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This is Karachi in 2020
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The break up isn't given by city. You'll have to actually read those reports, my friend.
If you still don't want to then give this a glance.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/971188/the-importance-of-karachi
It will explain where those nonsensical claims come from, which btw I have already have. Still,
a) Most of what Karachi collects are import duties and sales tax paid by the entirety of Pakistan at the two ports in Karachi which process 95% of Pakistan's trade. This amounts to 53.33% of all the revenue that is collected from Karachi. Suddenly that +50% of all of FBR's revenue falls down to less than 25%.
b) Of the remaining approx 25%, the majority is paid by the rest of Pakistan as sales tax on goods purchased but, again, collected in Karachi. E.g. Colgate Palmolive, Procter and Gamble, Unilever, ICI, Toyota, Engro, amongst many many others, have their head offices located in Karachi. They all collect sales tax every time they sell anything to anyone anywhere in the country. This sales tax is being paid by the consumer, not the companies. Once paid to the company by the entirety of Pakistan it is then collected by FBR from the respective companies' head offices in Karachi.
c) The remainder of the tax that is collected in Karachi is also not paid by only the people of Karachi. The entirety of Sindh and Balochistan is served by only 5 tax collection offices and units; 2 in Karachi, 1 in Hyderabad, 1 in Sukkar, 1 in Quetta. So those Rural Sindhis that you were trying to demonize also have their share in the tax collected from Karachi, so do the people living in Balochistan.
For all the raw numbers you'll have to go back to those FBR yearly reports and FBR's website. I'm afraid there is no other way. C'mon, put a little leg work into it.
You can't even read the links that you provided yourself? Even maybe just the title of the article, "Karachi tops on tax paying with less taxpayers"? Anyway,
For points 1 & 2.
The above, btw, can be easily verified from the picture of the FBR report included in that article.
Great idea. In a country of 210 million, let's take only the top 50 tax payers and extrapolate it to the entire country..........
This ranking only shows that more of the rich of Pakistan live in Karachi, nothing else. The amounts they are paying are not charity or donations given out of the goodness of their hearts. This is money owed by them to the State of Pakistan.
This list is just hilarious. UNITED BANK LIMITED, PAKISTAN PETROLEUM LIMITED, PAKISTAN STATE OIL COMPANY LIMITED, HABIB BANK LIMITED, INDUS MOTOR COMPANY LIMITED, INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL BANK OF CHINA LIMITED, so on and so forth. I advise pondering over what you're posting before you post it? Anyway, this list only further corroborates what I explained in point b) above.
Hey look! Two idiotic tweets comparing the same 50,200 tax filers out of the 52,808 in Karachi to only 3,950 tax filers out of the 55,342 in Lahore. As already clearly explained in my previous post, this is an idiotic comparison. One of them is also somehow complaining about the infrastructure in Lahore that was built by Punjab's own budget.....
Btw, please provide a source for the Rs30 billion claim. As far as FBR's report is concerned, it is only Rs8.2 billion.
Then you claim that you are not posting with an agenda.
Do you have trouble reading? The 50%-55% revenue does not come from Karachi. The very big majority of that figure comes from the rest of Pakistan and is only collected in Karachi.
"Dont say port and this and that"....? I pay my import duties and sales tax at the ports in Karachi while living and conducting my business in Lahore. You are claiming that money which I have paid as your's. This is getting ridiculous.
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According to the FBR report, the traders, retailers and wholesalers in Karachi paid tax of Rs 8,610,263,771 with only 52,808 tax filers, as compared to Lahore that despite boosting 55,342 tax filers_ the largest number of filers in Pakistan only paid Rs 5,219,983,079.[/quote]
The above, btw, can be easily verified from the picture of the FBR report included in that article.
Great idea. In a country of 210 million, let's take only the top 50 tax payers and extrapolate it to the entire country..........
This ranking only shows that more of the rich of Pakistan live in Karachi, nothing else. The amounts they are paying are not charity or donations given out of the goodness of their hearts. This is money owed by them to the State of Pakistan.
This list is just hilarious. UNITED BANK LIMITED, PAKISTAN PETROLEUM LIMITED, PAKISTAN STATE OIL COMPANY LIMITED, HABIB BANK LIMITED, INDUS MOTOR COMPANY LIMITED, INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL BANK OF CHINA LIMITED, so on and so forth. I advise pondering over what you're posting before you post it? Anyway, this list only further corroborates what I explained in point b) above.
Hey look! Two idiotic tweets comparing the same 50,200 tax filers out of the 52,808 in Karachi to only 3,950 tax filers out of the 55,342 in Lahore. As already clearly explained in my previous post, this is an idiotic comparison. One of them is also somehow complaining about the infrastructure in Lahore that was built by Punjab's own budget.....
Btw, please provide a source for the Rs30 billion claim. As far as FBR's report is concerned, it is only Rs8.2 billion.
Then you claim that you are not posting with an agenda.[/QUOTE]
Its useless because no matter what i sharw you wouldnt accept it and come up with your logics without source. I ask you abiut cities you said there are no breakups but you kept continuing it and you made everyone else false and thinking you are right. So be it man, keep thinking like this wouldnt change ground realities and then you said khi has ports this and that.
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And you are one without knowledge thinking everyone else are false and you are right, be it media, reports and all. When someone ask then say there are no breakup read it book lol and when loosig argument just say oh look karachi has port and move forward.
