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Political parties and political system is like glass and crystal.

you have to be extremely careful while handling it.

IK on the other hand is running around like a mad elephant crushing everything in sight. Sadly.

His party's president? Gone!
many party MNA's? Gone!
His party's branch in KP? disagreeing openly!


And he came to make Nwaz Sharif to resign
unfortunately his own friends are now resigning from Irman Badshah's dictatorship

and he has been reduced to begging the speaker

Please kick these guys out for me. please please please.

This is a great downfall for IK

But emotional and childish crowd clapping for King Imran refuses to see the reality.


Imran disowns dissident PTI MNAs

By Khawar Ghumman
Updated about 8 hours ago

PTI Chairman Imran Khan. — File photo
ISLAMABAD: Imran Khan is not in a forgiving mood. The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman wrote to the speaker of the National Assembly on Friday, seeking the de-seating of three dissident PTI lawmakers who have not submitted their resignations alongside other PTI parliamentarians.

In letters dated September 24, Mr Khan, as party chief and parliamentary leader of the PTI, quoted Article 63A of the Constitution and asked the speaker and the chief election commissioner (CEC) to consider the seats of MNAs Nasir Khattak (NA-15), Gulzar Khan (NA-4) and Ms Musarrat Zeb (reserved seat) vacated for violating party discipline.

Know more: ‘Angry’ PTI MNAs opposed to resignation form group

The PTI chairman, in three separate letters, has informed the speaker and the CEC that the three MNAs had not complied with the party’s unanimous decision, taken on August 4, whereby all party lawmakers were to hand over their resignations to the party leadership. The PTI core committee also endorsed the decision.

However, Mr Khattak, Mr Gulzar and Ms Zeb “in disregard and disobedience of the unanimous decision of the party failed to tender their resignations and, therefore, were issued show-cause notices. Their replies to the notices were found unsatisfactory and untenable,” the letters said.

“In accordance with the PTI constitution, the PTI chairman terminated their basic membership.”

As the three have defected from the party, their seats are liable to be vacated in terms of Article 63A of the constitution, Mr Khan was quoted as saying in the concluding paragraph of the letters addressed to both the speaker and the CEC.

However, legal experts have differing opinions about the PTI chairman’s ability to invoke Article 63A.

Talking to Dawn, former law minister S.M. Zafar, who was also part of the constitutional committee that drafted the seminal 18th constitutional amendment, said, “At least 63A doesn’t cover the charge which the PTI chairman is using to seek their (the three MNAs) ousting from the house.”

The Article 63A lays down certain preconditions, which lead to disqualification on the grounds of defection. It says, “ If a member of a parliamentary party, composed of a single political party in a house, resigns from membership of his political party or joins another parliamentary party; or votes or abstains from voting in the house contrary to any direction issued by the parliamentary party to which he belongs, in relation to (i) election of the Prime Minister or the Chief Minister; or (ii) a vote of confidence or a vote of no-confidence; (iii) a money bill or a constitution (amendment) bill.”

As long as this constitutional provision is concerned, Mr Zafar insisted, neither the speaker nor the CEC could entertain the PTI leader’s application.

However, PTI’s resident legal expert and former president of the Supreme Court Bar Association, Hamid Khan, argued that according to the spirit of 63A, if someone was outside the party, he/she shouldn’t hold the seat they had won in the name of that particular party.

The issue isn’t whether the speaker or the CEC can accept the PTI’s contention. “It’s a message which the PTI intends to send out loud and clear, i.e. the party has taken a principled decision to quit the National Assembly and whosoever defies it has no future in the party.”

The PTI had 33 MNAs in the National Assembly, of whom 30 have submitted their resignations, which are currently with the speaker. Mr Ayaz Sadiq has asked the resigning PTI lawmakers to personally appear before him to confirm their notices. But the PTI argues they should be treated as one group and invited together.

It is worth noting that if Imran Khan’s resignation from the National Assembly had already been accepted, as the party insists, he would not be in a position as the parliamentary leader of PTI to even make this request.

