Think before you own allegations - How Pakistanis should respond Indian propaganda

[graphican]

Twitter post by Gaurav Arya is an example how enemy builds narrative against you by fabrication and twisting of facts. Larn so you could respond.


"A Pakistani vandalised Guru Arjan Dev Ji Gurudwara Sahib at Derby, UK. He has been arrested. This man was upset about Kashmir. So, he vandalised a Gurudwara in UK.

Typical. Doesn’t have the guts to come to Kashmir and so, picks a location where his VICTIM CARD will work."

Here I have deciphered how Gaurav Arya and Arnab Goswami play this game.

They use insult-full provocative questions
"Typical: Doesn't have guts to come to Kashmir"

They put a question before you that is an insult (Doesn't have guts) but the courageous response to that question would be an act of terrorism. Either way, its a trap. Many Pakistani participants in their TV show have fallen to this trap.

As a solution, start answer independent of the framing of such questions. You are free to pick your foundation, independent of the two choices they trapped you to pic from.

Wrong use of identity
"A Paksitani vandalised..."

Use of unconfirmed truths

• This person lives in UK (confirmed) and could be Muslim (not confirmed) and could be a Pakistani (not confirmed). Do not take their words as proven facts. He may be an Afghan and if this was the case, the blaming wouldn't work.

Use of contradicting-truth

• A fact: You are not a Muslim when you do the opposite of what Islam says.
• A fact: A person who doesn't follow the constitution of Pakistan is a criminal Pakistani, to say the least.

As a solution: do not accept a person as a Muslim who in reality is anti-Islam. You are Muslim because you follow Islam and you are not a Muslim when you do opposite to what Islam says. Do not accept someone being called a Muslim when he is blatantly against Islam. The best name for such a person is Not-Follower-Of-Islam instead of a "follower of Islam" or "a Muslim".

Likewise, vandalism is a crime in Pakistan and if this person had committed that in Pakistan, he would've been prosecuted. Do not call him Paksitani unless you prefix "offender" before his identity. Save yourself from falling into your enemy's traps.

Deflecting anger away from Hindus to Sikhs
"This man was upset about Kashmir. So, he vandalised a Gurudwara in UK"

Gaurav and Arnab hide the facts and portray that Muslims are angry at Sikhs instead of Hindus for crimes in Kashmir. Facts are;

• India is run by a Hindu RSS Government
• under a Hindu RSS Prime Minister Narendra Modi,
• together with a gang of Hindu RSS politicians.

When above is true;

• Why would anyone attack Sikhs place of worship? Likewise, why would anyone vandalise a Masjid blaming Muslims of India for terrorism in Kashmir?
• Sikhs are anti-India and against the abuse in Kashmir themselves.
• No one in Pakistan or outside Pakistan has ever blamed Sikhs for unrest in Kashmir, so why are they being attacked alone (in Afghanistan earlier) and now in the UK.

Pakistan's opportunity to expose real culprits
Pakistanis do not blame Sikhs for the situation in Kashmir. No Pakistani will attempt aggression against Sikhs either. Why is this person then like that? Who fed him? Who paid him? Who told him to do what he did. This needs to be investigated. If he has been encouraged to do that, those people should be exposed. This is Pakistan's opportunity to expose enemies of Sikhs and reveal to them who in reality is harming them and their places of worship!


@graphican
26th May 2020

@Horus @Agnostic @waz @Dubious @HRKMuSliM @araz @airomerix @Arsalan @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @BHarwana @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Foxtrot Alpha @ghazi52 @Hodor @Irfan Baloch @Imran Khan @Jango @Knuckles @krash @LeGenD @Moonlight @Side-Winder @Socra @Aamir Hussain @Adam_Khan @Ahmet Pasha @Akh1112 @aliyusuf @ARMalik @Angry Easterling @assasiner @Blacklight @crankthatskunk @Cookie Monster @Counter-Errorist @Dil Pakistan @Falcon26 @Flight of falcon @FuturePAF @GriffinsRule @Gryphon @GumNaam @Haris Ali2140 @Hakikat ve Hikmet @HawkEye27 @I S I @Khanivore @khansaheeb @khanasifm @Liquidmetal @loanranger @Maxpane @Mirage Battle Commander @Microsoft @mingle @Mrc @mshan44 @Muhammad Omar @NA71 @Nasr @notorious_eagle @Pakhtoon yum @Pakistani Fighter @PAKISTANFOREVER @PakShaheen79 @Path-Finder @PDFChamp @PWFI @Rafi @Reichsmarschall @Riz @Safriz @Shane @Signalian @Starlord @Stealth @StormBreaker @The Accountant @TheTallGuy @Tank131 @Thorough Pro @TOPGUN @Tps43 @TsAr @Trango Towers @undercover JIX @Verve @ziaulislam @Zulfiqar
@ps3linux

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Come on!!! India's redemption lies in Pak's destruction!!! Even a donkey in Pak shouldn't bother or give the slightest attention to what the Indians are sayin'...

