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They are Terrorists and not Taliban

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Abdullah Mahsud went to Afghanistan for Jihad against Northern Alliance and American invasion in Afghanistan. But was arrested by Northern Alliance forces. Which handed him over to the USA. USA shifted him to Guantanamo Bay. Where he spend 25 months in prison. Then unknown happened and he was released by United States and allowed to fly safely to his hometown in Waziristan.

The first thing he did after reaching his hometown is that he established the Taliban Movement of Pakistan. And his first operation was the kidnapping of two Chinese Engineers, who were working on the project of Gomal Zam Dam. One of which had been killed by the terrorists, while a rescue operation conducted by Pakistan Army. The other one rescued alive.

The kidnapping of two of the Chinese Engineers made him popular in his hometown and elsewhere in the world. China demanded for his arrest and others start shouting on emerging threats of Talibanisation in Pakistan. The United States, the UK, the India and many more expressed their concerns over Talibanisation in Pakistan and massive pressure has been built over Pakistan to conduct military operation against these so called fundamentalists and radical Islamists.

Pakistan, which was well aware of the social and political culture of the tribal areas, initially resisted against these illogical international demands. But later forced to enter troops in tribal areas after it received direct threats from United States that USA will invade Pakistan’s Northern Areas to eliminate Taliban and their aides, if Pakistan did not conduct a military operation in Waziristan and elsewhere in Pakistan’s northern areas.

The military operation received a massive resistance both from tribesmen and from rest of the nation. The People of Pakistan rightfully had an opinion that this was not our war and we should not engage ourselves. While the tribes wanted the government of Pakistan to honour the accords between them and The Government of Pakistan.

And so the War against Terror had somehow expanded beyond the borders of Afghanistan. Pakistani security forces, with the help of local intelligence agencies had located Abdullah Mahsud in Zhob district of Balochistan and raided his home. But Abdullah Mahsud killed himself with a hand grenade.

After the death of Abdullah Mahsud, Baitullah Mahsud became the first active head of Taliban Movement named Tahrik e Taliban Pakistan. The movement consist of not less than 5,000 militants, which were divided in to different units. Each of which were assigned different tasks. One of the units was responsible to assassinate Pro-Pakistan figures in NWFP.

The other unit, led by Qari Hussain, was responsible to carry out Suicide attacks and other terrorist activities across Pakistan. The bombing of FIA building in Lahore, suicide attack on Marriott hotel in Islamabad, Manawa Training Camp siege and many other incidents are believed as conducted by Taliban movement led by Baitullah Mahsud.

Baitullah Mahsud aligned with all factions, affected directly or indirectly by the military operations in Northern Pakistan. Where government wanted to eliminate the presence of Al-Qaeeda militants and militants from other countries such as tajiks, the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM) from China and many others. Baitullah Mahsud exploited the social conditions of Mahsud and other tribes by hiring the militants on payroll. All of his 5,000 cadres were paid on monthly basis. Their pays, some believe, were more than the salaries paid by the Government to Frontier Constabulary (FC). Sources claims that Baitullah’s annual expenditures on salaries were around PKR. 600 millions. Each of his militant was paid between Rs. 10,000 to Rs. 20,000 per month. Moreover, the additional benefits including compensations in case of death of any terrorist were timely delivered to his family at doorstep. In addition to this, the annual expenditures of Tahrik e Taliban’s military operations were around 2 billion rupees. Which was used to acquire the latest weaponry systems to be used against Pakistan Army.

The question arises is that from where the Taliban are getting financial resource? Who is providing them the world’s most sophisticated military equipment? Did they ever try their military strength against US and other foreign forces in Afghanistan? What was the primary cause, as described, for the creation of Pakistan based Taliban movement?

The Pakistan based so called Taliban had never noticed while engaging with US forces in Afghanistan, while all of their activities mainly fall under the category of Terrorism. The so called Tahrik e Taliban conducted an uncountable number of terrorist attacks inside Pakistan. The killing of Surgeon General of Pakistan Army, the attacks on FIA building in Lahore, a suicide attack on Marriott hotel Islamabad and an attack on GHQ Rawalpindi, number of attacks on busses carrying personals of armed forces and intelligence agencies and an attack on a mosque in Rawalpindi, where number of in service and retired military officers and their family members were killed, all of them are believed to be conducted by this terrorist outfit, named Tahrik e Taliban Pakistan.

While on number of occasions, it has been officially admitted that these terrorists, who proclaimed themselves as Jihadis and Taliban are not only receiving finances but also weapons from other countries, mainly from USA and India. In may 2009, the DG of ISPR, Major Gen. Athar Abbas disclosed in a press conference that the connections had been found between Baitullah led Taliban movement and Indian and US personals in Afghanistan. Numbers of pictures had been released by military, of weapons, which were Indian and US made. Although, both India and USA never confessed that they ever provided help and support to this terrorist organisation. But it is a proven fact that the US and Indian made weapons are recovered from these terrorists, which are in use of these terrorists against Pakistani forces.

