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This Is What the Modi Sarkar Has Done to Indian Muslims

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When I was in middle school some Sikh co-students ( who were adopted by the local gurudwara ) used to call the Muslim students as "Turk" and made a joke poem out of us. But other than this I will be frank in saying that in the region I have lived in ( the Deccan ) I have never faced discrimination for being a Muslim.

However, I have never lived in the notorious places like Bombay, Haryana and Gujarat where such discrimination exists openly. These are the places from where words like "Katue" find origin and find usage on the internet.

One or two times I have come across the word "Muzzie" but that was not in hatred. It was like a Sikh calling other Sikhs as "Surds".

The author says that he used to wear patriotism on his sleeve. For me, until in the last 10 years, I used to watch the Republic Day military parade on TV. And then I got bored of weapons parade. I was never a nationalist so I didn't have the disillusionment that the author had.
 
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I feel very bad for this dude. I can relate with every single line. There's no solution for the present majoritarian crisis in India unless there is a forced regime change. Even then the divisions and scars will stay permanent at least for a generation or two.

The Muslims of India should embrace their Islamic identity with greater fervour, and stay away from the Sanghi crowd as much as possible. Don't make colleagues out of them, don't watch their television shows or movies, don't hang out with them for chai adda. Of course, Islam teaches you to be broad-minded so if any non-Sanghi Hindus/Sikhs/Jains etc. want to hang out with you, embrace them in your fold. If he/she is allergic to the sound of azaan or says crap things derived from WhatsApp University, tell them to immediately get up and leave. Such persons obviously can't be your friends.

No Muslims should have to feel conspicuous of saying salam walekum or a child calling his father, "abba", or hestitating to eat non-veg food? No Muslims should compromise on their basic identity and cultural habits. To hell with anyone who says nasty stuff, don't pay attention to the street dogs if you're in their turf, and confrontation is not advisable. For any problems such as discrimination, immediately escalate it to the level of Amnesty International or consult lawyers.

All Muslims working in Hindu corporations should bandy together and engage with professional lawyer organizations, and file for discrimination if they were unfairly treated. The banya only understands the bottomline, once he finds out that the Muslim will not take any abuse in the workplace sitting down, then he will immediately workplace policies to prevent harassment based on religion. Always engage with local Congress/CPI-M outfits. They are always looking for an excuse to malign the BJP, and they will scream on your behalf. :smitten:Basically always escalate the matter when you have a good chance of getting your own back.

Also carry a video camera at all times, and film the nasty interactions to be later put on YouTube. Make sure the phones are cheap because they might try to destroy your equipment.

I support Rana Ayyub and others like her who are fighting these pigs on a daily basis. But for most interactions in life, fights should be avoided.

There is strength in unity.
 
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Are you implying that second class citizens of a third class country don't have problems which need discussion? :o:
They are 3rd class citizens according to your hate and discrimination. Who are discussing their problems.

Cheers Doc
Says a second class citizen of a third class country who just got lucky not to get lynched today.

:lol:
Oh second class citizen of a third class country is worried about Raymond Davis.

How cute! :)
Shut up

And let people discuss their problems
The terms '3rd class' or '2nd class' were used by this Pakistani member. Not by me.

And you didn't get the point. Compare his posts in 2018 with his posts in 2020. What's the vested interest reason behind this change of heart? Posts quoted above for your reference.

- PRTP GWD
 
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"Turk"


"Katue"

"Muzzie"

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All these three words are equally offensive to me, and I'm not Muslim. You should ideally be punching anyone in the face for using those words in your presence.

At the least there should be zero tolerance for such abuse. If you feel the accuser can be gently reminded that these words are offensive (i.e. if he has any ghairat), and he/she can be corrected, go ahead and explain your point of view. But no way you should have to suffer the same abuse from the same person twice.
 
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https://thewire.in/communalism/this-is-what-the-modi-sarkar-has-done-to-indian-muslims

This Is What the Modi Sarkar Has Done to Indian Muslims
Indian Muslims are being stripped of their Indian identity even as they are blamed for not being Indian enough.