Do what you have to do...

*I don't read any comment from the Indians 99.9% of the time. If an Indian reply to any of my posts I put him in the ignore list first

 

[graphican]

Come on!!! India's redemption lies in Pak's destruction!!! If a donkey in Pak shouldn't bother or give the slightest attention to what the Indians are sayin'...

Do what you have to do...

*I never read any comment from the Indians 99.9% of the time. If an Indian reply to any of my posts I put him in the ignore list first

Not many people analyse this evil pattern and fall prey to it. Times and again they use question traps to label Pakistanis for supporting terrorism.

Ignoring is not a response, especially when the enemy is filling www with their lies.

 

[aliyusuf]

Twitter post by Gaurav Arya is an example how enemy builds narrative against you by fabrication and twisting of facts. Larn so you could respond.

View attachment 635542
"A Pakistani vandalised Guru Arjan Dev Ji Gurudwara Sahib at Derby, UK. He has been arrested. This man was upset about Kashmir. So, he vandalised a Gurudwara in UK.

Typical. Doesn’t have the guts to come to Kashmir and so, picks a location where his VICTIM CARD will work."

Here I have deciphered how Gaurav Arya and Arnab Goswami play this game.

They use insult-full provocative questions
"Typical: Doesn't have guts to come to Kashmir"

They put a question before you that is an insult (Doesn't have guts) but the courageous response to that question would be an act of terrorism. Either way, its a trap. Many Pakistani participants in their TV show have fallen to this trap.

As a solution, start answer independent of the framing of such questions. You are free to pick your foundation, independent of the two choices they trapped you to pic from.

Wrong use of identity
"A Paksitani vandalised..."

Use of unconfirmed truths

• This person lives in UK (confirmed) and could be Muslim (not confirmed) and could be a Pakistani (not confirmed). Do not take their words as proven facts. He may be a Kashmiri and if this was the case, the blaming wouldn't work.

Use of contradicting-truth

• You are not a Muslim when you do the opposite of what Islam says.
• A person who doesn't follow the constitution of Pakistan is a criminal Paksitani, to say the least.

As a solution: do not accept a person as a Muslim who in reality is anti-Islam. You are Muslim because you follow Islam and you are not a Muslim when you do opposite to what Islam says. Do not accept someone being called a Muslim when he is blatantly against Islam. The best name for such a person is Not-Follower-Of-Islam instead of a "follower of Islam" or "a Muslim".

Likewise, vandalism is a crime in Pakistan and if this person had committed that in Pakistan, he would've been prosecuted. Do not call him Paksitani unless you prefix "offender" before his identity. Save yourself from falling into your enemy's traps.

Deflecting anger away from Hindus to Sikhs
"This man was upset about Kashmir. So, he vandalised a Gurudwara in UK"

Gaurav and Arnab hide the facts and portray that Muslims are angry at Sikhs instead of Hindus for crimes in Kashmir. Facts are;

• India is run by a Hindu RSS Government
• under a Hindu RSS Prime Minister Narendra Modi,
• together with a gang of Hindu RSS politicians.

When above is true;

• Why would anyone attack Sikhs place of worship? Likewise, why would anyone vandalise a Masjid blaming Muslims of India for terrorism in Kashmir?
• Sikhs are anti-India and against the abuse in Kashmir themselves.
• No one in Pakistan or outside Pakistan has ever blamed Sikhs for unrest in Kashmir, so why are they being attacked alone (in Afghanistan earlier) and now in the UK.

Pakistan's opportunity to expose real culprits
Pakistanis do not blame Sikhs for the situation in Kashmir. No Pakistani will attempt aggression against Sikhs either. Why is this person then like that? Who fed him? Who paid him? Who told him to do what he did. This needs to be investigated. If he has been encouraged to do that, those people should be exposed. This is Pakistan's opportunity to expose enemies of Sikhs and reveal to them who in reality is harming them and their places of worship!