Published in Dawn, September 27th , 2014
 
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IK comes out as a very eager guy who desires PMship. Patience is a virtue and politics needs a lot of patience, one needs to wait for his chance at the race when the race starts. The intermediate time is to be used for fine tuning and putting in place strategies and a team for the race. Even assuming that he is successful in pulling the present govt down..what happens if there is a midterm election and he loses again - and against seasoned politicians like NS ans Zardari - I doubt whether he even has a long shot.
 
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Political parties and political system is like glass and crystal.

you have to be extremely careful while handling it.

IK on the other hand is running around like a mad elephant crushing everything in sight. Sadly.

His party's president? Gone!
many party MNA's? Gone!
His party's branch in KP? disagreeing openly!


And he came to make Nwaz Sharif to resign
unfortunately his own friends are now resigning from Irman Badshah's dictatorship

and he has been reduced to begging the speaker

Please kick these guys out for me. please please please.

This is a great downfall for IK

But emotional and childish crowd clapping for King Imran refuses to see the reality.

Imran disowns dissident PTI MNAs
By Khawar Ghumman
Updated about 8 hours ago

PTI Chairman Imran Khan. — File photo
ISLAMABAD: Imran Khan is not in a forgiving mood. The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman wrote to the speaker of the National Assembly on Friday, seeking the de-seating of three dissident PTI lawmakers who have not submitted their resignations alongside other PTI parliamentarians.

In letters dated September 24, Mr Khan, as party chief and parliamentary leader of the PTI, quoted Article 63A of the Constitution and asked the speaker and the chief election commissioner (CEC) to consider the seats of MNAs Nasir Khattak (NA-15), Gulzar Khan (NA-4) and Ms Musarrat Zeb (reserved seat) vacated for violating party discipline.

Know more: ‘Angry’ PTI MNAs opposed to resignation form group

The PTI chairman, in three separate letters, has informed the speaker and the CEC that the three MNAs had not complied with the party’s unanimous decision, taken on August 4, whereby all party lawmakers were to hand over their resignations to the party leadership. The PTI core committee also endorsed the decision.

However, Mr Khattak, Mr Gulzar and Ms Zeb “in disregard and disobedience of the unanimous decision of the party failed to tender their resignations and, therefore, were issued show-cause notices. Their replies to the notices were found unsatisfactory and untenable,” the letters said.

“In accordance with the PTI constitution, the PTI chairman terminated their basic membership.”

As the three have defected from the party, their seats are liable to be vacated in terms of Article 63A of the constitution, Mr Khan was quoted as saying in the concluding paragraph of the letters addressed to both the speaker and the CEC.

However, legal experts have differing opinions about the PTI chairman’s ability to invoke Article 63A.

Talking to Dawn, former law minister S.M. Zafar, who was also part of the constitutional committee that drafted the seminal 18th constitutional amendment, said, “At least 63A doesn’t cover the charge which the PTI chairman is using to seek their (the three MNAs) ousting from the house.”

The Article 63A lays down certain preconditions, which lead to disqualification on the grounds of defection. It says, “ If a member of a parliamentary party, composed of a single political party in a house, resigns from membership of his political party or joins another parliamentary party; or votes or abstains from voting in the house contrary to any direction issued by the parliamentary party to which he belongs, in relation to (i) election of the Prime Minister or the Chief Minister; or (ii) a vote of confidence or a vote of no-confidence; (iii) a money bill or a constitution (amendment) bill.”

As long as this constitutional provision is concerned, Mr Zafar insisted, neither the speaker nor the CEC could entertain the PTI leader’s application.

However, PTI’s resident legal expert and former president of the Supreme Court Bar Association, Hamid Khan, argued that according to the spirit of 63A, if someone was outside the party, he/she shouldn’t hold the seat they had won in the name of that particular party.

The issue isn’t whether the speaker or the CEC can accept the PTI’s contention. “It’s a message which the PTI intends to send out loud and clear, i.e. the party has taken a principled decision to quit the National Assembly and whosoever defies it has no future in the party.”

The PTI had 33 MNAs in the National Assembly, of whom 30 have submitted their resignations, which are currently with the speaker. Mr Ayaz Sadiq has asked the resigning PTI lawmakers to personally appear before him to confirm their notices. But the PTI argues they should be treated as one group and invited together.

