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Everyone has heard about them, but few have a real picture about who they are. What does a mask of Spetsnaz soldier hide? Sweat, blood, pain, constant overcoming of yourself... What is behind spectacular footage of lightning operation?

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there should be joint training between indian special forces and SPETSNAZ
 
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Spetsnaz are crazy. Much respect, I heard there training is considered inhuman by US standards. :woot:
 
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Spetsnaz are crazy. Much respect, I heard there training is considered inhuman by US standards. :woot:

Well, if you combine the brute must-have will to survive Russian climatic conditions, the Russian disregard for life and a tendency to shoot first and ask questions later; you get SPETSNAZ.

I mean this is a good thing considering that they handed the Chechen militants their rears back; No amount of political correctness that typical of trademark democracies could have taught the jehadis a lesson that Kremlin's Bears taught them.

Sometimes, disregard for international "rights" laws especially when it comes to killing terrorists and pirates, is a good thing. Russians know it damn well. :azn:
 
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Well, if you combine the brute must-have will to survive Russian climatic conditions, the Russian disregard for life and a tendency to shoot first and ask questions later; you get SPETSNAZ.

I mean this is a good thing considering that they handed the Chechen militants their rears back; No amount of political correctness that typical of trademark democracies could have taught the jehadis a lesson that Kremlin's Bears taught them.

Sometimes, disregard for international "rights" laws especially when it comes to killing terrorists and pirates, is a good thing. Russians know it damn well. :azn:

I was watching the shows Greatest Warriors or something along those lines and it was doing a Spetsnaz versus Green Berets (or US Army Rangers I forget) anyway the ex Spetsnaz on the show was like how could you beat us when you consider our training out of hand? LOL, BTW in the show the Spetsnaz won.

Yeah but the Chechens won the first war they were no pushovers. You can find the video on YouTube how the Chechen leader disrespected Russian President during ceasefire. It was pretty funny.
 
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I was watching the shows Greatest Warriors or something along those lines and it was doing a Spetsnaz versus Green Berets (or US Army Rangers I forget) anyway the ex Spetsnaz on the show was like how could you beat us when you consider our training out of hand? LOL, BTW in the show the Spetsnaz won.

Yeah but the Chechens won the first war they were no pushovers. You can find the video on YouTube how the Chechen leader disrespected Russian President during ceasefire. It was pretty funny.

The reason why first Chechen war was a disaster for Russian military was because they had never faced terrorism like this; remember the first "testing sample" of jehadi militancy in modern world was USSR. Soviets and Russians were best prepared to fight a conventional lumbering force on the plains of central and western Europe; something they considered as their traditional potential threat.

They didn't have the wildest idea that they'd be fighting a bunch of fanatical, suicidal bomb-and-butcher's-knife carrying madmen who'd hide in the jagged mountains of Afghanistan or the hostile mountainous terrain of Caucasus.

The Russians learnt it the hard way and they put all that learning into use the second time; their method of carpet bombing Gozny was brutal; but effective nonetheless. It basically told the terrorists that "hey, if you won't surrender no problem. We are ready to clean this place and repopulate it if necessary with our own kind."

That kind of made the "Emirs" of chechnya that even an injured bear (Russia during 90s) was still lethal enough.
 
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* Extract from Aukai Collins book "My Jihad".

Spetsnaz didn't have it easy in the Afghan war.
 
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Every Special Services Group has its own traning they are good against few type of threat in which they are trained in .

They are actually mean killing machine nothing much.

To compare them i think would be not appropriate as they are the best soldiers of that particular country trained according to their country terrain and environment.
 
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Spetsnaz are crazy. Much respect, I heard there training is considered inhuman by US standards. :woot:
There is a great difference between physical hardships produced by the environment versus those produced by out of sheer sadism.

If you ruck 20 kilos of gear for 10 km, it is nowhere as physically demanding as 100 kilos for the same distance. Now add in wearing gas masks, or part of that distance through mud, or snow, or below freezing temperature, or towing that weight behind you in the sea, and so on...

What does physical beatings have to do with conditioning the body to withstand all that environmental stress? Nothing. The desire to succeed to be a member of the elite warriors class is enough to motivate the individual to withstand such environmental stress. We discovered the uselessness of sadism in training Special Operations operators of all services a long time ago. We discovered that without sadism, the SpecOps operators of today is no less intelligent, efficient, and wily as the ones of yesterday. If anything, unit cohesion and morale is even greater because each man know his brothers endured the same as he without resorting to such sadistic means so often admired in the SPETSNAZ.
 
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much respect for SPETSNAZ, no match for Navy Seals or Marines tho
 
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Well, if you combine the brute must-have will to survive Russian climatic conditions, the Russian disregard for life and a tendency to shoot first and ask questions later; you get SPETSNAZ.

I mean this is a good thing considering that they handed the Chechen militants their rears back; No amount of political correctness that typical of trademark democracies could have taught the jehadis a lesson that Kremlin's Bears taught them.

Sometimes, disregard for international "rights" laws especially when it comes to killing terrorists and pirates, is a good thing. Russians know it damn well. :azn:

Contrary to what some may say, the Chechens, just like the Taliban, give it as good as they get it. I say this knowing about the Taliban operations against our own troops in Pakistan (and the involvement of Chechens in some of these) and elsewhere. The Chechens are no pushovers. This has been proven in both of the Russian wars in Chechnya. In built up combat, the Chechens held out agains the best the Russians could throw at them in both wars. They conducted tactical withdrawals against superior firepower from air and armour but still remain a force to reckon with in Chechnya.

much respect for SPETSNAZ, no match for Navy Seals or Marines tho

I am sure they are just as good to the man as the SEALs. Marines are nothing but naval infantry.
 
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* Extract from Aukai Collins book "My Jihad".

Spetsnaz didn't have it easy in the Afghan war.


The spetsnaz as well as paratroopers VDV have been documented in many of their battles/operations. In one famous missions some 600 (mostly paratroopers) engaged 2,500 Afghan government presidential bodyguards as well as soldiers. It was a once sided battle. In another case 90 paratroopers engaged about 2,500-3000 enemy soldiers, most of the paratroopers were killed; however, they killed hundreds of enemy forces and caused the survivors to retreat. Interestingly enough many of the paratroopers killed were killed because they ran out of ammunition and not because they were outmatched in skill although they were outmatched in numbers.


So in well documented cases the Spetsnaz have a proven record, yet every time they face Pakistani troops the Pakistanis seem to have divine powers. Forget about a mere 600 paratroopers taking out 2,500 well trained presidential bodyguards as well as soldiers. The Pakistani ‘special forces’ supported by a bunch ill trained and ill equipped rag tag fighters managed to kill thousand of Russian special forces. Seems like a Rambo script.


I have someone in my family that was in the Spetsnaz, he even served in Afghanistan, I also have someone in the family that was KGB intelligence. Both individuals have information that the general public does not have, and it’s a little bit funny how a lot of this feel good Rambo propoganda floating around about the spetsnaz in Afghanistan can not be confirmed or is flat out not true according to credible people that were their.
 
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