawn itself, is doctoring the title?

A lesson in Doctored titles, especially for Holier than thou characters like yourself.

1.Original Title

?Gwadar Port to be functional in 5 months? - DAWN.COM

Doctored Title by yourself

Expect more Indian terror as Gwadar goes operational in 5 months.
Source: Expect more Indian terror as Gwadar goes operational in 5 months.


2.Original Title

Is India's potential prime minister driven by anti-Muslim prejudice?

Doctored Title by yourself

India the fascist ?
India the fascist ?


3.Original Title of the video.

NewsX: Pakistan to hold military exercise focused on India and it's Army

Doctored Title by yourself

Azam-e-Nau 4, Exercises | Indian media cries wolf again.

Source: Azam-e-Nau 4, Exercises | Indian media cries wolf again.


4. Original Title

Shiv Sena disagrees with hate remarks made by leader at Narendra Modi rally | NDTV.com

Title Doctored by yourself
Modi to destroy Pakistan in 6 months | Senior Shiv Sena Leader.

Source: Modi to destroy Pakistan in 6 months | Senior Shiv Sena Leader.


5. Original Title

PA passes Rs 21.67bn supplementary budget - PakTribune

Title Doctored by yourself

India spending Rs:19 Billion on media targeting Kalabagh Dam & for Terrorism in Pakistan | IB Source

Source: India spending Rs:19 Billion on media targeting Kalabagh Dam & for Terrorism in Pakistan | IB Source

6. Original Title
Pakistani Taliban commander shot dead in Waziristan| Reuters

Title Doctored by yourself

Pakistan angry as Afghan Army unwilling to strike fleeing TTP.

Source: Pakistan angry as Afghan Army unwilling to strike fleeing TTP.

These are but half a dozen examples of the titles you have doctored, so where are your negative ratings?

Practice, what you preach Mr Administrator.

You have been given administratorship, does not mean you flout forum rules, when it pleases you and penalize others for following in your footsteps.

Being appointed administrator is not a license for hypocrisy.

Must say that is one tight slap.

 

[Not Sure]

Must say that is one tight slap.

Gives quite an insight into their twisted psyche, doesn't it? lol

 

[boxer_B]

dont go around the original point- does that means Pakistan still sponsor them?-
follow the notion it used to do or it is currently doing now- like i said it only make you sound stupid if you assume both happening at the same time-

What he means that you nurtured them in past and then they become self-reliant now.

Their ideology doesn't need your funding. They can extort local businesses for that.

Their existence now is aided by lot of Taliban sympathizers, both in civilian and uniform.

You cannot pet a snake. These orgs have their own PR . Why does your country need help from such orgs in natural calamity ? Why their views make to local press ?

Its not simple as Terrorist v/s innocent in Pakistan , decades of brainwashing through Madarassas and text books justifies their existence and actions.

 

[jaunty]

Gives quite an insight into their twisted psyche, doesn't it? lol

Nah it is just one person's immaturity, which we already know quite well right from the "Hindus don't drink milk" days.

 

[Not Sure]

WebMaster



So using title used by Dawn itself, is doctoring the title?

A lesson in Doctored titles, especially for Holier than thou characters like yourself.

1.Original Title

?Gwadar Port to be functional in 5 months? - DAWN.COM

Doctored Title by yourself

Expect more Indian terror as Gwadar goes operational in 5 months.
Source: Expect more Indian terror as Gwadar goes operational in 5 months.


2.Original Title

Is India's potential prime minister driven by anti-Muslim prejudice?

Doctored Title by yourself

India the fascist ?
India the fascist ?


3.Original Title of the video.

NewsX: Pakistan to hold military exercise focused on India and it's Army

Doctored Title by yourself

Azam-e-Nau 4, Exercises | Indian media cries wolf again.

Source: Azam-e-Nau 4, Exercises | Indian media cries wolf again.