@graphican
26th May 2020

@Horus @Agnostic @waz @Dubious @HRKMuSliM @araz @airomerix @Arsalan @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @BHarwana @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Foxtrot Alpha @ghazi52 @Hodor @Irfan Baloch @Imran Khan @Jango @Knuckles @krash @LeGenD @Moonlight @Side-Winder @Socra @Aamir Hussain @Adam_Khan @Ahmet Pasha @Akh1112 @aliyusuf @ARMalik @Angry Easterling @assasiner @Blacklight @crankthatskunk @Cookie Monster @Counter-Errorist @Dil Pakistan @Falcon26 @Flight of falcon @FuturePAF @GriffinsRule @Gryphon @GumNaam @Haris Ali2140 @Hakikat ve Hikmet @HawkEye27 @I S I @Khanivore @khansaheeb @khanasifm @Liquidmetal @loanranger @Maxpane @Mirage Battle Commander @Microsoft @mingle @Mrc @mshan44 @Muhammad Omar @NA71 @Nasr @notorious_eagle @Pakhtoon yum @Pakistani Fighter @PAKISTANFOREVER @PakShaheen79 @Path-Finder @PDFChamp @PWFI @Rafi @Reichsmarschall @Riz @Safriz @Shane @Signalian @Starlord @Stealth @StormBreaker @The Accountant @TheTallGuy @Tank131 @Thorough Pro @TOPGUN @Tps43 @TsAr @Trango Towers @undercover JIX @Verve @ziaulislam @Zulfiqar
@ps3linux

Ignoring their garbage propaganda and not responding to them and neither giving them any attention here on the forum would be the best policy. Let dogs bark ... barking dogs seldom bite ... and this particular one has been kicked where it has jolted them hard in February last year ... hence all the rubbish hoopla.

 

[KhanBaba2]

• This person lives in UK (confirmed) and could be Muslim (not confirmed) and could be a Pakistani (not confirmed). Do not take their words as proven facts. He may be a Kashmiri and if this was the case, the blaming wouldn't work.

Thank you for implying that a Kashmiri is not a Pakistani.

 

[aliyusuf]

Ignore is not a productive response, especially when the enemy is filling www with their lies.

It is better to have them revel in their false narrative and lies and then falling prey to their own propaganda and false bravado when the next encounter occurs. Lies don't change the reality. We shouldn't need acclaim and should draw courage from our actual potential. So spread of lies shouldn't bother us ... most of the world is not that naive.

There is a saying ... You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time ... but you can never fool all of the people all of the time.

 

[drumstick]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/attack-on-gurudwara-sahib-at-derby-suspect-arrested-by-uk.668108/

read this quietly first.

 

[graphican]

Thank you for implying that a Kashmiri is not a Pakistani.

Then it will be Kashmiri fighting for Kashmir, a resident of disputed territory fighting for its territory. This fact would suck the blood out of Indian propaganda.

 

[drumstick]

Thank you for implying that a Kashmiri is not a Pakistani.

dont reply this is anyhow its a trollfest. if you follow the link i pasted above pls.... it had some rational discussion from so good pakistani members and even mods.

thats the whole truth and nothing more than that ....

 

[padamchen]

Like post the Delhi Intifada, the Indian Muslim is the best ally of the rising Hindutva wave, internationally Pakistan and Pakistani diaspora are India's best allies.

These are undisputed facts.

 

[crankthatskunk]

In the hands of an intelligent person, Gaurv and Arnab are meat and drink.
They have nothing but shouting and insults.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Great thread brother, please tag me in the next one.

Mods, he deserves some positive ratings. On a role lately.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

Twitter post by Gaurav Arya is an example how enemy builds narrative against you by fabrication and twisting of facts. Larn so you could respond.

View attachment 635542
"A Pakistani vandalised Guru Arjan Dev Ji Gurudwara Sahib at Derby, UK. He has been arrested. This man was upset about Kashmir. So, he vandalised a Gurudwara in UK.

Typical. Doesn’t have the guts to come to Kashmir and so, picks a location where his VICTIM CARD will work."

Here I have deciphered how Gaurav Arya and Arnab Goswami play this game.

They use insult-full provocative questions
"Typical: Doesn't have guts to come to Kashmir"

They put a question before you that is an insult (Doesn't have guts) but the courageous response to that question would be an act of terrorism. Either way, its a trap. Many Pakistani participants in their TV show have fallen to this trap.

As a solution, start answer independent of the framing of such questions. You are free to pick your foundation, independent of the two choices they trapped you to pic from.

Wrong use of identity
"A Paksitani vandalised..."

