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"This land is ours, all of it is ours" says Israeli deputy foreign minister


Not a bad idea

But the jews wont or cant accept it

The reason being as I said before the demographics if the area are in the favour of the arabs they have more children, they marry early, they don't do military service and have children in quick time period after relatively early marriage


In the coming yesrs the arab and muslim population will outgrow the jew becoming the majority



So for the jews one non apartheid state means the end of the jewish state snd jew rule



They should of allowed palestine state whilst they had the chance because the only option they have is to oppress the Palestinians and have apartheid laws to keep jewish privilege


The problem being human beings will be suppressed only for so long

This doesn't even count tge palestine refugees which number in the millions

They done a damn fine job of it so far. The Israelis are resilient, cunning, pragmatic and fearsome- NO ONE is going to displace them, it doesn't matter how many Arabs are there. The Arabs are too busy fighting each other, funding terror outfits and generally being lazy to do anything about it- we all know how embarrassingly toothless Arab militaries are in reality. Compare that to the single-minded, focused and honed Israeli military who will do whatever it takes to defend their homeland, I would place my money on the IDF every day for the rest of my existence.

The problem isnt the IDF ding bat sure the jews have one over the arabs at the moment but at some point the arabs will get their act together and their will be hell to pay


The problem tthe israelis have is the sheer amount of arabs being born across Gaza Israel and the west bank not including the refugees the Jews simply won't be able to keep pace
 
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The Israelis are resilient, cunning, pragmatic and fearsome- NO ONE is going to displace them

They have been displaced many times from many places through out history, but yeah as of now they are not going anywhere in foreseeable future.
 
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The problem tthe israelis have is the sheer amount of arabs being born across Gaza Israel and the west bank not including the refugees the Jews simply won't be able to keep pace
Many of the Arabs/Muslims being born in Israel consider themselves Israeli and will serve in the IDF.

They have been displaced many times from many places through out history, but yeah as of now they are not going anywhere in foreseeable future.
The past is the past, they are now an organised, established and flourishing nation- they have never had that in the past. There is nothing anyone can do to move them from where they are, they will fight for every square inch and their nation is single-minded in this. Not to mention they have the unwavering support of Uncle Sam.

I understand the sentiments being expressed on here but let's be realistic- Israel is here to stay- for good and the Arabs, wider international community or Martians are going to change this categorical fact.
 
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Many of the Arabs/Muslims being born in Israel consider themselves Israeli and will serve in the IDF.


The past is the past, they are now an organised, established and flourishing nation- they have never had that in the past. There is nothing anyone can do to move them from where they are, they will fight for every square inch and their nation is single-minded in this. Not to mention they have the unwavering support of Uncle Sam.

I understand the sentiments being expressed on here but let's be realistic- Israel is here to stay- for good and the Arabs, wider international community or Martians are going to change this categorical fact.

No they wont

Give the arabs guns and let them join the IDF and next day you will have alot of dead jew soldiers and the israelis know it

Its not just the arab/muslim population IN israel which has grown beyond 20% now its the millions in the west bank which israel occupies

Israel has to have a jew majority in order to have a jewish democratic state but millions of Palestinians live on land israel covets rather then separate and give the Palestinians a state they occupy the land build settlements making a Palestinian state impossible thus they are stuck either they give the Palestinians equal citizenship if one state in which case the jews become a minority and end the jewish state forever

Or they occupy the land become a minority but have a apartheid state where their is one set of rules for jews and Palestinians are second class citizens, a situation which will bring both condemnation and conflict




The israelis are actually confused they want the land but are stick with the millions of people and the status quo of occupying land refusing a Palestinian state whilst suppressing the Palestinians is difficult to maintain
 
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-She can keep dreaming. There will be a day that every rock will speak and tree will speak, with the exception of Al-Qarqad tree.

-She should know that the last seat of the Khilafa will be Jerusalem.

The response to Jewish prophesy should be Muslim prophesy.
 
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They done a damn fine job of it so far. The Israelis are resilient, cunning, pragmatic and fearsome- NO ONE is going to displace them, it doesn't matter how many Arabs are there. The Arabs are too busy fighting each other, funding terror outfits and generally being lazy to do anything about it- we all know how embarrassingly toothless Arab militaries are in reality. Compare that to the single-minded, focused and honed Israeli military who will do whatever it takes to defend their homeland, I would place my money on the IDF every day for the rest of my existence.
Not to mention nukes
 
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as long as israel has nukes, they will keep their country or will take middle east eith them.

as long as israel has nukes, they will either keep their country or will take middle east with them.

since israel has nukes, they will either keep their country or will take middle east with them.
 
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as long as israel has nukes, they will keep their country or will take middle east eith them.

as long as israel has nukes, they will either keep their country or will take middle east with them.

since israel has nukes, they will either keep their country or will take middle east with them.

Are you insane? So Palestinians outnumber the Jews, let's kill all muslims then. I suggest you go take a long bath in the Ganges river and think things through. Nukes on who? On themselves?
 
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May 23, 2015

Israel’s obsession with hummus is about more than stealing Palestine’s food

When Israel expelled hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their villages and homes in 1948, many left with little more than the clothes on their back. Food was left on the stove. Crops were left unharvested. But the land emptied of its inhabitants was soon occupied by new residents.