It is worth noting that if Imran Khan’s resignation from the National Assembly had already been accepted, as the party insists, he would not be in a position as the parliamentary leader of PTI to even make this request.

Published in Dawn, September 27th , 2014

For IK its just like in Punjabi...

Ujjarrrrrrd tay gaye aaaaaan
par sawssssad bara aya aye


:rofl:
 
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Political parties and political system is like glass and crystal.

you have to be extremely careful while handling it.

IK on the other hand is running around like a mad elephant crushing everything in sight. Sadly.

His party's president? Gone!
many party MNA's? Gone!
His party's branch in KP? disagreeing openly!


And he came to make Nwaz Sharif to resign
unfortunately his own friends are now resigning from Irman Badshah's dictatorship

and he has been reduced to begging the speaker

Please kick these guys out for me. please please please.

This is a great downfall for IK

But emotional and childish crowd clapping for King Imran refuses to see the reality.


Imran disowns dissident PTI MNAs

By Khawar Ghumman
Updated about 8 hours ago

PTI Chairman Imran Khan. — File photo
ISLAMABAD: Imran Khan is not in a forgiving mood. The Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman wrote to the speaker of the National Assembly on Friday, seeking the de-seating of three dissident PTI lawmakers who have not submitted their resignations alongside other PTI parliamentarians.

In letters dated September 24, Mr Khan, as party chief and parliamentary leader of the PTI, quoted Article 63A of the Constitution and asked the speaker and the chief election commissioner (CEC) to consider the seats of MNAs Nasir Khattak (NA-15), Gulzar Khan (NA-4) and Ms Musarrat Zeb (reserved seat) vacated for violating party discipline.

Know more: ‘Angry’ PTI MNAs opposed to resignation form group

The PTI chairman, in three separate letters, has informed the speaker and the CEC that the three MNAs had not complied with the party’s unanimous decision, taken on August 4, whereby all party lawmakers were to hand over their resignations to the party leadership. The PTI core committee also endorsed the decision.

However, Mr Khattak, Mr Gulzar and Ms Zeb “in disregard and disobedience of the unanimous decision of the party failed to tender their resignations and, therefore, were issued show-cause notices. Their replies to the notices were found unsatisfactory and untenable,” the letters said.

“In accordance with the PTI constitution, the PTI chairman terminated their basic membership.”

As the three have defected from the party, their seats are liable to be vacated in terms of Article 63A of the constitution, Mr Khan was quoted as saying in the concluding paragraph of the letters addressed to both the speaker and the CEC.

However, legal experts have differing opinions about the PTI chairman’s ability to invoke Article 63A.

Talking to Dawn, former law minister S.M. Zafar, who was also part of the constitutional committee that drafted the seminal 18th constitutional amendment, said, “At least 63A doesn’t cover the charge which the PTI chairman is using to seek their (the three MNAs) ousting from the house.”

The Article 63A lays down certain preconditions, which lead to disqualification on the grounds of defection. It says, “ If a member of a parliamentary party, composed of a single political party in a house, resigns from membership of his political party or joins another parliamentary party; or votes or abstains from voting in the house contrary to any direction issued by the parliamentary party to which he belongs, in relation to (i) election of the Prime Minister or the Chief Minister; or (ii) a vote of confidence or a vote of no-confidence; (iii) a money bill or a constitution (amendment) bill.”

As long as this constitutional provision is concerned, Mr Zafar insisted, neither the speaker nor the CEC could entertain the PTI leader’s application.

However, PTI’s resident legal expert and former president of the Supreme Court Bar Association, Hamid Khan, argued that according to the spirit of 63A, if someone was outside the party, he/she shouldn’t hold the seat they had won in the name of that particular party.

The issue isn’t whether the speaker or the CEC can accept the PTI’s contention. “It’s a message which the PTI intends to send out loud and clear, i.e. the party has taken a principled decision to quit the National Assembly and whosoever defies it has no future in the party.”