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"With passing time, and with limited choice, my identity got established. I was a Muslim. Nothing less and nothing more." Photo: Public domain


Anonymous
COMMUNALISM
08/JUL/2020
Studying at Aligarh Muslim University (AMU) in the 1990s, my first physical fight was with a Muslim Kashmiri boy during the telecast of an India-Pakistan cricket match on the hostel TV set. He kept supporting Pakistan even when our team was playing better cricket.

I was a total nationalist. I loved war movies depicting Indian victory. A lump rose in my throat every time I heard the song ‘Sare jahan se achha Hindustan humara’. My heartbreaks when India lost crucial cricket matches were the talk of the town. All in all, my heart bled for India and I decided to stay put here even when most of my allegedly ‘non-patriotic’ Muslim friends and axiomatically ‘patriotic’ Hindu friends opted to leave for greener pastures in the West.

On another front, my liberal views made me stand out in a place like AMU. The sarcastic term to describe Muslims like me was ‘liberated’. I felt pride in the fact that I was both Muslim and ‘liberated’. Identity was a matter of choice for me. It happens when you are privileged.

Times changed. India changed. The demolition of the Babri Masjid, the Gujarat pogrom, rising communal tension, and finally a regime change. All this cast a disturbing shadow on my identity. For the first time in my life I started feeling more and more Muslim. The mirror of privilege to choose an identity had suddenly cracked. With a typical Muslim name, I found it impossible to rent a home in a metropolitan city. On learning my name, people’s expressions would alter, and suspicious glances would be exchanged. Conversations hushed as I entered my office. With passing time, and with limited choice, my identity got established. I was a Muslim. Nothing less and nothing more.

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As the Modi sarkar took a stronger foothold, the lynching of Muslims started. It disturbed me. My established identity could now bring a sudden and violent end to life. I started to debate less in public. I stopped saying salamwaleikum on receiving a phone call in a public space. I taught my kids to not call me abba while travelling on a train or a bus. I even started tweaking my name. Meat dishes were out of the menu, more so when I travelled. I had never imagined that the privilege of identity could actually turn into a handicap for me. In this new India, being both a Muslim and ‘liberated’ could mean sure trouble.

I started to live in fear. I pondered on my identity more than I did at any point in my life. I still didn’t say prayers five times and still didn’t fast in Ramzan. But I continued to be a Muslim.

On social media my name enraged people. I was shunned and trolled when speaking against the atrocities on my fellow citizens. Strangely, the most explicit of abuses came when I wrote against the caste system. Identity was now someone else’s privilege! Words like kafir, jihadi, antinational, mullah, katua followed me on every page of the web. I was accused of being affiliated to the Taliban and ISIS. My liberal values were mocked: “How can a Muslim support a democracy?” If I attempted to argue, my detractors would ask me to go to Pakistan, and sometimes even Saudi Arabia. A cloud of hate hung over my head all the time, like a halo, and I started becoming used to its presence.

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The whole idea was to make me realise that I was a Muslim alone. Any other identity was not for me. Gradually, I too started becoming wary of wearing my patriotism on my sleeve. I think the most dangerous and unfortunate part of any system of apartheid is the fatigue of those who are optimistic despite the discrimination. As each optimist begins to lose hope, the discrimination wins and gets rooted a little more firmly. The protests against the Citizenship (Amendment) Act drew me in, but only as a Muslim who sees the writing on the wall. The concerned citizen of a democracy was slowly fading away like the evening sky.

Humans lose hope when they are not loved. To be differentiated and discriminated is to be alienated. As Pablo Neruda said in his poem, ‘If you forget me‘:

Well, now,

if little by little you stop loving me
I shall stop loving you, little by little

If suddenly

you forget me
do not look for me
for I shall already have forgotten you

When India lost the cricket World Cup semi-final in July 2019, I felt bad not because India lost but because something in me had already died. My overriding feeling that day was just relief. The relief that Modi could not turn a World Cup victory into yet another moment of personal aggrandisement. Relief that the bigots who had abused me and others would be denied a moment of happiness which so quickly turns into chauvinism in their hands. Relief because it spared us interminable chest thumping by rabid news anchors who had nothing to do with the game but would have taken credit for a victory anyway or found some way to turn it into a communal issue.

