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The water will come from Central Asia, and I will bring it: Zardari

hahahaha ... Zardari ....

He could not even solve the issue of water and care for Ibn Qasim National Park
and his own home is lush green

Where will he bring water from again ?
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Pata nahi kis ki bud dua lagi hai ke Zardari aur Nawaz jaisay manhoos humaray galay lag gaye hain
 
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No one can stop Pakistan's water, don't go on election statements

try taking a bottle of water away from a thirsty man and your "left behinds" will see the results of.
 
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Whole Pakistan already bathing in the filthy corruption of "Lake Zardari".
 
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Suchlike more irresponsible statements are expected from this man in future near elections. In fact he is giving demonstration to his western lords who hav shaken hands with India to create misconception in Pakistan over building new dams/water reservoirs. Pakistan needs Kala Bagh Dam and further alike projects to meet the needs of water and energy in future. He and other traitors of his group will keep working on their anti-Pakistan agenda but history will witness a prosperous and progressive Pakistan.
 
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I call it a giant stinking pile of bull tit.

Why?

Because Mush already had this deal to work with PPP. Americans knew it. British knew it. ISI knew it. Perhaps some other stakeholders too.

So if it was planned and it was - What kind of elections did we have?

That sympathy vote argument is tit chit because the deal was already done.

Islam' best fauji jernails are a sell out.
mush at that time wasnt a "general" to the time you are referring to , he was just a politician
 
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Despite all the evidence of corruption, money laundering and committing murder and what not ,this HARAMI IS going around running with his mouth.......why?.

Honestly speaking gadari is enemy of the state & he should be arrested for his unlimited crimes against Pakistan. But I don't know why he is not arrested for his unlimited treachery. It only pisses me off.

These corrupt & treacherous politicians should be arrested & sentenced to death for their unlimited crimes against Pakistan, only then we will see honest leaders & not politicians.
 
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I think Tajikistan have excess water they provide water to other central asian states too.

Nurek dam on Vakhs River

There are much easier solutions to this water issue. I read it on a Chinese strategy site, there was a plan someone published that apparently had been vetted out with the Pakistani government almost a year and a half ago. It had three solutions working together, I don't have the maps from it, but I remember the content:

1: China will divert Indus and another very large Indian river's water towards a lake and will tunnel the water back into Indus when it gets right inside Pakistan. They said that due to the speed at which the Chinese build infrastructure, it was a total 12-24 month game. After 12 months, some water would start to flow as the Phase I, 24 months means full diversion of Indus and that other major Indian river.

2: Diversion of Indus, and back flow some Ocean water for irrigation back into rivers, starting from Baluchistan and going round and round ending into another river before the Indus This was a 36 month long project as a special canal was to be built with a below sea-surface bed and it would intersect with rivers to dump water in. Sea water has a lot of good minerals in it so it's good for agriculture after basic filteration. The Indus water would be used for drinking and power generation, as it can feed all the dams running in full capacity, but with limited agriculture use.

The same report also said that from Baluchistan's ocean, a U shaped underground tunnel system can go all the way to Indus and intersect with various rivers and come back making a U shape and end in the ocean somewhere around Sindh. That would ensure water is supplied throughout Pakistan for irrigation and Indus diversion can provide water for drinking purposes. So none of these are very difficult projects. A country can block a few rivers. No one can block an Ocean :enjoy:
 
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fkn bastard hundreds died in Thar his own province and he lecturing in other provinces.
 
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Central Asia is also water short.

High and Dry: Central Asia’s Failure to Avert the Impending Water Crisis
Alisher Ilkhamov January 13, 2017 37(4) Fall 2016, Central Asia, Economics, Environment, Features, Health, Security
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The Syr Darya River Floodplain is shown from space. Photo Credit: NASA, public domain.

In 2016, the World Resources Institute published a map called Water Stress by Country, comparing the shortages of fresh water experienced by countries across the world. This map clearly indicates the Mongolian-Arabian belt of high water stress, which includes Central Asia, along with Mongolia, Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, and the Arabian Peninsula. As a result of a number of factors, it can be argued that these countries belong to a zone of coming crisis, a lack of fresh water.

A study by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, operating under the auspices of the United Nations, shows that since the beginning of the twentieth century the overall temperature in the region has increased by 1-2 percent, and one can expect further raising by 2-4 percent in the coming decades. According to the World Bank, this trend may result in a 11 percent fall in the region’s GDP in the next 20 years.

Central Asia’s main sources of water resources are two major river basins, the Amudarya and Syrdarya, both of which are tributaries of the Aral Sea, which used to be one of the world largest lakes. According to forecasts, due to the expected melting of mountain glaciers, the river runoff in the Amudarya river basin will be reduced by 30 percent, compared with the average annual runoff over the past 10 years. This will lead to increased spring runoff, causing more flooding, as well as dramatically reduced water availability in the summer, causing more droughts. There is no need to say that this trend will most severely affect agriculture, a dominant sector of the economy in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, as well as southern Kazakhstan.