There are also evidences that Indian military officers are providing training to these terrorists inside Afghanistan. Many of the dead bodies of these terrorists are also identified as of non-muslims, surprisingly. Not only in northern Pakistan, India is actively supporting terrorist activities in rest of the country, especially Balochistan. Where it has links with Brahamdagh Bugti, who is running a separatist movement from Afghanistan. Christine Fair of RAND Corporation acknowledged this by saying, “Indian officials have told me privately that they are pumping money into Baluchistan”. The Foreign Policy Magazine had reported, “The Indians are up to their necks in supporting the Taliban against the Pakistani government in Afghanistan and Pakistan”.

Lots of other evidences could be pumped in to this article in support that this terrorist outfit in Waziristan, proclaimed as Tahrik e Taliban Pakistan, neither has anything to do with Talibani Jihad in Afghanistan nor it is interested to establish a self-proclaimed Islamic government in North or elsewhere in Pakistan. These terrorists are working on the foreign agenda, which aims to destabilise Pakistan and create anarchy across the country. They receive funds from enemies of the ideological and geographical constituency of Pakistan, they exploit the poor local population of northern areas of Pakistan, pay them salaries upto Rs. 20,000 and use them against security forces. They run so called religious schools and recruit potential suicide bombers, brainwash them with bogus Jihadi literature and use them against their own brothers in the rest of the country, they kidnap people for ransom, engage in bank robberies across Pakistan, they commit target killings and executions of pro Pakistan elements in FATA, Waziristan and in other areas of Pakistan.

None of their activities are in favour of Pakistan. Instead, uncountable number of common people and personals of armed forces had been killed so far by this terrorist organisation. More than 125 civilians killed in just one blast in Qissa Khawani Bazar. More than 50 killed in an attack on FIA building in Lahore, 4 navy personals killed in two suicide bomb blasts in Lahore, 40 tribesmen got killed in a suicide attack on Jirga in Dera Adam Khail, 100s of tribesmen killed in another suicide attack in Lakki Marwat, when they were watching a Volleyball match in the ground.

What these terrorists have to do with Islam and Islamic state, while they are funded and harboured by the enemy countries. Infect, they are conducting terrorist activities throughout Pakistan and that is also on the name of Islam. They lie with their recruits and use wrong interpretations of religious teachings to brainwash them and to use them in terrorist activities in the country. We must show the real face of these terrorists to the nation, especially in Waziristan, FATA and Swat areas, from where they get most of their recruits. What we need to do is that we must educate common people about these terrorist organisations, show them their real face. Parallel to this, we have a need to create business environment and job opportunities in northern areas of Pakistan, where the poverty ratio is highest in the country. So that the poors of tribal areas could be guarded against these terrorists outfits. Who use the name of Islam and Taliban for their own objectives.

The word “Taliban” is as respectable as the world “Islam” is. Taliban is a group of people, which seeks knowledge and education. A Talib could be a student of any field of life including arts & culture, science & technology, history or religion of his own or of others. But he or she could not be militant, a fighter. Unless, he fights with his knowledge and not with the sword and that is also against the evil and not against his or her own poor and innocent people.

They are Terrorists and not Taliban
 
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Once these Taliban was hero for whole world. They they called them "Mujah-e-din. Now they are call them terrorists.
 
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Nobody called them mujahideen except pakistan. plz dont mix the previous mujahideen with the taliban, they are 2 different groups.
Are they?
Then where are these Mujah-e-din?
Where they gone after crashing the U.S.S.R?
What is history of Taliban?

I am not mixing here nor writing that is uncorrect.
Try to upgrade your own history man.
 
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Nobody called them mujahideen except pakistan. plz dont mix the previous mujahideen with the taliban, they are 2 different groups.

2 different groups, are you out of your mind. Mullah Omar was a mujahideen, Badabar was one and so were many ohters. They were known as the peshawar 7 and fought against soviets. Omar was a part if Hizbe Inqalab Islamia or something like that.

You should read your history.
 
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Are they?
Then where are these Mujah-e-din?
Where they gone after crashing the U.S.S.R?
What is history of Taliban?

I am not mixing here nor writing that is uncorrect.
Try to upgrade your own history man.

The mujahideen were 7 goups based in paksitan and some other based in iran. the 7 leaders(so called) were : 1-Burhanudin Rabani 2-Gulbudin Hekmatyar 3-Mulavi Y. Khalis 4-Mulavi M.N.Mohamadi 5-Sebghatullah Mujadadi 6-S.A.Gilani 7-Ab. Rab.R.Sayaf. These guys were the leaders. After the gov of Najibullah was gone they took control of afghanistan and after awhile they started fighting each other. After few years the taliban came from Pakistani Madrasahs and took over big parts of the country. The so called NA was big part of mujahideen who fought the russians(with the exception of one group)
 
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2 different groups, are you out of your mind. Mullah Omar was a mujahideen, Badabar was one and so were many ohters. They were known as the peshawar 7 and fought against soviets. Omar was a part if Hizbe Inqalab Islamia or something like that.

