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This dogfight between 200 Israeli and Syrian jets was one of the biggest of all time

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    Israel has a history of conflict with its neighbors, especially from the 1960s through the 1980s. A series of small battles with Egypt resulted in some hard lessons learned for the Israeli Air Force after it lost numerous fighters to surface-to-air missiles.

    But the IAF learned its lessons, and on June 9, 1982, it attacked 19 Syrian surface-to-air missile batteries deployed near the border. In the first two hours of fighting, the IAF destroyed 17 of the missile batteries with no losses. Then things really went nuts.

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    TSGT KEVIN J. GRUENWALD, USAF via CommonsIsraeli Air Force F-15s flying in Red Flag 2004.





    The Syrians sent up 100 MiGs to intercept the 96 F-15s, F-16s, and F-4s that were attacking the SAM sites. The Israelis were flying an E-2C Hawkeye airborne warning and control system aircraft that picked up the incoming fighters. It began feeding instructions to the IAF fighters.

    The more advanced Israeli fighters, firing both Sidewinder heat-seeking and Sparrow radar-guided missiles, destroyed 29 of the Syrian fighters.

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    Wikimedia CommonsOne of the Syrian Air Force’s main fighters in the conflict was the MiG-21, like this one.





    But the IAF wasn't done. There were still two missile sites it wanted gone. So it returned June 10. Again, the bulk of Syria's air force lifted off to greet the fighters, and the IAF proved overwhelming, downing another 35 Syrian aircraft with no Israeli losses.





    The stunning victory was due to numerous factors. The Israeli pilots had benefited from great training and a lot of combat experience, but the Syrians had also screwed themselves.

    The Syrians fed their pilots instructions from a ground control station that couldn't communicate because of Israeli jamming. In an Air Power Journal article, a Western military observer of the battle says, "I watched a group of Syrian fighter planes fly figure-eights. They just flew around and around and obviously had no idea what to do next."

    Lt. Gen. Leonard Perroots, director of the US Defense Intelligence Agency at the time, trashed the lazy deployment of Syrian missile sites. "The Syrians used mobile missiles in a fixed configuration; they put the radars in the valley instead of the hills because they didn’t want to dig latrines–seriously."

    The conflict between the two countries continued through July 1982. In over a month of fighting, Israel lost only two jets, while Syria lost at least 87.

 
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I read a book titled Arabs at War, military effectiveness 1948-1991 by Kenneth Pollack, which amazingly explains why the Arabs suck at war.

The Arabs always fight a war when they outnumber their enemy and have better equipment but still have their asses kicked.

If you think this was bad, you'll be surprised that an advanced Libyan army of 40,000 soldiers with 2,000 Soviet Tanks, APCs, advanced planes and so on, were defeated by 10,000 Africans in trucks.
 
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Someone is weak at history and probably a racist scum bag.

• Iran-Iraq war: Iraq invaded when it had 200,000 soldiers 2,700 Tanks + 3,000 APC/IFV + 300 combat aircraft while Iran had 100,000 soldiers 500 tanks + 100 combat aircraft

• Chad-Libya conflict: 40,000 Libyan soldiers with 2,000 tanks, an equal number of APC/IFVs + large amounts of artillery While Chad had 10-20,000 Soldiers with no heavy equipment , just pick-up trucks

• Ogaden war: 40,000 Somali soldiers invaded Ethiopia which had half that number protecting the border (Somalis are Arabized Africans, so they count.)
 
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• Iran-Iraq war: Iraq invaded when it had 200,000 soldiers 2,700 Tanks + 3,000 APC/IFV + 300 combat aircraft while Iran had 100,000 soldiers 500 tanks + 100 combat aircraft

• Chad-Libya conflict: 40,000 Libyan soldiers with 2,000 tanks, an equal number of APC/IFVs + large amounts of artillery While Chad had 10-20,000 Soldiers with no heavy equipment , just pick-up trucks

• Ogaden war: 40,000 Somali soldiers invaded Ethiopia which had half that number protecting the border (Somalis are Arabized Africans, so they count.)

When you dont have the tech/Strength(Vs-a-Vs), you have to rely on the numbers doing most of the part.
 
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• Iran-Iraq war: Iraq invaded when it had 200,000 soldiers 2,700 Tanks + 3,000 APC/IFV + 300 combat aircraft while Iran had 100,000 soldiers 500 tanks + 100 combat aircraft

• Chad-Libya conflict: 40,000 Libyan soldiers with 2,000 tanks, an equal number of APC/IFVs + large amounts of artillery While Chad had 10-20,000 Soldiers with no heavy equipment , just pick-up trucks

• Ogaden war: 40,000 Somali soldiers invaded Ethiopia which had half that number protecting the border (Somalis are Arabized Africans, so they count.)

Somali's aren't Arab chief!
 
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I read a book titled Arabs at War, military effectiveness 1948-1991 by Kenneth Pollack, which amazingly explains why the Arabs suck at war.

The Arabs always fight a war when they outnumber their enemy and have better equipment but still have their asses kicked.

If you think this was bad, you'll be surprised that an advanced Libyan army of 40,000 soldiers with 2,000 Soviet Tanks, APCs, advanced planes and so on, were defeated by 10,000 Africans in trucks.
ouch @jamahir !
 
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I always get confused about this. Somalia is in Arab League, right ? I wonder what is that supposed to mean.

It means they are a member of the Arab league, it does not mean they are "Arabs'. A quick google will tell you that their ethnic origin is Afro-Asiatic, I have worked in Somali and Somali's don't identify themselves as Arabs. They are about as Arab as Bengali's are Chinese.
 
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Ullu dey phattey, you couldn't make this shit up could you. To think this nation was the birthplace of one of the greatest generals in history -_-.

Screw the current day Arabs,, which general you are talking about? Saladin? Because if you were pointing toward this great general i am afraid he was not born in Syria but in Iraq. Really interested in knowing which general you refered to.

Ullu dey phattey, you couldn't make this shit up could you. To think this nation was the birthplace of one of the greatest generals in history -_-.

Screw the current day Arabs,, which general you are talking about? Saladin? Because if you were pointing toward this great general i am afraid he was not born in Syria but in Iraq. Really interested in knowing which general you refered to.
 
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Screw the current day Arabs,, which general you are talking about? Saladin? Because if you were pointing toward this great general i am afraid he was not born in Syria but in Iraq. Really interested in knowing which general you refered to.



Screw the current day Arabs,, which general you are talking about? Saladin? Because if you were pointing toward this great general i am afraid he was not born in Syria but in Iraq. Really interested in knowing which general you refered to.

Nur ud Din, if I recall correctly, he was a Syrian.
 
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Israel's air dominance over immediately surrounding region is unquestioned. Good planning, excellent training and access to sophisticated hardware gives them an edge no Arab air force has.
 
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