Use of unconfirmed truths

• This person lives in UK (confirmed) and could be Muslim (not confirmed) and could be a Pakistani (not confirmed). Do not take their words as proven facts. He may be an Afghan and if this was the case, the blaming wouldn't work.

Use of contradicting-truth

• A fact: You are not a Muslim when you do the opposite of what Islam says.
• A fact: A person who doesn't follow the constitution of Pakistan is a criminal Pakistani, to say the least.

As a solution: do not accept a person as a Muslim who in reality is anti-Islam. You are Muslim because you follow Islam and you are not a Muslim when you do opposite to what Islam says. Do not accept someone being called a Muslim when he is blatantly against Islam. The best name for such a person is Not-Follower-Of-Islam instead of a "follower of Islam" or "a Muslim".

Likewise, vandalism is a crime in Pakistan and if this person had committed that in Pakistan, he would've been prosecuted. Do not call him Paksitani unless you prefix "offender" before his identity. Save yourself from falling into your enemy's traps.

Deflecting anger away from Hindus to Sikhs
"This man was upset about Kashmir. So, he vandalised a Gurudwara in UK"

Gaurav and Arnab hide the facts and portray that Muslims are angry at Sikhs instead of Hindus for crimes in Kashmir. Facts are;

• India is run by a Hindu RSS Government
• under a Hindu RSS Prime Minister Narendra Modi,
• together with a gang of Hindu RSS politicians.

When above is true;

• Why would anyone attack Sikhs place of worship? Likewise, why would anyone vandalise a Masjid blaming Muslims of India for terrorism in Kashmir?
• Sikhs are anti-India and against the abuse in Kashmir themselves.
• No one in Pakistan or outside Pakistan has ever blamed Sikhs for unrest in Kashmir, so why are they being attacked alone (in Afghanistan earlier) and now in the UK.

Pakistan's opportunity to expose real culprits
Pakistanis do not blame Sikhs for the situation in Kashmir. No Pakistani will attempt aggression against Sikhs either. Why is this person then like that? Who fed him? Who paid him? Who told him to do what he did. This needs to be investigated. If he has been encouraged to do that, those people should be exposed. This is Pakistan's opportunity to expose enemies of Sikhs and reveal to them who in reality is harming them and their places of worship!


@graphican
26th May 2020

@Horus @Agnostic @waz @Dubious @HRKMuSliM @araz @airomerix @Arsalan @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @BHarwana @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Foxtrot Alpha @ghazi52 @Hodor @Irfan Baloch @Imran Khan @Jango @Knuckles @krash @LeGenD @Moonlight @Side-Winder @Socra @Aamir Hussain @Adam_Khan @Ahmet Pasha @Akh1112 @aliyusuf @ARMalik @Angry Easterling @assasiner @Blacklight @crankthatskunk @Cookie Monster @Counter-Errorist @Dil Pakistan @Falcon26 @Flight of falcon @FuturePAF @GriffinsRule @Gryphon @GumNaam @Haris Ali2140 @Hakikat ve Hikmet @HawkEye27 @I S I @Khanivore @khansaheeb @khanasifm @Liquidmetal @loanranger @Maxpane @Mirage Battle Commander @Microsoft @mingle @Mrc @mshan44 @Muhammad Omar @NA71 @Nasr @notorious_eagle @Pakhtoon yum @Pakistani Fighter @PAKISTANFOREVER @PakShaheen79 @Path-Finder @PDFChamp @PWFI @Rafi @Reichsmarschall @Riz @Safriz @Shane @Signalian @Starlord @Stealth @StormBreaker @The Accountant @TheTallGuy @Tank131 @Thorough Pro @TOPGUN @Tps43 @TsAr @Trango Towers @undercover JIX @Verve @ziaulislam @Zulfiqar
@ps3linux

This is very important because it seems to be gaining pace as well.

Recent propaganda about Afghan Talibans announcing Ghazwah e Hind is in the same line.

We need clear strategy, guidelines and mass awareness campaign - public needs to know.

 

[Syed1.]

Second thread on barking dog Gaurav Arya in as many days... Why do we give these people the attention they don't deserve? Honestly if I don't come to PDF I wouldn't even be aware of what some waste of skin Indian is saying about Pakistan.

 

[jericho]

Second thread on barking dog Gaurav Arya in as many days... Why do we give these people the attention they don't deserve? Honestly if I don't come to PDF I wouldn't even be aware of what some waste of skin Indian is saying about Pakistan.

Exactly this.