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Things are not Normal in Jammu and Kashmir says Rahul Gandhi

Things will change in coming years, kashmir will see drastic differences...the current move will ensure no tolerance to cross border terrorism and stone pelting..

So now Rahul is being accused of cross border terrorism ? If you can't trust your own main opposition leader to tour the Kashmir area, and even play politics with that, which all politicians do by default, then simply speaking what is the worth of your democracy ?
Modi is making the same move as the British Raj did by dis-arming the local muslim police, abolished civil service, house arrested all the politicians, and cut off all forms of communication.
How all these moves can possibly be helpful for the region when he is clearly drawing a Hindu and Muslim line of division ?
 
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It's the people of Kashmir who are owning and leading this freedom struggle. If they wanted to be Indian then there would be nothing Pakistan could do. They clearly want to be free. Even your stooges of 70+ years are voicing their regret at facilitating the Indian occupation of their country. They realise belatedly that you only care for their territory and not the people. You have stripped them of their autonomy and their democratic rights, what little they had of either.
You have pushed them into a corner and the only option they have left is to fight, and fight they will regardless of what Pakistan wants.
Perhaps you would like to answer your own question, what about the Kashmiri people?
Come on my side of Kashmir and see yourself.
We want peace in Kashmir but as long as chutiya army is there, nothing can be done. Pakistan has one goal which is peace in the region but alas, India doesn't want that with their constant acts of terrorism by sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan especially in Balochistan. Also, as far as the Kashmiri people are concerned, most of them want to be with Pakistan so if you really respect their wishes, then leave kashmir.

Its the same people of Kashmir who are dealing with those which you call "freedom struggle". J&K bureaucracy, J&K Police and most of army battalions are recruited from Kashmir themselves. There is a clear divide on what the people themselves at the valley. If all the 12-13m people in the whole of J&K want independence India cannot do anything especially with cross border support coming from neighboring country. But the state itself is divided with people of different opinion.

Let's take the example of Indian independence movement. Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Parsis, Christians all fought for the independence from British unitedly. Even LTTE for example. Prabharakan was a Christian and most of his commanders were Hindus and their goal was Tamil land irrespective of religion.

Does these so called "freedom fighters" achieved religious acceptability and tolerance? Do they have pan Kashmiriyat support? By sending hardcore intolerant Afghan Taliban and Pakistani jihadi fighters in 1990's and expelling the Hindus and bringing an religious fascism in Kashmir it harmed its own chances to build an narrative. Entirely not our fault. Even Shias were not left out. When Sunni extremism increased political leaders tried to appease them and banned Shia rallies in Kashmir to this day. Only state in India where Shia rallies are banned. And they form around 20% of Kashmiri Muslim population.

Then the political leadership in Kashmir targetted Kashmiri Muslims tribals like Gurjars, Bakarwallas etc by denying them reservation in their own state and yet declining central govt advice to give them reservation. They are the very end of the social spectrum and they recognised GoI's effort to give them reservation at central jons while being denied the same at the state. And they are pretty much targetted to this day as they live in mountains and report terrorists movements to the Army. There is a reason why kargil and North Kashmir has less to negligible army presence.

I will even show the J&K map.

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22 districts in J&K. The problem lies only in Poonch, Anantnag, Kulgam, Pulwama, Shopian and Srinagar. All surrounding Srinagar. The rest of the state is peaceful and are happy with India.

Right now people feel cheated. I do agree with that. Everyone thinks 370 was meant to protect them and now it has been taken off. It will take sometime to win their trust on this issue as benefits of 370 will take some years to show.

My final point of this long essay is this: Until unless you people unite all factions of Kashmiris to believe in one common goal no amount of rhetoric or terrorism can change anything on the ground. Kashmir at the end of the day is ruled and governed by Kashmiris.

Bullshit Indian conspiracy theories, I've had enough of it. He was elected fair and square, if you don't trust us then at least believe international observers. And criminals aren't allowed on TV anywhere in the world, it's common sense.

I can give you 100's of political leaders giving interviews from jail. Maryam Nawaz was not jailed or Zardari wasnt jailed when their rally's and interviews were blocked by the deep state. He was elected fair and square cos he had no opposition to stand against him. All were in jail.

My Prime Minister is not a terriost!!! Modi to sala Qatil ha BC

Well mine isnt too. He hasnt been convicted on any crime till this day. You guys even called Bush as terrorist. The world doesnt heed to such words. It works on judgements and how investigations were done.

We are proud with the fact that the corrupt here are brought to justice, TV interviews should be banned and the corrupt should be jailed for life. The opposition came to the media and gave out false statements about the economy and that the country will default, it literally caused a run on the rupee. Now if that isn't enough to censor them then there shouldn't be any point keeping them in jails.

Didnt your finance minister and SBP head agree devaluation was done on PKR on IMF advice? So either opposition leaders caused downfall or your govt lies. Your choice.

Give ladakh to China if you truly care for the wealth of the poor poor ladakhians.

Yah, didn't think so. You xfukwits in Delhi use Kashmiris, jammus and ladakhians as pawns. If you wanted peace for Kashmiris you would give it to Pakistan (hint: azad Kashmir is just fine and dandy).

Ladakhis are not robots where we can transfer ownership of the robots to another country. First China doesnt even claim Ladakh. They just protested the inclusion of Aksai Chin under Ladakh which were converted to UT. We are not shameless to give portions of our country to win favour with another country. Remember Shaksham valley?

