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The new coronavirus disease turned into a global pandemic because this novel virus could spread weeks without detection. There are several data points that indicate that 20-50% of all coronavirus infections are asymptomatic. Almost all countries are merely reacting to this virus rather than proactively working on preventing its spread. India is one of these countries even though it moved faster than most countries to impose a national lockdown to stop COVID-19 speed train on its tracks."

I published an article on March 20 and calculated that 2 million people in America had coronavirus as of March 20. The model I developed estimated that the death toll in American will surpass 800 by March 26, 6400 by April 4th, and 20 thousand by April 15th. On the morning of March 26, the number of coronavirus deaths in America was 1042. The death toll in America also jumped to 7000+ on the morning of April 4th. In other words, the model I have developed produced actually very conservative estimates (i.e. the actual number of deaths and infections are higher than what we predicted).

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In this article I am going to model the number of infections in India and make conservative predictions about the minimum number of deaths that we should expect to see in the next couple of weeks.

In this article I am going to model the number of infections in India and make conservative predictions about the minimum number of deaths that we should expect to see in the next couple of weeks.

In this article I estimated the infection fatality rate of COVID-19 at 1.2% for the United States. However, India has a relatively younger population than the U.S. and I believe its overall infection fatality rate will be lower. To be conservative and keep the math simple, I will assume that India's IFR is 1%.

The main implication of a 1% infection fatality rate is as follows: if 100 people are infected with the new coronavirus today, only 1 of them will lose their struggle with this virus and the remaining 99 people will survive this ordeal.

Approximately 5-6 days after a person is infected with the virus, she begins to show symptoms (fever, cough, fatigue, etc.). There are multiple data points in different countries that indicate that 20-50% of the infected people do not show any symptoms. Therefore, it is thought that these people have an important role in the spread of this virus so rapidly. After the patients show symptoms for 5-6 days, some of them become more severe and have to be hospitalized. The hospital stay is around 14 days on average and then the case is resolved (either recovery or death).

In total, it takes around 24 days for the patient to lose her life after getting infected with the virus. Some researchers use Gamma distributions to model this in their papers, but again we are using a simplified model so that untrained readers could understand our model (using a Gamma distribution doesn't lead to better conclusions).

This is an important figure.

In India today at least 86 people lost their lives because of the coronavirus (I am hoping that Indian authorities didn't undercount the COVID-19 deaths). These people were not infected with this virus today, nor were they infected with it yesterday. These people were infected with this coronavirus around 24 days ago.

In other words, 86 people were infected this virus on March 11th or earlier and lost their lives after fighting with this virus for 24 days on average. We also know that only one out of every 100 people who get the coronavirus lost their lives.

This means that on March 11th, in India there were 100 coronavirus infections for each deaths TODAY. So, there were a total of 8600 people infected with the new coronavirus in India on March 11th. If you understand how we calculated this 8600 figure, it's relatively easy to understand the rest of our model. I am aware that Indian authorities confirmed only 60 COVID-19 cases on March 11th, which explains why the number of infections have been growing exponentially since then.


In the USA, Italy and other countries the number of infections and deaths doubled every 3 days before they started implementing social distancing measures. The figures in India point to a slightly slower growth rate of 4 days. We know that 1% of those who are infected dies after about 24 days. Therefore, we can calculate the rate of increase in the number of infections by looking at the rate of increase in the number of those who lost their lives.

For example, in India the death toll was 32 on March 31st. This number doubled in 4 days and reached 86 (the rate of increase is a little more than 100%).

On March 27th the death toll in India was 20. This number quadrupled in 8 days and reached 86 (more or less).

Now we can start to predict the actual number of infections and project the death toll for the next couple of weeks.

We already calculated that there were around 8600 infections in India on March 11th. Since the number of infections is doubling every 4 days, we know that it will double to 17200 on March 15th, 34400 on March 19th, and 68800 on March 23rd.

Using a conservative growth rate between March 23rd and March 24th, we can safely estimate that there were at least 75000 coronavirus infections in India on March 24th.

On March 24th Modi ordered a 21-day lockdown to slow down the spread of COVID-19. So, we will stay conservative and assume that the number of infections stayed the same since March 24th. On March 24th Modi ordered a 21-day lockdown to slow down the spread of COVID-19. So, we will stay conservative and assume that the number of infections stayed the same since March 24th.

The immediate implication of this figure is that on April 17th, 24 days after March 24th, the death toll in India will reach 750 (one percent of 75000 people is 750 people).

This isn't a big number compared to the United States, Italy, France, Spain, or UK. That's not the issue. The issue is that India is a poor country. Three-generation households are very common. On March 24th there were at least 75000 infections in India and these people were locked down in their small homes. Many of these people are asymptomatic and will spread this virus unknowingly.

