The world is finally uniting against China’s bully tactics

[masterchief_mirza]

How can South Asian part impact Pakistanis your ancestors are either Turks or Central Asians or Arabs...... I am talking specific to specifi to south asians who were slaves of Muslims and then British and got converted .....

You guys are white skinned rulers so dont worry

Let's be clear then. Whatever our origins in Pakistan, we made natural societal evolutionary steps forwards when something superior to the caste hegemony came along, and we happily left our distant gangetic cousins behind. This is the bit you fail to grasp. We're very happy that our ancestors were polytheist child sacrificers who actually saw that there was something better out there, something better than gifting gold to be hoarded in temples, gifting humans for sacrifice or sati, and gifting dark skinned dalits into a life of slavery for pale skinned steppeland invaders who called themselves Brahmins.

Today, we in Pakistan remain pleased that our ancestors chose to abandon the sorcery of yesteryear and advance themselves. Meanwhile, in India, you still have hordes of insecure and inferiority complex driven wiki editors, who literally have shrines to Donald Trump and believe whatever mad yoga Modi tells them to believe - hordes. A few would be manageable, but bloody hell, HORDES.

This horde mentality is what Pakistan has tried to cope with for decades. Now China is quickly realising that the sheer weight of numbers of wiki editors you are able to activate actually creates a low quality high volume information war front that needs to be countered. If not, then a loss in 1962 slowly becomes a stalemate which slowly erodes into an Indian victory with a trishul being raised in Beijing. Don't even get me started on the b.s. floating around about the 15th June incident.

Keep all of these matters in mind when you decide to pass such infantile and misinformed judgements on your neighbours.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Its no use when u only have "more say" in short time like Mongol or British empires ( Mongol is split into half by CN-Russia while UK is dominated by US MNCs).

Meanwhile, small VN keep expanding, from small area near CN, then we got the South from Khmer, Champa, and then we got 60-65% SCS ( east VN sea) where 85-90 % of SK-JP cargo ships must pass throught.

In Confucius we prefer "Do more, talk less"

Mongol empire lasted quite some time and had a long lasting effect on several countries to this day. Same with the British empire. No empire can last forever, no matter how powerful they might be at one point. At some point in time there will be decline from one reason or another (either internally or externally).
As for Vietnam, Vietnam has done pretty well, considering they went through a vicious bloody war of independence from the French and then subsequent civil war which drew in the US . Following that they had little rest or space to breath/grow since they were involved in skirmishes with most of their neighbours Thailand, Cambodia(where they had to intervene and invade the country totally to remove the bloody kmmer rouge, and then face a short but bloody war with their big neighbor China. Even after all this, the country was still put under sanctions by the U.S/U.K/Western world and even by communist brother China. So Vietnam was virtually strangled from all sides during those turbulent era until the mid to late 90s when the sanctions were eased . So Vietnam did come from very far. So they haven't done bad considering all this setbacks.
I agree that Vietnam has done well in seizing many islands in SCS compared to it's neighbours who it seems were sleeping or didn't realise this islands and sea lanes potential back then. Lol
However, it's Abit far fatched to say Vietnam has much say in world affairs or determining how things might played out. For example it's only because the U.S/West have conflict of interests with China at this point that Vietnam even has an opportunity and leeway to posture the way they are doing. Without western powers leading role in the world (media, economy, science , technology, financial sectors etc) then Vietnam would have been left at the mercy of China , and believe me you guys won't have any islands in control in SCS.
In fact even today the US still patrols the SCS to challenge China's claim and prevent them from maintaining or claiming control of the region as a fait accompli. Without this leading power(U.S) contest with this rising power(China) then nobody will even be talking much about the SCS and China would have taken control of all it without much focus by media over here.
This is why I said power and influence matters if you really want to make your voice even remotely heard. Else you will just have to abide by what others tell you or just capitulate reluctantly.
To make things simple, look at the way your country Vietnam subdued Cambodia and influence the country thereafter (even their leader was put in power by you guys) did anybody in the world even cares about Cambodians and their feelings about this ? Nobody even bothers to report much about that, much less doing something about it. That's because Cambodia is weak and inconsequential in the afford of things in the world. Had combodia been a powerful country then things would have been different.

 

[TheTruth]

Mosher is a nasty Jew with Asian fetish, and has been mad at China for 40 years ever since his academic career was wrecked by his own fraudulent activities in China.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Mongol empire lasted quite some time and had a long lasting effect on several countries to this day. Same with the British empire. No empire can last forever, no matter how powerful they might be at one point. At some point in time there will be decline from one reason or another (either internally or externally).
As for Vietnam, Vietnam has done pretty well, considering they went through a vicious bloody war of independence from the French and then subsequent civil war which drew in the US . Following that they had little rest or space to breath/grow since they were involved in skirmishes with most of their neighbours Thailand, Cambodia(where they had to intervene and invade the country totally to remove the bloody kmmer rouge, and then face a short but bloody war with their big neighbor China. Even after all this, the country was still put under sanctions by the U.S/U.K/Western world and even by communist brother China. So Vietnam was virtually strangled from all sides during those turbulent era until the mid to late 90s when the sanctions were eased . So Vietnam did come from very far. So they haven't done bad considering all this setbacks.
I agree that Vietnam has done well in seizing many islands in SCS compared to it's neighbours who it seems were sleeping or didn't realise this islands and sea lanes potential back then. Lol

We had some serious mistakes and problems during 80s, but we didnt fall like Soviet.

What's happening now, Im at my company now and working happily while u, in UK, have to stay at home for a very long social distancing due to Covid.

Covid prove that Western world may not last longer than 10 year from now . I dont know how u guys keep surviving when u guys dont even have a proper PPE factory to make enough PPE for your own need.

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However, it's Abit far fatched to say Vietnam has much say in world affairs or determining how things might played out. For example it's only because the U.S/West have conflict of interests with China at this point that Vietnam even has an opportunity and leeway to posture the way they are doing. Without western powers leading role in the world (media, economy, science , technology, financial sectors etc) then Vietnam would have been left at the mercy of China , and believe me you guys won't have any islands in control in SCS.
In fact even today the US still patrols the SCS to challenge China's claim and prevent them from maintaining or claiming control of the region as a fait accompli. Without this leading power(U.S) contest with this rising power(China) then nobody will even be talking much about the SCS and China would have taken control of all it without much focus by media over here.
This is why I said power and influence matters if you really want to make your voice even remotely heard. Else you will just have to abide by what others tell you or just capitulate reluctantly.
To make things simple, look at the way your country Vietnam subdued Cambodia and influence the country thereafter (even their leader was put in power by you guys) did anybody in the world even cares about Cambodians and their feelings about this ? Nobody even bothers to report much about that, much less doing something about it. That's because Cambodia is weak and inconsequential in the afford of things in the world. Had combodia been a powerful country then things would have been different.
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Haha.Do u realize why US supported CN to sanction VN in 80s ? Bcs US or CN alone Can not stop VN expansion in SCS ( east VN sea) and in sub Mekong region,too. Without US forces in SCS ( east VN sea), then VN may re take all islands occupied by Pinoy, Malay there as their navy r too weak against VN.

Thats why without US there, then No one can stop VN expansion. U think CN navy is enough to stop VN ?? Dude, dont forget that VN can buy Nuke sub marine from Russia at anytime.

3 or 4 nuke sub marine bought from Russia r enough to keep CN navy at bay.We dont buy it yet just bcs we dont want both US- CN shake hands and slap sanction to VN again.