Also read: In New India, a Muslim Rose Smells Different From a Hindu Rose

When news of the Chinese intrusion came, I looked at the issue as if from the outside. I felt terrible for the slain soldiers, of course, but as fellow human beings and not because they and I are Indian. Like other Indians, I felt revulsion at the obfuscation by ‘nationalist’ anchors who have used the word ‘appeasement’ so often and so loosely, they no longer are able to recognise it when it happens in front of them. Like other Indians, I felt revulsion at the post-intrusion mumbling, kneeling and lying by the prime minister. The humiliation of a leader whose regime had humiliated me and others like me so much – and which thinks nothing of labelling us ‘anti-national’ and ‘seditious’ – did not displease me so much as fill me with dread about the future of our country which is clearly not safe in their hands.

Since the “leader” is seen as synonymous with “nation”, the social media trolls will still see me as a Muslim who is not an Indian for writing this. But for everyone else, I have no doubt they will understand what I am saying: that when nations treat their citizens unequally, the notion of national identity takes a beating.

I write this piece anonymously because I have a family. I have a job. I live in a neighbourhood. This is a New India and I am a coward. It had to be anonymous.


So basically Pakistanis were always correct ie rss hindu scum of the earth and you were just a dumb dork that fell for their crap..


You had one slow learning curve...
 
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So basically Pakistanis was always correct and you were just a dumb dork that fell for their crap..


You had one slow learning curve...

The experience of living in a majority Muslim country and a non-Muslim majority cannot be equated. Certain things that you take for granted, cannot be expected within a different society.

People are born into their fate, it is not a choice they make. Those that can afford to migrate, will do so. But that is not possible for all 210 Million Muslims. Their solution and salvation is within India.

I feel very bad for this dude. I can relate with every single line. There's no solution for the present majoritarian crisis in India unless there is a forced regime change. Even then the divisions and scars will stay permanent at least for a generation or two.

We are hopelessly stuck within a society that hates us. I don't see an easy solution out.
 
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Those that can afford to migrate, will do so. But that is not possible for all 210 Million Muslims. Their solution and salvation is within India.

Truth. Which is why I will support Indian Muslims to urge Asaduddin Owaisi to not limit himself to being a de facto leader of Indian Muslims and involve himself into collaborating with the progressive movements here, just like how decades ago Muslim intellectuals were prominent in Indian progressive circles.
 
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We are hopelessly stuck within a society that hates us. I don't see an easy solution out.

Based on our interactions, you don't seem to be a very religious person. And I think you married a Hindu girl, so you end up hanging out more with the Hindus. That's why you feel the discrimination up, close and personally.

But it's perfectly all right, there was a time I used to hang out mostly with White people (in Europe). No one will believe it, but it's true. Not a single brown person in my life, LOL. It used to be like a den full of vipers. I got what I wanted from them (had sambhog with plenty of goris :cheesy:). But the goras and goris can be generally 100x more haraami than the Indians. I am so glad I ended up marrying an Indian woman!

You're an intelligent man, you surely know how to play these Sanghi robots in real life.
 
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The experience of living in a majority Muslim country and a non-Muslim majority cannot be equated. Certain things that you take for granted, cannot be expected within a different society.

People are born into their fate, it is not a choice they make. Those that can afford to migrate, will do so. But that is not possible for all 210 Million Muslims. Their solution and salvation is within India.



We are hopelessly stuck within a society that hates us. I don't see an easy solution out.


Have you met Indian Muslims? They had irrational hate of Pakistan ... why?

bcos the Hindus say so...



They spared no effort to talk ill that to in places like out side India.. so sorry I have zero sympathy for them and they deserve what they got..

They gave shit now they got shit.


Enjoy...
 