Half of these 75000 people contracted this virus between March 20th and March 24th. This means most of these 37500 were asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic on March 24th. The average incubation period is 5-6 days, but it could be as much as 14 days in some people. This means it may take them as much as 2 weeks to spread this virus to one of their family members. If their family members don't develop any symptoms before the end of the 21-day lockdown, they are very likely to go on with their lives and start spreading the virus again.

That's why we believe Modi's 21 day lockdown will slow down the virus significantly, but won't be enough to contain it. If India doesn't extend the lockdown, the virus will start spreading freely again and India will be in the same situation before the end of May. I believe this will lead to a recession no matter what.

If India extends the lockdown another 4 weeks, it will potentially save millions of lives but its economy will be in a recession.

iShares MSCI India ETF (INDA) and iShares India 50 ETF (INDY) are two of the largest India ETFs and they lost close to 40% since reaching their 52 week highs. I would not short any of these two ETFs at this point, but I think they are likely to decline further as there is no economically good outcome whatever Modi decides to do.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/least-75-000-coronavirus-infections-041207265.html
 
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If that were true a lot of people would have been dying outside hospitals with respiratory issues waiting to get tested. You cant hide something like that in a country like India. This isn't China. So, most probably not correct. Certainly, we are testing less and that should be increased and there are probably more cases than what we have detected, but no way would it be 75 K.
 
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If that were true a lot of people would have been dying outside hospitals with respiratory issues waiting to get tested. You cant hide something like that in a country like India. This isn't China. So, most probably not correct. Certainly, we are testing less and that should be increased and there are probably more cases than what we have detected, but no way would it be 75 K.
25% of infected have no symptoms. 90% heal on their own without hospitalization. This assessment is conservative.
 
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At 1% of 1 billion we are talking about approx. 10 Million dead to put it crudely. Must be a delightful result for RSS fire pyre goons and arsonists.
 
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RSS Nazis are burning people in their homes as panic spreads in India in middle of civil war.
 
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The new coronavirus disease turned into a global pandemic because this novel virus could spread weeks without detection. There are several data points that indicate that 20-50% of all coronavirus infections are asymptomatic. Almost all countries are merely reacting to this virus rather than proactively working on preventing its spread. India is one of these countries even though it moved faster than most countries to impose a national lockdown to stop COVID-19 speed train on its tracks."

I published an article on March 20 and calculated that 2 million people in America had coronavirus as of March 20. The model I developed estimated that the death toll in American will surpass 800 by March 26, 6400 by April 4th, and 20 thousand by April 15th. On the morning of March 26, the number of coronavirus deaths in America was 1042. The death toll in America also jumped to 7000+ on the morning of April 4th. In other words, the model I have developed produced actually very conservative estimates (i.e. the actual number of deaths and infections are higher than what we predicted).

428959c51a43a10e6c9a595045effe80

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In this article I am going to model the number of infections in India and make conservative predictions about the minimum number of deaths that we should expect to see in the next couple of weeks.

In this article I am going to model the number of infections in India and make conservative predictions about the minimum number of deaths that we should expect to see in the next couple of weeks.

In this article I estimated the infection fatality rate of COVID-19 at 1.2% for the United States. However, India has a relatively younger population than the U.S. and I believe its overall infection fatality rate will be lower. To be conservative and keep the math simple, I will assume that India's IFR is 1%.

The main implication of a 1% infection fatality rate is as follows: if 100 people are infected with the new coronavirus today, only 1 of them will lose their struggle with this virus and the remaining 99 people will survive this ordeal.

Approximately 5-6 days after a person is infected with the virus, she begins to show symptoms (fever, cough, fatigue, etc.). There are multiple data points in different countries that indicate that 20-50% of the infected people do not show any symptoms. Therefore, it is thought that these people have an important role in the spread of this virus so rapidly. After the patients show symptoms for 5-6 days, some of them become more severe and have to be hospitalized. The hospital stay is around 14 days on average and then the case is resolved (either recovery or death).

In total, it takes around 24 days for the patient to lose her life after getting infected with the virus. Some researchers use Gamma distributions to model this in their papers, but again we are using a simplified model so that untrained readers could understand our model (using a Gamma distribution doesn't lead to better conclusions).

This is an important figure.

In India today at least 86 people lost their lives because of the coronavirus (I am hoping that Indian authorities didn't undercount the COVID-19 deaths). These people were not infected with this virus today, nor were they infected with it yesterday. These people were infected with this coronavirus around 24 days ago.

In other words, 86 people were infected this virus on March 11th or earlier and lost their lives after fighting with this virus for 24 days on average. We also know that only one out of every 100 people who get the coronavirus lost their lives.