You should read your history.

Some of their leaders might have fought against the russians or might not. But their structure in general was not involved in fight against the soviets.
 
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The mujahideen were 7 goups based in paksitan and some other based in iran. the 7 leaders(so called) were : 1-Burhanudin Rabani 2-Gulbudin Hekmatyar 3-Mulavi Y. Khalis 4-Mulavi M.N.Mohamadi 5-Sebghatullah Mujadadi 6-S.A.Gilani 7-Ab. Rab.R.Sayaf. These guys were the leaders. After the gov of Najibullah was gone they took control of afghanistan and after awhile they started fighting each other. After few years the taliban came from Pakistani Madrasahs and took over big parts of the country. The so called NA was big part of mujahideen who fought the russians(with the exception of one group)

Well, so it was Pakistani Maja-e-din who fought against former U.S.S.R?

LOL,

Quite often I think that there is no different between Indian & Afghani.

I am very much remember 1980`s when I was child and was in Pakistan. Because we had tooooooo much looting, dacaties, rape cases, child kidnapings all that comes from those millions of Afghan refugee those came to different part of Pakistan from Afghanistan that time.
 
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Some of their leaders might have fought against the russians or might not. But their structure in general was not involved in fight against the soviets.

Yes, he is totally out of his mind.
He got so poor history about Pakistan.
Someone have to correct his poor knowledge about Pakistan.
 
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The Taliban are terrorists... TTP regardless of the foreign powers behind them are also terrorists. We will kill them all!
 
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The Taliban are terrorists... TTP regardless of the foreign powers behind them are also terrorists. We will kill them all!

You are right. These guys are terrorizing people of Pakistan and AFghanistan. Anyone who has heart and mercy must not glorify these killers by any means.
 
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Majority of Mujahideen factions joined the Taliban, others were killed by Hekmatyar and the inetrim government was Pakistani Pathans (some), but not the taliban. They however did have links with pakistan and were supported as Mujahideen broke out in civil war and the people suffered.

I blame all of Afghanistan's problem on PDPA today, had they not come to power in a coup and overthrown King Zahir Shah, all would have been well.

But there is hope, if his nephew returns to power. Afghanistan can prosper and Inshallah it will.
 
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Well, so it was Pakistani Maja-e-din who fought against former U.S.S.R?

LOL,

Quite often I think that there is no different between Indian & Afghani.


I dont know what you are talking about? What does that mean? you asked me about the taliban and so called mujahideen(leaders) and i gave yout the brief information about them. I dont know what you mean by the above.


I am very much remember 1980`s when I was child and was in Pakistan. Because we had tooooooo much looting, dacaties, rape cases, child kidnapings all that comes from those millions of Afghan refugee those came to different part of Pakistan from Afghanistan that time.


YOu are wrong my friend. Pakistan has got alot of problems itself and you cant put your ills of your society on Afghans. As if there werent any afghan in pakistan, there wouldnt have been any rape and crimes? is that what you say? There might have been some criminals among the refugees, but that is natural for every society. Good and bad people can be found everywhere.
 
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Majority of Mujahideen factions joined the Taliban, others were killed by Hekmatyar and the inetrim government was Pakistani Pathans (some), but not the taliban. They however did have links with pakistan and were supported as Mujahideen broke out in civil war and the people suffered.

I blame all of Afghanistan's problem on PDPA today, had they not come to power in a coup and overthrown King Zahir Shah, all would have been well.

But there is hope, if his nephew returns to power. Afghanistan can prosper and Inshallah it will.

After the taliban gained strenght, some of the mujahideen fighters joined them, but not majority. Most of the mujahideen factions and leaders were fighting against the Taliban.

Nephew of Zahir Shah? If you mean Mustafa Zahir, then he is his grand son. But i highly doubt if he can solve Afghansitan's problems, he almost have zero support base among people. But since he is an educated perosn, he can held a good post to serve the country.
 
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Mr.Ahmad,

As I said in my previous message to you that I wa in Pakistan in 1980`s. I remember that time very well. That was former president of Pakistan Gen. Zi-Ul-Haq period.

We got millions of Afghan refugee in pakistan that time.
After athat, we got so many problems in Pakistan just because of having millions of Afghan refujee.

I myself saw big trucks that comes from Afghanistan and saw too many Afghan people.

I also remember that time Pakistan`s top news paprer like

Daily JAND & Nawa-i-Waqt got so so many stories about Afghan refugies Looting, Killing, Rape, Kidnaping Childrens etc . . . . All that comes from Afghan Refujee.

Pakistan was a poor country that time (yes, still poor pr today as well) But we were forced to accept so many refugees.

Who gave us following Cultures:

Klashankoof & Heroin, , , , ,?

Of Course it was Afghan who gave us this culture.

As being a poor country Pakistan helped our Afghan brothers and sisters. But what we got in reply is very sad Mr.Ahmad.

Now DO NOT teach me about TALIBAN history. Try to make fool someone else, but not Pakistanis!!!
 
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