Keep it that way.
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Sure......And you're not trying to purposefully act dense at all. You just can't grasp childish logic. The articles you posted and I quoted, the reports from FBR, the screenshots I shared obviously are not sources either. You obviously are unable to go to the FBR yearbook reports I provided you, then to the revenue collected section by LTU and STO, then to the import duties and sales tax section. You obviously also are unable to calculate differences and percentages.
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Exactly what i said that everyone is false and you are right because not only me but all other failed to calculate the difference but you.
When ask about fbr source you share sinply said read the book there is no breakup for cities but hey just understand the report and when loosig argument just say karachi has port.
I can share more but its useless. So be it that way wouldnt change reality.
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In a survey of the country’s biggest markets, the FBR has found that Karachi pays the most tax. In fact, the tax collected from Karachi’s six biggest markets is more than the tax collected from the biggest markets in Lahore, Rawalpindi, Islamabad and Faisalabad combined.
The FBR surveyed the markets in Saddar, Tariq Road, Clifton, Golimar, DHA and Gulistan-e-Jauhar and found that they collectively paid Rs30.87 billion in taxes. There were 50,200 tax filers in these markets and the 18,744 big taxpayers paid a total of Rs29.94 billion in taxes to the government.
In comparison, Lahore’s four biggest markets paid Rs567 million in taxes. These are Anarkali, Mall Road, Hafeez Centre and Liberty Market. There are a total of 3,950 tax filers at these markets.
Rawalpindi’s big markets pay Rs1 billion in taxes and have 6,508 filers. Faisalabad’s five big markets pay Rs141 million in taxes.
Islamabad’s four big markets — Supermarket, Blue Area, F-10 Markaz and Jinnah Super — paid Rs1.93 billion in tax.
Source: Sama tv.
All failed to calculate difference
The FBR surveyed the markets in Saddar, Tariq Road, Clifton, Golimar, DHA and Gulistan-e-Jauhar and found that they collectively paid Rs30.87 billion in taxes. There were 50,200 tax filers in these markets and the 18,744 big taxpayers paid a total of Rs29.94 billion in taxes to the government.
In comparison, Lahore’s four biggest markets paid Rs567 million in taxes. These are Anarkali, Mall Road, Hafeez Centre and Liberty Market. There are a total of 3,950 tax filers at these markets.
Rawalpindi’s big markets pay Rs1 billion in taxes and have 6,508 filers. Faisalabad’s five big markets pay Rs141 million in taxes.
Islamabad’s four big markets — Supermarket, Blue Area, F-10 Markaz and Jinnah Super — paid Rs1.93 billion in tax.
Source: Sama tv.
All failed to calculate difference
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Not supporting Karachi in what way? Btw, they don't really support anyone.
It is not the job of the military or the federal government to provide better local transport or any local projects. It is the responsibility of the city government. Karachi's city government can't do it because the provincial government of Sindh does not allow it its due share from the provincial budget. Federal funds are meant for projects of national import. They can be spent on local emergencies though, e.g. the flooding situation in Karachi.
There's no doubt that the PPP is running the city into the ground.
No one except for the people themselves. But for that we would need to shed false narratives, regional politics, and personal prejudices.
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And that article I provided and the actual economist it quotes, both of which you are trying to pretend I did not provide.
I'm beginning to think that you are actually cognitively impaired. I mean, even the statement that you have quoted yourself clearly states that it is only comparing the amount paid by specific markets in Karachi to the amount paid by the specific markets in other cities. It even tells you that it is comparing 50,200 tax filers from Karachi to only 3,950 tax filers in Lahore and 6,508 in Rawalpindi. You are comparing massive markets with 50,200 businesses with minuscule markets that only have 3,950 businesses.
Furthermore, your own links contradict each other on the amount paid by those markets in Karachi. Heck even the blessed FBR report which this two-bit Samaa article is quoting as its source gives the amount paid in Karachi as Rs 8.6 billion and not Rs30 billion and Lahore's at 5.2 billion and not 500 some million. Clearly the FBR report got it wrong and Samaa didn't.
I mean how dense can you be?
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I'm beginning to think that you are actually cognitively impaired. I mean, even the statement that you have quoted yourself clearly states that it is only comparing the amount paid by specific markets in Karachi to the amount paid by the specific markets in other cities. It even tells you that it is comparing 50,200 tax filers from Karachi to only 3,950 tax filers in Lahore and 6,508 in Rawalpindi.
Furthermore, your own links contradict each other on the amount paid by those markets in Karachi. Heck even the blessed FBR report which this two-bit Samaa article is quoting as its source gives the amount paid in Karachi as Rs 8.6 billion and not Rs30 billion and Lahore's at 5.2 billion and not 500 some million. Clearly the FBR report got it wrong and Samaa didn't.
I mean how dense can you be?
Yeah like you shared very authentic thing which is a book and just understand the difference when asked. I already shared enough and your end answer was karachi has port so be it because you have nothing more to shared just keep repeating while you haven't answered mine just manipulate things here and there.
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...................You mean the Yearbook from FBR itself?I'm sorry bud, but you shared garbage. You even posted articles which testify to what I have stated and denied your claims. The shameless dishonesty you are willing to exhibit just to stick to your disingenuous political narratives is, quite frankly, embarrassing.
I'm certain all that I have shared is enough for any adult who has passed 5th grade to reach the correct conclusion.
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