The PTI had 33 MNAs in the National Assembly, of whom 30 have submitted their resignations, which are currently with the speaker. Mr Ayaz Sadiq has asked the resigning PTI lawmakers to personally appear before him to confirm their notices. But the PTI argues they should be treated as one group and invited together.

It is worth noting that if Imran Khan’s resignation from the National Assembly had already been accepted, as the party insists, he would not be in a position as the parliamentary leader of PTI to even make this request.

Published in Dawn, September 27th , 2014
You got it wrong here PTI is Imran Khan as long as he is there nothing is going to happen to PTI but these are dreams off some supporters off current corrupt system
 
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You got it wrong here PTI is Imran Khan as long as he is there nothing is going to happen to PTI but these are dreams off some supporters off current corrupt system

you mean one man show?

just like our Altaf Hussain

hahaha
 
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you mean one man show?

just like our Altaf Hussain

hahaha
That is a sad reality of Pakistan. Be it political parties PMLN,PPP,PTI etc. Also other institutions mostly do the same. Army in almost every COAS's case. Judiciary in Iftikhar Chaudhry's case.
 
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That is a sad reality of Pakistan. Be it political parties PMLN,PPP,PTI etc. Also other institutions mostly do the same. Army in almost every COAS's case. Judiciary in Iftikhar Chaudhry's case.

Sorry to disagree on one point.

Army is an exception. There has never been a one man show. They give 5 years max then you are out even if you are Musharraf or Ayub.
 
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you mean one man show?

just like our Altaf Hussain

hahaha
Yes till now until Imran comes to power become PM for two terms and than leaves only than our political parties will change and have elections inside
 
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That is a sad reality of Pakistan. Be it political parties PMLN,PPP,PTI etc. Also other institutions mostly do the same. Army in almost every COAS's case. Judiciary in Iftikhar Chaudhry's case.
Army every where is the same
 
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Yes till now until Imran comes to power become PM for two terms and than leaves only than our political parties will change and have elections inside

na 9 mun tail hoga
na radha naachay gee

So enjoy Imran's dance while you can.
He knows how to dance away his party.
 
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Sorry to disagree on one point.

Army is an exception. There has never been a one man show. They give 5 years max then you are out even if you are Musharraf or Ayub.
I meant as long as they are serving, their opinion and decisions matter with no questions asked or dissent. In political party, they disagree and leave.
 
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I meant as long as they are serving, their opinion and decisions matter with no questions asked or dissent. In political party, they disagree and leave.

you must be talking about Egyptian army and Mubarak

yea.


but in Pakistan, COAS is ceremonial post. The real power lies with corps commanders.
 
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you mean one man show?

just like our Altaf Hussain

hahaha
Don't get me started on Hashmi. I belong to the constituency which is very near to his current one and also my constituency used to be part of that. As of now, no PMLN candidate is contesting against him and he is almost begging PPP to withdraw their candidate. It was all part of deal. IK is not a "real politician" and he ends up paying for that. :-)

you must be talking about Egyptian army and Mubarak

yea.


but in Pakistan, COAS is ceremonial post. The real power lies with corps commanders.
So corps commanders gave the approval for NRO ?
 
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nonsense review.. unless you support Hippocratic politics... there are things beyond ones carrier that no one can look into....He might not become a prime minister or president but he has shown us the way to rise against the status quo and against vip culture... not everything is in calculations ..not everything is 2+2 ..not everything is saving myself to become a general and than retire with a nice house and a bank balance... there are things which the ones with calculated materialistic minds will never be able to understand .. its the mind of insane .. the ones blind in their thought and desire , ones who are passionate in what soever they believe in ...its these type of people who have changed the course of history..... if you want to see the example look and see Tariq bin zayad, Quaid e Azam, who could have thought of Tariq entering a unknown land and occupying it without military backup, and Muhammad Ali Jinnah many thought he has ruined his carrier by joining Muslim league..... on other end of spectrum you can see General Niazi who with 90,000 armed men just could not carry it on and politics of Gorbachev..... When Mandela was in Jail many at that time would have thought he is running his carrier and life for a unachievable goal... these are the blind eyes of the material world that cannot see the world of these passionately blind leaders
 
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