From 1948 to 1953, almost all new Jewish settlements were established on refugees’ property. The myth of making the desert bloom is belied by the facts: in mid-1949, two-thirds of all land sowed with grain in Israel was Palestinian land. In 1951, “abandoned” land accounted for nearly 95 per cent of all Israel’s olive groves and almost 10,000 acres of vineyards.

During these early years, many Palestinian refugees attempted to return to their lands. By 1956, as many as 5,000 so-called “infiltrators” had been killed by Israeli armed forces, the vast majority of them looking to return home, recover possessions, or search for loved ones. Palestinian women and children who crossed the frontier to gather crops were murdered.

The Nakba in 1948 was the settler colonial conquest of land and the displacement of its owners, a dual act of erasure and appropriation. Citing “reasons of state”, Israel’s first premier David Ben-Gurion appointed a Negev Names Committee to remove Arabic names from the map. By 1951, the Jewish National Fund’s “Naming Committee” had “assigned 200 new names”.

But it did not stop with dynamite and new maps. The Zionist colonisation of Palestine has also included culture, notably cuisine. This is the context for the so-called “hummus wars”: it is not about petty claims and counterclaims, rather, the story is one of colonial, cultural appropriation and resistance to those attempts.

In the decades since the establishment of the State of Israel on the ruins and ethnically cleansed lands of Palestine, various elements of the indigenous cuisine have been targeted for appropriation: falafel, knafeh, sahlab and, of course, hummus.

Though these dishes are common to a number of communities across the Mediterranean and Middle East, Israel claims them as its own: falafel is the “national snack”, while hummus, according to Israeli food writer Janna Gur, is “a religion”.

In a 2002 article on recipes, the Israeli embassy in Washington acknowledged that “Israel lacks a long-standing culinary heritage”, adding that “only a few years ago, Israelis even doubted the existence of their own authentic cuisine”.

Such an admission is hard to find these days, as appropriation has become propaganda.

In 2011, Jerusalem-based chef Michael Katz visited Australia and told a local newspaper how the Israeli government had “decided, through culture, to start improving Israel’s image”.

“They started sending artists, singers, painters, filmmakers and then the idea came of sending chefs.”

In 2010, the Israeli government decided to distribute pamphlets at Tel Aviv airport, to equip Israelis who go abroad with, in the words of then-public diplomacy minister Yuli Edelstein, the “tools and tips to help them deal with the attacks on Israel in their conversations with people”. Included in the literature was the claim that “Israel developed the famous cherry tomato.”

Now, as the Jewish Telegraphic Agency put it earlier this year, “Israel has been on the culinary ascent of late, with dozens of food blogs, new high-end restaurants, cooking shows and celebrity chefs, and a fascination with everything foodie”.

It is not just food that is enlisted in Israel’s global PR initiatives. A few year ago, pro-Israel students at Brandeis University, in Massachusetts, held a “hookah night” with the help of campus-based “hasbara fellows”, professional Israel advocates who noted without any irony that “hookah is not specifically an Israeli cultural facet”.

In addition to smoking and snacks, the “cultural” evening also included belly dancers. Explaining the rationale for the event, a member of the Brandeis Zionist Alliance said they had found that “students are more receptive to Israel-related education when we use a cultural lens”.

Now we have “International Hummus Day”, launched by an Israeli, Ben Lang, who is explicit about the propaganda value of his project: “The idea was to connect people around hummus and get more people talking about it and hopefully get people to see the good things that are happening in Israel.”

“I just wanted to make sure that people saw that the initiative started in Israel.”

As everything from food to the keffiyeh is used to “rebrand” the state that colonised Palestine in the first place, Palestinians and their supporters have fought back.

When an Israeli choreographer included the dabke traditional dance in his company’s repertoire in 2013, a New York-based dabke troupe responded with a thoughtful critique that noted how, by “appropriating dabke, and labelling it Israeli”, the “power imbalance” is only furthered.

They added: “This makes us feel taken advantage of. Exploited. Commodified.”

In December 2014, after a campaign by Palestinian students and their allies, the student assembly at Wesleyan University in Connecticut agreed to remove Sabra hummus from campus dining facilities. The product symbolises Israeli appropriation and ongoing brutality; its parent company, the Strauss Group, donates to the Israeli military.

Accusations of cultural appropriation can produce some misleading responses. It’s not about who is “allowed” to eat what, or even about an objection to the natural cross-pollination that occurs in culture through language, cuisine and more.

That is not the point. It is about the claim of ownership in a context of historic and ongoing violent erasure and displacement.

It is about efforts to create an artificial history that justifies the establishment and continued existence of a settler colonial state.

Even a mainstream Israeli food writer like Gil Hovav has pointed to this reality. “Food is about memory and identity,” he told the Israeli media last year. “Claiming ownership over a food is a way to assert a nation’s narrative. Israeli Jews have made hummus their own.”

Cuisine is where efforts to both deny the existence of Palestine and appropriate its land and heritage meet. It is both an act of theft itself, and a way of justifying that theft.

Ben White is a journalist and the author of Israeli Apartheid: A Beginner’s Guide

On Twitter: @benabyad

Israel’s obsession with hummus is about more than stealing Palestine’s food | The National
 
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