This is very much Zia's Pakistan, the most influential man after Jinnah

[Kapwercs]

It is your right. No doubt.

But it is not a right of people in India. What is left of India that is.
Hindus and Buddhists etc did not decide to partition the country. Muslims did. 87 percent of them. Only a fraction actually left what is India today.

Citizens can either be engines, deadweight or brakes for a nation.

 

[Tshering22]

Our country exists as a civilizational refuge of Dharma. Those who are not comfortable with it need to correct there ancestor's laziness and move.

Well put.

We should formally open a government to government committee to facilitate those who aren't comfortable with living in India can move to a country of their religious beliefs.

I mean many Indian Jews peacefully migrated. They are happy. Many came back to India as well stating inability to adjust to Middle East. They are happy too.

This clarifies it both ways.

Why not such a panel or committee with Pakistan?

 

[Zibago]

But it is not a right of people in India. What is left of India that is.

Absolutely the other guy was questioning us why we need to eat beef i told him that i actually have very little objection to the Indian ban i actually use it as a scoring point against Indian Muslims on fb when they needlessly butt in our affairs

Only a fraction actually left what is India today.

Depends on the region

 

[Tshering22]

Ok what have my dietary habit anything to do with your feelings?Cant you mind your own god-damn business?

Yes eating beef for people of Azad Kashmir actually means exercising freedom as it carried the death penalty before partition in Fascist Hindu Dogra dictatorship of Kashmir

I am least concerned what you eat as an individual.

The point is, there are a tonne of other things that are offensive to your kind and you don't accept it when others who find it normal, do.

From what I know, the Hindus don't eat beef because killing a cow is sin. You don't eat pork simply because you consider it impure.

So while you may not mind the death of a pig for someone's consumption, the death of a cow matters to the Hindu community.

Tell me something; is eating cow meat mandatory for you?
What did the people of Arabia eat before modern trade allowed other meats to be exported there?
I haven't seen anyone else so uptight about eating beef than muslims of the sub-continent.

No other non-Muslim minority has issues accommodating to this request. Not us, not Jews, not Parsis and not even Christians as a community.

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Fascist Dogra dictatorship?

They were a kingdom just like many other kingdoms of all faiths.

 

[Zibago]

From what I know, the Hindus don't eat beef because killing a cow is sin. You don't eat pork simply because you consider it impure.

We dont eat pork but we wont kill you for eating pork wildboars are widely consumed by Christians in Punjab during harvest season

From what I know, the Hindus don't eat beef because killing a cow is sin. You don't eat pork simply because you consider it impure.

Why should we refrain from something you consider a sin that just doesnot add up now does it?
We think alcohol is haram now do we have a right to stop Hindus from drinking it on Holi?No we dont

Tell me something; is eating cow meat mandatory for you?

It is not but its cheaper than mutton for me why should i go for a pricier alternate when i have something cheaper available ?
Beef qeema costs like 600 rs per kg while mutton is 950 per kg

What did the people of Arabia eat before modern trade allowed other meats to be exported there?

They didnt but the people of this region did eat beef

I haven't seen anyone else so uptight about eating beef than muslims of the sub-continent.

We have always consumed beef its not like a recent trend or something

They were a kingdom just like many other kingdoms of all faiths.

Yeah where death of a muslim carried punishment 1/4th of that of a Pandit and where people from my region even were skinned to death by the fascist regime

Fun fact about Pakistan its consider rude to serve only veg dishes to guest meat is important part of our culture

 

[Hell hound]

Can your normal restaurants serve pigs meat ?

Pig's meat isn't sold because there is no market for it.not because people here kills everyone whom they saw eating it.

 

[Zibago]

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[Tshering22]

We dont eat pork but we wont kill you for eating pork wildboars are widely consumed by Christians in Punjab during harvest season

Again; two totally different reasons. What you consider lowly or impure will not have an effect if others consume or do it.
However, what one cherishes or holds of higher value will definitely bother them if someone else does its opposite.

For example in muslim countries, during the month of ramzan, muslims fast but the non-muslims are also obliged to not eat openly in public.

That violates the freedom of non-muslims as well. But what is offensive must not be done and hence they comply.

Similarly it is the beef issue for the Hindus. They also have sensitivities like we all do.

Now for us, though we eat non-vegetarian food extensively, killing an animal near a monastery or a shrine will be a serious sin.

It is not but its cheaper than mutton for me why should i go for a pricier alternate when i have something cheaper available ?
Beef qeema costs like 600 rs per kg while mutton is 950 per kg

That is the local market conditions of Pakistan. Here that is not the case.

Non-veg has gotten cheaper here over the years (except seafood which is very expensive in the upper half of India). There are plenty of options here without beef as well.