This means that on March 11th, in India there were 100 coronavirus infections for each deaths TODAY. So, there were a total of 8600 people infected with the new coronavirus in India on March 11th. If you understand how we calculated this 8600 figure, it's relatively easy to understand the rest of our model. I am aware that Indian authorities confirmed only 60 COVID-19 cases on March 11th, which explains why the number of infections have been growing exponentially since then.


In the USA, Italy and other countries the number of infections and deaths doubled every 3 days before they started implementing social distancing measures. The figures in India point to a slightly slower growth rate of 4 days. We know that 1% of those who are infected dies after about 24 days. Therefore, we can calculate the rate of increase in the number of infections by looking at the rate of increase in the number of those who lost their lives.

For example, in India the death toll was 32 on March 31st. This number doubled in 4 days and reached 86 (the rate of increase is a little more than 100%).

On March 27th the death toll in India was 20. This number quadrupled in 8 days and reached 86 (more or less).

Now we can start to predict the actual number of infections and project the death toll for the next couple of weeks.

We already calculated that there were around 8600 infections in India on March 11th. Since the number of infections is doubling every 4 days, we know that it will double to 17200 on March 15th, 34400 on March 19th, and 68800 on March 23rd.

Using a conservative growth rate between March 23rd and March 24th, we can safely estimate that there were at least 75000 coronavirus infections in India on March 24th.

On March 24th Modi ordered a 21-day lockdown to slow down the spread of COVID-19. So, we will stay conservative and assume that the number of infections stayed the same since March 24th. On March 24th Modi ordered a 21-day lockdown to slow down the spread of COVID-19. So, we will stay conservative and assume that the number of infections stayed the same since March 24th.

The immediate implication of this figure is that on April 17th, 24 days after March 24th, the death toll in India will reach 750 (one percent of 75000 people is 750 people).

This isn't a big number compared to the United States, Italy, France, Spain, or UK. That's not the issue. The issue is that India is a poor country. Three-generation households are very common. On March 24th there were at least 75000 infections in India and these people were locked down in their small homes. Many of these people are asymptomatic and will spread this virus unknowingly.

Half of these 75000 people contracted this virus between March 20th and March 24th. This means most of these 37500 were asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic on March 24th. The average incubation period is 5-6 days, but it could be as much as 14 days in some people. This means it may take them as much as 2 weeks to spread this virus to one of their family members. If their family members don't develop any symptoms before the end of the 21-day lockdown, they are very likely to go on with their lives and start spreading the virus again.

That's why we believe Modi's 21 day lockdown will slow down the virus significantly, but won't be enough to contain it. If India doesn't extend the lockdown, the virus will start spreading freely again and India will be in the same situation before the end of May. I believe this will lead to a recession no matter what.

If India extends the lockdown another 4 weeks, it will potentially save millions of lives but its economy will be in a recession.

iShares MSCI India ETF (INDA) and iShares India 50 ETF (INDY) are two of the largest India ETFs and they lost close to 40% since reaching their 52 week highs. I would not short any of these two ETFs at this point, but I think they are likely to decline further as there is no economically good outcome whatever Modi decides to do.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/least-75-000-coronavirus-infections-041207265.html
When monkey take the data and create a statistical model, result will be like peanuts.

At 1% of 1 billion we are talking about approx. 10 Million dead to put it crudely. Must be a delightful result for RSS fire pyre goons and arsonists.
Don't you think such large scale death statistics will be visible in democracy like India, China and its colonies can suppress such information,
 
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Mumbai hospital shut after surge in COVID-19 cases among staff

MUMBAI: A major private hospital in Mumbai was shut to new patients and declared a COVID-19 containment zone on Monday (Apr 6) after 26 nurses and three doctors tested positive, an official said.

Mumbai city authority spokesman Vijay Khabale-Patil told AFP that the Wockhardt Hospital has been declared a "containment zone" after the cases were confirmed.

"Three hundred staffers have been quarantined and the hospital is shut," he told AFP.

The United Nurses Association (UNA) in Mumbai accused hospital management of failing to protect staff by refusing to let them wear appropriate safety gear.

"They told the medical staffers to wear simple (surgical) masks ... and attend to the patient," said Akash S. Pillai, UNA general secretary for Maharashtra state, of which Mumbai is the capital.

"They were thinking that if the staff wore protective gear, family members of COVID-19 patients would get scared," he told AFP.

India has so far recorded over 4,000 coronavirus cases.

But experts caution the real numbers are likely to be far higher, with the country carrying out little testing of its 1.3 billion population compared to many other countries.