4. Original Title

Shiv Sena disagrees with hate remarks made by leader at Narendra Modi rally | NDTV.com

Title Doctored by yourself
Modi to destroy Pakistan in 6 months | Senior Shiv Sena Leader.

Source: Modi to destroy Pakistan in 6 months | Senior Shiv Sena Leader.


5. Original Title

PA passes Rs 21.67bn supplementary budget - PakTribune

Title Doctored by yourself

India spending Rs:19 Billion on media targeting Kalabagh Dam & for Terrorism in Pakistan | IB Source

Source: India spending Rs:19 Billion on media targeting Kalabagh Dam & for Terrorism in Pakistan | IB Source

6. Original Title
Pakistani Taliban commander shot dead in Waziristan| Reuters

Title Doctored by yourself

Pakistan angry as Afghan Army unwilling to strike fleeing TTP.

Source: Pakistan angry as Afghan Army unwilling to strike fleeing TTP.

These are but half a dozen examples of the titles you have doctored, so where are your negative ratings?

Practice, what you preach Mr Administrator.

You have been given administratorship, does not mean you flout forum rules, when it pleases you and penalize others for following in your footsteps.

Being appointed administrator is not a license for hypocrisy.

If they start doing what they preach, then Pakistan won't be what it has become. And we don't want that, do we?

 

[JonAsad]

You might be changed you policy to sponsor them but your army taking action against only selective groups those harming you but those who doing terrorism in neighborhood still untouched

terrorism? what terrorism- sample the last year and show examples shabash- your mouth flows like gutter its time to stop it-

 

[SpArK]

The country clearly continues to be stalked by a complex, overlapping and dizzyingly varied militant threat. If internal security peace, stability and the conditions for economic and social progress is elusive it is because the state the sum total of the civilian government and army-led security establishment has an inadequate approach.

Pakistan will not overnight become internally stable and secure. Operation Zarb-i-Azb has been treated as some kind of panacea in certain quarters, when, without a supporting anti-militancy narrative, it can only amount to surgery on a limb of a body with many afflictions.

Until all groups are eliminated and until the steady, seemingly endless supply of suicide bombers, fidayeen fighters and sundry other militants is shut down, Pakistanis will not be safe. Unfortunately, there is little to suggest that the state knows how to rid Pakistan of the religious extremism, militancy and terrorism that has blighted this country for decades now.

Finally, insecure, often defenceless, as Pakistanis are inside their own country, wagah border attack is also a reminder that Pakistan’s borders — east, west and southwest — are major flashpoints.

Peace externally and security internally is the only recipe for a stable Pakistan.

 

[Not Sure]

Nah it is just one person's immaturity, which we already know quite well right from the Hindus don't drink milk days.

Mujhe aisa nahi lagta yar. Those in this forum, who are acting like some sort of moral compass for Pakistanis, esp after taking the task of moderators and TTs, have all done this doctoring and then some more. Ye Webmaster, Irfan Baloch, Aeronaut (he's a specialist when it comes to twisting titles and posting fake pictures for propaganda), Asim Aqil (don't know what his new ID is, but he was in the forum for a very long time), these and a few others (excluding Agnostic Muslim) have done the very same things since you and I joined the forum (around same time in 2009).

It's not just an individual online. It is a phenomenon going throughout Pakistan. You watch their "talk shows", read their papers, watch the mobs taking up arms on pretexts of blasphemy, and it all shows the collective character of these peoples. And such are the characters that give rise to mobs that are thirsty for the blood of those whom they do not even know - but just because they heard the word "blasphemy". Believe it or not, but this is precisely the same psyche that gives rise to those bloodthirsty mobs in Pakistan that these people like to criticize in online forums. If you think these guys are criticizing those mobs out of some human values, you are terribly mistaken. The sole reason behind their criticism of a fellow Pakistani (no matter how big a sinner), is to save themselves from naming and shaming in front of the whole world. Otherwise, they couldn't care less.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

WebMaster



So using title used by Dawn itself, is doctoring the title?