They didnt but the people of this region did eat beef

Seems like that is the only issue you have with India. Beef. Nothing else.
Then don't you think that Hindus and other non-Muslims like us find it disturbing to adjust to your prayer calls and other events?

See a society is about adjusting harmoniously to each others' sensitivities and the Hindus probably give more way than any other faith would in their country of origin. They ban books offensive to your religion, they allow people to pray on streets, they allow minorities to do whatever they want.

It would be rather unfair to not respect their sensitivities just as they respect ours.

Yeah where death of a muslim carried punishment 1/4th of that of a Pandit and where people from my region even were skinned to death by the fascist regime

Goodness! Who told you about skinning alive!? That is seriously an exaggeration. Might want to fact check on that one.

Sounds like someone has misinformed you.

Fun fact about Pakistan its consider rude to serve only veg dishes to guest meat is important part of our culture

Here also eating meat is customary from region to region such as mine. It is just that if we don't know the guest, we politely ask what they would prefer.

India isn't what your make it out to be all across as one monolithic figure.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Absolutely the other guy was questioning us why we need to eat beef i told him that i actually have very little objection to the Indian ban i actually use it as a scoring point against Indian Muslims on fb when they needlessly butt in our affairs

Depends on the region

Yes. The Muslims who voted for Pakistan left in small numbers in comparison. Only the Punjab was cleared. The real headache regions like Bihar and the United provinces remained. Only a few million left for Pakistan from the UP.

Again; two totally different reasons. What you consider lowly or impure will not have an effect if others consume or do it.
However, what one cherishes or holds of higher value will definitely bother them if someone else does its opposite.

A good example or a fair comparison would be drawing Muhammad. Something they hold sacrosanct. But otherwise cool for non Muslims. But usually non Muslims are killed for that offense.

 

[Zibago]

Again; two totally different reasons. What you consider lowly or impure will not have an effect if others consume or do it.

It wont and i dont care who eats it or doesnot eat it

For example in muslim countries, during the month of ramzan, muslims fast but the non-muslims are also obliged to not eat openly in public.

And i am not a fan of it i dont think it should be banned

Now for us, though we eat non-vegetarian food extensively, killing an animal near a monastery or a shrine will be a serious sin.

We can easily avoid that by staying away from them no?

Seems like that is the only issue you have with India. Beef. Nothing else.

That actually is not the biggest issue the bigger issues are Kashmir and your role in Afghanistan other than that meh i dont care

See a society is about adjusting harmoniously to each others' sensitivities and the Hindus probably give more way than any other faith would in their country of origin.

The alternate is not doing it infront of the other person you can still be respectful if you do that

Goodness! Who told you about skinning alive!? That is seriously an exaggeration. Might want to fact check on that one.

It actually did happen there is a monument near Rawalakot Azad Kashmir near @Burhan Wani village our region saw countless rebellions against the dogras because of the high handed approach by them toward our region

Yes. The Muslims who voted for Pakistan left in small numbers in comparison. Only the Punjab was cleared. The real headache regions like Bihar and the United provinces remained. Only a few million left for Pakistan from the UP.

They had a choice in the 40,s now they dont you are free to do what you like our doors are closed to all non Kashmiri Muslims they made a choice now they should live it out

 

[SarthakGanguly]

They had a choice in the 40,s now they dont you are free to do what you like our doors are closed to all non Kashmiri Muslims they made a choice now they should live it out

There are no such restrictions. Except a liaquat nehru pact. It can be easily overturned. Also Pakistan is not necessarily the only destination. Bangladesh is there. 51 other Muslim countries are there. Rich Nations etc... Their choice. Whether rangers shoot them on entry is not my concern.

 

[Zibago]

There are no such restrictions. Except a liaquat nehru pact. It can be easily overturned. Also Pakistan is not necessarily the only destination. Bangladesh is there. 51 other Muslim countries are there. Rich Nations etc... Their choice. Whether rangers shoot them on entry is not my concern.

The doors are closed from our side to them we now only see them as Indians (foreigners) they can only come here as tourists or pilgrims and that too after getting legit papers what you do to them is not our concern BUT we will use that against you in the UN

 

[prashantazazel]

I guess that is why Pakistan has Gharwapsi campaign which fully backed by govt people are killed every day here for eating beef and a Mass murderer became PM here and CM of Punjab is Necrophile who asks his supporters to rape dead hindu women and Pakistan also has a goal to make it minority free country in 2021

So how many leave for the paradise across the border?

 

[Zibago]

So how many leave for the paradise across the border?

In the last 20 years?
Roughly 20,000 Kashmiris

 

[prashantazazel]

In the last 20 years?
Roughly 20,000 Kashmiris

Could we interest you in some more diehard fanatics from UP, Bihar, Kerala?