Mumbai, home to 12.5 million people according to the 2011 census, has so far confirmed 458 cases, including five in the Dharavi area, home to one of Asia's biggest slums, and 30 deaths.

"Many well-known hospitals in Mumbai and Pune are putting their staffers through the same risks," he said.

He added that Wockhardt waited too long to carry out tests on its staff, thereby increasing the possibility for infections to spread.

 
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Death in the slum: India holds its breath as coronavirus spreads to tightly-packed shanty town

Ashish Shukla is a senior journalist and geopolitical analyst based in India, author of ‘How United States Shot Humanity.’
7 Apr, 2020

A series of coronavirus deaths in India’s biggest slum has panicked authorities and raised a difficult question: how can the government stop a virulent illness in the most vulnerable of neighborhoods?
The alarm was raised on Wednesday following the death of a 56-year-old man. The man was not a prominent official or local celebrity. Indeed, he was a simple garment seller. But he happened to live in one of Asia’s biggest slums, Dharavi, which houses one million people in little over two square kilometers.

Situated on the outskirts of Mumbai, Dharavi packs nearly five times as many people into each square kilometer than the most densely populated district in New York City. Only in Dharavi, they live ten to a hut, and 80 people share a public toilet.

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Dharavi, one of Asia's largest slums, in Mumbai, India, December 27, 2016. © REUTERS/Shailesh Andrade
When a street sweeper fell ill with the virus on Thursday, the authorities took action.

A team of doctors and volunteers descended upon the area, with police in tow. They fanned out and stayed till midnight. Families were isolated. Some 2,500 neighbours were stamped for quarantine. The deceased man’s movements during the last two weeks were retraced with the help of his acquaintances. A list of his contacts was compiled and the people on it alerted. His shop, and some 100 others, including the nearby 330 flats, were cordoned off. Common spaces between the buildings were sprayed with hydrochloric acid. A posse of policemen now guards the area to enforce no violation.

A breeding ground for infection
But that’s not to say that Dharavi isn’t a potential coronavirus hotspot. It has a long history of epidemics. It was devastated by an 1896 plague which killed half of Mumbai’s population, and recurrent plagues would characterise the area for the next quarter of a century, all with high mortality rates.

Dysentery, cholera, typhoid, leprosy, polio have dropped its residents like flies, with Dharavi’s high population density and poor sanitation hastening their spread. In 1986, a cholera epidemic showed up most of its victims hailing from Dharavi. Those who survive the epidemics aren’t out of the woods either. Fires and floods are recurrent in the slum, and a 2013 inferno gutted more than 800 buildings.

India girds up loins for challenge
Today’s anxiety of the Indian officials is understandable. The government has counted the elders in the locality and put them under extensive testing. Fortunately, the country is now equipped with antibody blood tests which take only 15-30 minutes. India also has an Integrated Disease Surveillance Programme (IDSP) for a decade and half now. Its data allows health authorities to scan cases from the Public Health Care (PHC) level upwards. It can spot clusters of a community outbreak of diseases, and quarantine problem areas.

Indian authorities, for the moment, have identified around a dozen of these hotspots, but Dharavi is not one of them. Nevertheless, the dramatic police response last week suggests that they are doing all they can to prevent it from becoming one. After all, social distancing and self-isolation are all but impossible in such a crowded slum.

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© REUTERS/Danish Siddiqui
"We are talking about a slum where 10-12 people live in 10x10 feet tin hutments. You can't expect them to sit at home all day long," Vinod Shetty, director of a sanitation workers’ non-profit told India’s NDTV. "They pay 25 rupees (33 US cents) for a gallon of water, you'll tell them to wash their hands frequently. Eighty people share a public toilet, you'll tell them to not leave their house. How is that possible?"

"We are a family of five," one resident told AFP. "We use communal toilets or have to get water from public taps. Only God can save us.”

With living conditions on the virus’ side, authorities are no doubt hoping that a strong initial crackdown can save Dharavi from having to weather yet another epidemic.

Outside the slum, more than 4,700 cases of coronavirus have been confirmed in India, and 136 people have died. Worldwide, the virus has infected over 1.3 million people, and claimed more than 74,600 lives.
 
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If that were true a lot of people would have been dying outside hospitals with respiratory issues waiting to get tested. You cant hide something like that in a country like India. This isn't China. So, most probably not correct. Certainly, we are testing less and that should be increased and there are probably more cases than what we have detected, but no way would it be 75 K.

Exactly these fools don't get it. If India was purposefully low testing and fudging numbers like China then people would be dying in cities , villages , outside hospitals in large scale and the type of hyperactive media we have, this would have never escaped their notice. Someone would have called from hospital and informed them about it and we would see the breaking news.
 
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