A lesson in Doctored titles, especially for Holier than thou characters like yourself.

1.Original Title

?Gwadar Port to be functional in 5 months? - DAWN.COM

Doctored Title by yourself

Expect more Indian terror as Gwadar goes operational in 5 months.
Source: Expect more Indian terror as Gwadar goes operational in 5 months.


2.Original Title

Is India's potential prime minister driven by anti-Muslim prejudice?

Doctored Title by yourself

India the fascist ?
India the fascist ?


3.Original Title of the video.

NewsX: Pakistan to hold military exercise focused on India and it's Army

Doctored Title by yourself

Azam-e-Nau 4, Exercises | Indian media cries wolf again.

Source: Azam-e-Nau 4, Exercises | Indian media cries wolf again.


4. Original Title

Shiv Sena disagrees with hate remarks made by leader at Narendra Modi rally | NDTV.com

Title Doctored by yourself
Modi to destroy Pakistan in 6 months | Senior Shiv Sena Leader.

Source: Modi to destroy Pakistan in 6 months | Senior Shiv Sena Leader.


5. Original Title

PA passes Rs 21.67bn supplementary budget - PakTribune

Title Doctored by yourself

India spending Rs:19 Billion on media targeting Kalabagh Dam & for Terrorism in Pakistan | IB Source

Source: India spending Rs:19 Billion on media targeting Kalabagh Dam & for Terrorism in Pakistan | IB Source

6. Original Title
Pakistani Taliban commander shot dead in Waziristan| Reuters

Title Doctored by yourself

Pakistan angry as Afghan Army unwilling to strike fleeing TTP.

Source: Pakistan angry as Afghan Army unwilling to strike fleeing TTP.

These are but half a dozen examples of the titles you have doctored, so where are your negative ratings?

Practice, what you preach Mr Administrator.

You have been given administratorship, does not mean you flout forum rules, when it pleases you and penalize others for following in your footsteps.

Being appointed administrator is not a license for hypocrisy.

HeHeHe; why do want to call out that guy for what he is? Some of the "anointed ones" (aka appointed ones) here are themselves responsible for insidiously reducing the standards of the Forum. After all that; 'holier than thou' sermons then get delivered freely...........
So does one even need to consider taking such spouts seriously?

 

[SpArK]

HeHeHe; why do want to call out that guy for what he is? Some of the "anointed ones" (aka appointed ones) here are themselves responsible for insidiously reducing the standards of the Forum. After all that; 'holier than thou' sermons then get delivered freely...........
So does one even need to consider taking such spouts seriously?

God save PDF.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

God save PDF.

God is taking a long-break now..........

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Those who kill: Profiles of Pakistan's terror outfits - Pakistan - DAWN.COM


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Dawn.com

Journalist Hasan Abdullah's Consortium of Terror published earlier this year, and updated below, serves as a primer to the complex world of militancy in Pakistan.


Despite hundreds of attacks and the deaths of thousands of Pakistanis, there is still a great deal of confusion about the number, nature and end goals of the militant organisations operating in Pakistan. For some, they remain figments of a fevered imagination. To others they are proxies of foreign powers.

This belief has not come out of the blue. It is part of an obscurantist narrative the state itself created and propagated.

The problem with this narrative is that while it may have delegitimised some jihadi groups within public ranks, it is counter productive in the long run for a number of reasons.

As Pakistan debates engaging the militants in the tribal areas and beyond, it is imperative that the policy-makers as well as the public understand the militant groups and their interrelations.

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The big four




It is difficult to draw hard lines around these groups, as there is a great deal of cooperation and inter-linkage. Sometimes, for operational and propaganda reasons, a Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) attack on Shias will be claimed by the Lashkar-i-Jhangvi (LJ) and so on.

This also helps maintain the fiction that these groups are somehow entirely distinct entities.



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Al Qaeda (AQ)




AQ is not just a conventional group but the fountainhead of a violent ideology.