Infact people from Arunachal and Ladakh absolutely hate China for the way they treated Buddhist culture in Tibet and show middle finger to them whenever possible. Of course it doesnt matter to you cos you are Muslim and you dont care what happens to people of other religions and cultures.
 
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I can give you 100's of political leaders giving interviews from jail. Maryam Nawaz was not jailed or Zardari wasnt jailed when their rally's and interviews were blocked by the deep state. He was elected fair and square cos he had no opposition to stand against him....
Didnt your finance minister and SBP head agree devaluation was done on PKR on IMF advice? So either opposition leaders caused downfall or your ...
Sorry but I must say you are extremely ignorant. I never argued whether politicians have given interviews or not, I said it wasn't right for criminals to give interviews on TV where millions of people can watch them and their twisted mindset. Who Whoever is doing it, the government or the deep state (stupid assumption but ok) is doing a very good job and should be appreciated. 2: No government wants to devalue its currency for the sake of destroying the economy, they made it flexible, previous the governments controlled it artificially. Now when the currency is already falling, and it has the potential to fall further depending on different factors and influences(media being a big one).
The court disqualified Nawaz Sharif because he was corrupt and there were proofs, anyone can go read the documents. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself before coming up with this deep state bs, please.
 
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Sorry but I must say you are extremely ignorant. I never argued whether politicians have given interviews or not, I said it wasn't right for criminals to give interviews on TV where millions of people can watch them and their twisted mindset. Who Whoever is doing it, the government or the deep state (stupid assumption but ok) is doing a very good job and should be appreciated. 2: No government wants to devalue its currency for the sake of destroying the economy, they made it flexible, previous the governments controlled it artificially. Now when the currency is already falling, and it has the potential to fall further depending on different factors and influences(media being a big one).
The court disqualified Nawaz Sharif because he was corrupt and there were proofs, anyone can go read the documents. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself before coming up with this deep state bs, please.

I am not saying devaluation is wrong. I even feel 160 is not its exact price and there is lot more chances of going to its original rate of 180-200. You or me dont have the right to even convicted criminals from stop giving interviews. Its for people to decide whether its BS or truth. Not you, me or the deep state. Its my point of view.
 
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J&K bureaucracy, J&K Police and most of army battalions are recruited from Kashmir themselves.
Same J&K Police which has been made unarmed,i guess must have been feeling awesome.
Bureaucracy,they have known their place in system while living under curfew.
I can give you 100's of political leaders giving interviews from jail. Maryam Nawaz was not jailed or Zardari wasnt jailed when their rally's and interviews were blocked by the deep state. He was elected fair and square cos he had no opposition to stand against him. All were in jail.
Their cases are under trial,interview was stopped on that basis,that even happens in West.
By sending hardcore intolerant Afghan Taliban and Pakistani jihadi fighters in 1990's and expelling the Hindus and bringing an religious fascism in Kashmir it harmed its own chances to build an narrative. Entirely not our fault.
I guess you remember mass rigging of 1987 elections?
With current step Bharat has once again shot in foot in my opinion.
 
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I am not saying devaluation is wrong. I even feel 160 is not its exact price and there is lot more chances of going to its original rate of 180-200. You or me dont have the right to even convicted criminals from stop giving interviews. Its for people to decide whether its BS or truth. Not you, me or the deep state. Its my point of view.
PTI are THE PEOPLE. They accused the mafia of corruption and won the case. So you're essentially saying that it's for the people to decide, with that logic it means that they can do any sort of crime but as long as they're fooling people they can get away with it, what the hell?

And how many times do I have to repeat myself, they caused A RUN ON THE RUPEE, the rupee was already falling and it made it worse. They come on TV and start saying that the country is never going to recover from this and other bs. It causes harm to the economy. No where in the world do convicted criminals get on TV like this. And these criminals looted money worth half of Pakistan's GDP or more I reckon.
 
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The point is, the people should have the right to decide their own fate. If you're so confident that everything is ok, then lift the curfew and lets start a referendum. We've said this from the beginning, but you know that the people favor Pakistan and thus you prefer occupying because it's easier.
 
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Same J&K Police which has been made unarmed,i guess must have been feeling awesome.
Bureaucracy,they have known their place in system while living under curfew.

Their cases are under trial,interview was stopped on that basis,that even happens in West.

I guess you remember mass rigging of 1987 elections?
With current step Bharat has once again shot in foot in my opinion.

Lol. J&K police havent been disarmed. I dont even know the rumour factory is working in Pakistan. The level of propaganda must be an understatement. Even US would be tough matched at this level of propaganda which the Pakistanis are giving an tough fight to the Chinese and North Koreans.

They are involved in operations as of now.

The same Abdullah's were responsible for 1988 election fiasco. But even if that was a fair election Pakistan would have sent jihadis that time considering most of the terrorists killed were Pakistanis and Afghans those days.
 
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Lol. J&K police havent been disarmed. I dont even know the rumour factory is working in Pakistan. The level of propaganda must be an understatement. Even US would be tough matched at this level of propaganda which the Pakistanis are giving an tough fight to the Chinese and North Koreans.

They are involved in operations as of now.

The same Abdullah's were responsible for 1988 election fiasco. But even if that was a fair election Pakistan would have sent jihadis that time considering most of the terrorists killed were Pakistanis and Afghans those days.
It's all Pakistan behind uprising while Bharati Govt has done nothing wrong,still why whole valley under curfew for almost 33 days?
 
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