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Truth. Which is why I will support Indian Muslims to urge Asaduddin Owaisi to not limit himself to being a de facto leader of Indian Muslims and involve himself into collaborating with the progressive movements here, just like how decades ago Muslim intellectuals were prominent in Indian progressive circles.

Muslims need more leaders than Asaduddin Owaisi. Everyone should be self-reliant, and not depend on 1 or 2 persons alone. Become financially independent, learn Judo-Karate (even stock firearms if you have access to them).

Don't take BS from Sanghi rats who recently tucked their tails in Galwan Valley. They are not to be feared. Don't fear fat sewer rats like Amit Shah.
 
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Based on our interactions, you don't seem to be a very religious person. And I think you married a Hindu girl, so you end up hanging out more with the Hindus. That's why you feel the discrimination up, close and personally.

But it's perfectly all right, there was a time I used to hang out mostly with White people (in Europe). No one will believe it, but it's true. Not a single brown person in my life, LOL. It used to be like a den full of vipers. I got what I wanted from them (had sambhog with plenty of goris :cheesy:). But the goras and goris can be generally 100x more haraami than the Indians. I am so glad I ended up marrying an Indian woman!

You're an intelligent man, you surely know how to play these Sanghi robots in real life.

I come from an upper middle class family. We have been among the privileged lot in India with enough connections to be shielded from the challenging experiences of the common man. Yes most of my friends are Hindu, but despite their education they all have drunk the koolaid (or cowpiss rather) and have turned over to the dark side.

However, I will not be oblivious to the sufferings of those within our society. You do not have to suffer like the others to empathize with them or speak out for them.

It is the poor Muslims that will suffer the most, in terms of violence or economic. But in a society creeping with fascism, the fire ultimately consumes all. What happens to the poor Muslims today, will happen to the middle class Muslims tomorrow, and the upper class Muslims the day after. The fire of hate always needs oxygen to burn.

Have you met Indian Muslims? They had irrational hate of Pakistan ... why?

bcos the Hindus say so...



They spared no effort to talk ill that to in places like out side India.. so sorry I have zero sympathy for them and they deserve what they got..

They gave shit now they got shit.


Enjoy...

I could provide some context and explanation, but you don't seem to be that type to reason with. So you can take delight in the sufferings of Indian Muslims, just like the Hindus are presently doing.
 
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I come from an upper middle class family. We have been among the privileged lot in India with enough connections to be shielded from the challenging experiences of the common man. Yes most of my friends are Hindu, but despite their education they all have drunk the koolaid (or cowpiss rather) and have turned over to the dark side.

However, I will not be oblivious to the sufferings of those within our society. You do not have to suffer like the others to empathize with them or speak out for them.

It is the poor Muslims that will suffer the most, in terms of violence or economic. But in a society creeping with fascism, the fire ultimately consumes all. What happens to the poor Muslims today, will happen to the middle class Muslims tomorrow, and the upper class Muslims the day after. The fire of hate always needs oxygen to burn.

I have a close friend in Hyderabad (Sayyid hai). Lives in the posh area of Jubilee Hills and has a respectable post in a good organization. Great connections. Also has a fleet of cars and motorcycles. Jab usay jo shauk hota wohich gaadi nikalta hai.

I think it was in February/March, I was trying to discuss the Tablighi Jamaat issue with him: he completely shrugged me off. I also reserved the choicest abuse for Modi/Shah (which I always do with anyone in India).But he didn't want to entertain that. Not because he doesn't trust me (we're pretty close) but because he genuinely wants to believe there is no problems in India right now. I did not press further, and don't want to challenge his bubble. Usay mubarak ho uski apnee independent life.

It's not about really being Hindu/Muslim. No decent human being should support sewer rats like Modi and Amit Shah. Period.
 
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When I was in middle school some Sikh co-students ( who were adopted by the local gurudwara ) used to call the Muslim students as "Turk" and made a joke poem out of us. But other than this I will be frank in saying that in the region I have lived in ( the Deccan ) I have never faced discrimination for being a Muslim.

Is this considered a derogatory term among North Indian Muslims? If so any idea of the origin behind
 
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