The organisation was founded at the end of the 1980s by Osama bin Laden while he was in Afghanistan/Pakistan waging war against the Soviets. According to Al Qaeda literature, the organisation’s ultimate goal is to establish a hardline global caliphate. It seeks to fight America and her “apostate” allies in the Muslim world.

While the organisation maintains a relatively low profile in Pakistan, it is behind much of the coordination between different jihadi groups in a bid to “channelise” and “streamline” the effort.

In contrast with many other jihadi groups, the overwhelming majority of their cadres in Pakistan are university graduates hailing from well-off urban families.

Al Qaeda regards Pakistan as a “Daar-ul-Kufr wal harb” (abode of disbelief and war). It classifies the rulers as “apostates” against whom it is obligatory to rebel and fight.

Al Qaeda considers Shias as disbelievers “in the garb of Islam”. As such, the militant organisation considers it permissible to shed the blood of Shia Muslims and confiscate their wealth. However on strategic grounds, the Al Qaeda chief has advised the operatives not to engage minority groups anywhere in a confrontation unless “absolutely required” such as in Syria and Iraq.

The organisation rejects the concept of nation-states. It seeks to expand the theatre of war, topple governments in Muslim countries and form a global caliphate.

Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan




Formally launched in 2007, the TTP is effectively Al Qaeda’s local franchise in Pakistan. Among anti-state jihadi groups here, TTP maintains the strongest footprint with operatives all over the country.

Its stated objective is to turn Pakistan into an “Islamic state”.

Up till its recent splintering, The group regarded the leader of the Afghan Taliban, Mullah Umar, as its supreme leader.

As with Al Qaeda, the TTP regards Pakistan as a “Daar-ul-Kufr wal harb” (abode of disbelief and war) and considers its rulers apostates.

While the TTP also considers Shia Muslims to be apostates, there is currently a debate within the organisation on whether a front should be opened against them.

The TTP is also increasingly looking at global operations, most recently with top TTP leaders forming splinter group TTP Jamaatul Ahrar; the group has openly pledged their allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)




The IMU was founded by Tahir Yuldashev and Jumma Kasimov (both Uzbeks) in 1991. The two had earlier fought in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion of the country.

The initial objective of the organisation was to topple Islam Karimov’s regime in Uzbekistan and to establish an “Islamic state” in the country. They also fought alongside the Taliban against the Northern Alliance.

Kasimov died in the fighting while Yuldashev, along with his fighters, managed to escape into Pakistan’s tribal areas during the 2001 US invasion of Afghanistan. IMU maintains strong contacts with Al Qaeda and Afghan Taliban as well as the TTP.

For now, its focus remains on strengthening the group as it prepares for the war in Central Asia.

Lashkar-i-Jhangvi




An offshoot of the Sipah-i-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP), the virulently sectarian LJ was formed in 1996. Its founders Riaz Basra, Akram Lahori and Malik Ishaq had differences with the SSP and believed that the parent organisation had drifted from its original ideals.

LJ’s primary targets are Shia Muslims and it has indiscriminately targeted them through both assassination and mass casualty attacks.

The LJ has killed thousands of people, including many women and children. Its largest attacks to date have been against the Shia Hazaras of Quetta.

LJ leaders say their aim is to turn Pakistan into a Sunni Islamic state and consider it a “priority” to target Shia Muslims. The group also seeks to establish stronger ties with anti-Iran groups operating in the region.

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Splinters, subdivisions and shadow groups




The lines blur when it comes to differentiating between militant groups in Pakistan. They share space, tactics and resources and sometimes, subdivisions are created for specific purposes and for creating confusion in the public’s minds.
TTP Jamaat ul Ahrar




On August 26, 2014, key commanders belonging to the TTP announced the formation of a new group by the name of TTP Jamatul Ahrar, with Maulana Qasim Khorasani as the new Ameer and also comprising other commanders.

The new group comprises of members from four of the seven tribal districts bordering Pakistan and Afghanistan, namely Mohmand, Bajaur, Khyber and Orakzai.

Former TTP spokesperson Ehsanullah Ehsan, who has been nominated as the spokesman for the splinter group says the new group only wants the Shariah system to prevail in the country.

At least 60 people were killed on Sunday November 2, 2014 in a blast near the Wagah border, the responsibility of which was claimed separately by the outlawed Jundullah and TTP-affiliated Jamaat-ul-Ahrar outfits.

Ahrar ul Hind




The group's name literally means freedom fighters of India (referring to the Indian subcontinent as a whole).

According to a commander of a Taliban group, the group derived its name of “Ahrar” from Majlis-i-Ahrar-ul-Islam, because the Ahraris were against the formation of Pakistan, and they believed that the entire subcontinent was their homeland.

The commander said that the group planned to expand their operations to the remaining part of the subcontinent.

Ansar al-Aseer




A North Waziristan based group primarily concerned with the “welfare” of locked-up jihadis. Its tasks include intelligence gathering about Pakistani jails and planning jailbreaks to release militants. It is closely allied to TTP and draws many of its fighters from TTP and IMU.

Its basic agenda is to free all militants locked up in jails across the country.

Lashkar-i-Khorasan




Al Qaeda allied group with a single point agenda to track down and eliminate “spies” in North Waziristan.

Ansar al-Mujahideen




A small organisation affiliated with the TTP. Its primary focus is targeting armed forces personnel and politicians.

As with AQ and TTP, Ansar al-Mujahideen aims to turn Pakistan into an “Islamic State” and use the state to launch “jihad” against other belligerent states.

Jandullah




Al Qaeda affiliated group that started off from South Waziristan. It gained most notoriety for its assassination attempt on the then Corps Commander Karachi Lt Gen Ahsan Saleem Hayat. The outfit has also targeted Shia Muslims and foreign tourists.

Not to be confused with Iran-based Jundullah.

Ghazi Force




A group formed after the Lal Masjid operation in Islamabad. It is named after Maulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi, the former Lal Masjid cleric who was also killed in the operation. Most of its members are relatives and friends of the people killed in the 2007 operation.

This group has practically merged with the TTP. Some of its members and sympathisers in and around Islamabad are known to provide intelligence and a footprint in the capital.

Members of the group consider it a priority to target former president Pervez Musharraf.

The ‘Other’ Militants




Then there are those jihadi groups who, for one reason or another, have historically been classified as ‘good’ militants by the state.

Part of the reason for this is that these groups do not prioritise targeting the Pakistani state and instead turn their energies outwards. However, there is evidence that militants from their ranks can and at times do join other organisations, such as the TTP, AQ and LJ.

They also share ideological commonalities with those groups and in some cases even share resources and physical space.

Lashkar-e-Taiba




Formed in the early 90s in Afghanistan, the group has been primarily operating in Indian-held Kashmir. It seeks to “liberate” the people of Kashmir from “Indian oppression” and establish an Islamic state” in the region.

It sees India, the United States and Israel as eternal enemies of Islam and boasts about defeating them through armed struggle. Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, the head of Jamat-ud-Dawa denies that his charity is simply a cover for the banned militant outfit. However the lower cadre not only acknowledges their connection with LeT but proudly boast about their operations in India.

In line with their particular brand of Salafism, the organisation is strongly opposed to rebellion against the Pakistani state.

Members of the group say they are bracing themselves for the Ghazwa-i-Hind — a grand war in which Muslims will regain control of India, they claim.

Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM)




Jaish-e-Muhammad was formed in 2000 by Maulana Masood Azhar. Shortly after its inception, it effectively swallowed a previously existing but now largely defunct Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HuM).

Its primary goal is to “liberate” Kashmir from Indian rule and it has carried out various attacks on Indian interests including the 2001 attack on Indian parliament.

The group was banned by then President Pervez Musharraf and rebranded itself as Khuddam-ul-Islam. It continues to engage in open fundraising outside many Pakistani mosques on Fridays.

Tehreek Ghalba-i-Islam




The group emerged as an offshoot of Jaish-e-Muhammad after serious differences emerged between various commanders. TGI is led by Commander Abdul Jabbar and operates primarily in Afghanistan.

Publicly, the organisation opposes rebellion against the Pakistani state. It stresses on its cadre to focus on Afghanistan.

Jaish al-Adal




The group has recently emerged in parts of Balochistan bordering Iran. It has targeted Shia Muslims and claims to be countering Iranian interference in Pakistan. The group also seeks to extend the theatre of war into Iran.

Hafiz Gul Bahadur group




He is one of the most influential figures in North Waziristan but at the same time, maintains a very low profile. Bahadur is politically affiliated with Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman’s Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam.

Hafiz Gul Bahadur have been very secretive about their plans. In public, they have always maintained focus on “liberating” Afghanistan and re-establishing Taliban rule. He is considered a pragmatic figure who knows how to consolidate his position. He has successfully managed his relations with both the military and the TTP.

He has never made his position on the Pakistani state public. However one of his most prominent commanders, who has since been killed in a US drone strike, gave an hour-long interview to Al Qaeda’s media wing As Sahab in 2009.

In the interview he made it clear that he did not have any differences with Al Qaeda or the TTP and that they were his “brothers”. He had also said that his men would fight against the Pakistan army if it sided with the Americans.

Haqqani Network




This setup operates primarily in the Eastern Afghan provinces of Khost and Paktika even though it has carried out “daring” attacks in Kabul. The network has also attempted to assassinate Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

The group is currently headed by Sirajuddin Haqqani, one of the sons of veteran Afghan jihadi commander Jalaluddin Haqqani. He is one of the most powerful commanders in the region and maintains good relations with Al Qaeda and the TTP.

The group has been silent on their view of the Pakistani state, however when questioned about the TTP, Sirajuddin Haqqani is on record as saying that he does not have differences with his “brothers”.

Their future plans focus on the reinstatement of the Taliban government in Afghanistan.

Sipah-i-Muhammad Pakistan




The group was formed in the 90s in response to the anti-Shia violence perpetuated by Sipah-i-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP). It maintains a very low profile and seeks to primarily target leaders of anti-Shia militant organisations such as SSP and LJ.

Its leader Syed Ghulam Raza Naqvi has been in prison since the mid-90s. Pakistani intelligence agencies claim the group is backed by Iran in a bid to extend its influence in the region.

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This is only a part of it; if one wants to read more refer to the Paksitani journalist Amir Mir's book "Talibanisation of Pakistan: from 9/11 to 26/11 and Beyond" for a detailed exposition of all the facts about that whole "alphabet-soup" of characters. There is a detailed description of who runs these outfits, how do they operate, what have they done and most importantly 'who created them'.
Also refer to Ahmed Rashid's (another pakistani commentator) books " Descent into Chaos: the world's Most Unstable Region and the Threat to Global Security " and "Pakistan on the Brink" which are necessary to form a complete picture of the scenario.

Btw who is the Joker who saw fit to give a negative rating to the above?

 

[ares]

This is only a part of it; if one wants to read more refer to the Paksitani journalist Amir Mir's book "Talibanisation of Pakistan: from 9/11 to 26/11 and Beyond" for a detailed exposition of all the facts about that whole "alphabet-soup" of characters. There is a detailed description of who runs these outfits, how do they operate, what have they done and most importantly 'who created them'.
Also refer to Ahmed Rashid's (another pakistani commentator) books " Descent into Chaos: the world's Most Unstable Region and the Threat to Global Security " and "Pakistan on the Brink" which are necessary to form a complete picture of the scenario.

Btw who is the Joker who saw fit to give a negative rating to the above?

That would be his Highness lord Horus/Aeronaut/Black Blood.