Are countries in the region prepared to face this scenario? Do all of them have adequate awareness of this issue? At the very least, there are no signs of discussions in the public sphere going on in the region on this subject.

The coming shortage of fresh water is only part of the broader set of water scarcity problems in Central Asia. These problems also include a lack of irrigation water for agriculture, as well as the pollution of the Amudarya and Syrdarya by high content of salts and agrochemicals from irrigation runoff. As a result, we are witnessing a social and economic crisis in the regions located downstream from the two main rivers, as well as declining quality of life in those areas, as populations experience water shortages and are forced to consume water with high salt content.

National level solutions
The long-term solution to Central Asia’s water problems very much depends on how governments in the region approach the problem on the national level. There are three fundamental factors in this respect.

The first one is the governments’ attitudes towards domestic water conservation, especially in light of climate change’s effects on the availability of water for household consumption and for the economy. There are no signs that countries that rely upon the Amudarya and Syrdarya are undertaking efforts to ration available water resources. There have been no attempts to learn from other countries that deal with water scarcity, such as Israel. Instead, the region’s agriculture promotes waste of water resources. According to the local Uzbekistani expert Arustan Zholdasov, up to 50 percent of water resources are being lost in Uzbekistan’s irrigation networks.

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The Aral Sea, in 1989 (shown on left) and 2014 (right). Photo Credit: NASA, via public domain.

Wasteful use of water resources is characteristic to all countries in the region. According to Olli Varis, Turkmenistan consumes annually about 5.5 thousand cubic meters of water per capita, which is the highest rate in the world. This is four times greater than per capita consumption in the United States, and 13 times higher than in China. Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan annually consume about two thousand cubic meters per capita, ranking as the fourth and fifth most wasteful water consumers in the world. Tajikistan and Kazakhstan are seventh and eleventh, respectively.

The second factor is the high birth rate in the region, which increases the total demand for fresh water. Although the fertility rate in the region is gradually falling, overall population growth is still rising steadily. In Uzbekistan, for example, the number of births per thousand fell from 35 in 1991 to 19-20. However, in 2015, the total population of Uzbekistan grew by 444,000, or by 1.5 percent. Over the last five to six years the annual population growth rate in this country was in the range of 410,000 to 440,000.

The main contributor to the high birth rate is the large rural population in each country. For example, in Uzbekistan, 64 percent of citizens live in a rural area, up from 60 percent in 1991. These rural populations also heavily rely on agriculture, which comprises 91.3 percent of current water demand in the region. In comparison, industry and households consume only 4.3 percent and 4.4 percent respectively.

The agrarian nature of the Central Asian states is the third fundamental factor that contributes to the water shortage problem. Therefore, urbanization could be a solution to regional water scarcity. However, that would require more jobs in industry and services. Unfortunately, deeply flawed economic policies in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan do not promote development towards a service-based economy. Both countries still preserve elements of a command economy, which, along with high corruption, prevents business development. In Uzbekistan , farmers also face compulsory production quotas and administratively-imposed procurement prices removing the incentives to invest in water-saving irrigation technology.

Issues of regional cooperation
A number of national and regional institutions have been established in the region in the past few decades to combat water scarcity. Examples include the International Fund for Saving the Aral Sea, the Interstate Coordination Water Commission of Central Asia, and the Research and Information Centre. These organizations, as well as a number of water management projects, have received financial and technical assistance from international donors and agencies, such as Swiss, German, and American international development agencies, the United Nations Development Programme, the World Bank, the Asian Development Bank, and the European Union, among others. In other words, there is no shortage of financial and intellectual resources to solve this problem.

It is time to raise the question of whether these initiatives produce effective outcomes. The Fund for Saving the Aral Sea is dedicated to preventing further depletion of the Aral Sea, which was once the fourth largest body of water in the world. However, according to available data, as of 2016, almost 90 percent of the Aral Sea’s water surface has already disappeared.

This inefficiency of the Fund for Saving the Aral Sea is not surprising, as practically all interstate initiatives and institutions in the region have similarly proven to be hollow, refusing to move beyond empty declarations.

Due to this failure to develop regional approaches to rationalizing the use of water resources, and most importantly, to enforce already adopted agreements in practice, the region remains split between two groups of countries: first, those situated in the upper reaches of the region’s main rivers and, for understandable reasons, not experiencing a lack of water, and second, those located in the lower reaches of these rivers. The first group includes Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, a significant proportion of whose territory is the highlands. The second group comprises Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, all of which have arid climates with a large area of steppes and deserts. In Uzbekistan, only the Kyzylkum desert, the sixteenth largest in the world, covers 60 percent of its territory. A similar situation is in Turkmenistan where the Karakum desert occupies 70 percent of the country’s territory.

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Water resource and population statistics in Central Asia, by country. Calculated on the basis of data provided by Cwater-info.net.

For comparison, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan together account for 85 percent of the annual circulation of water in rivers and reservoirs in the Aral Sea basin, leaving only 15 percent of the other three countries. In terms of annual volume of water resources per capita, the first group of countries accounts for 6,000 cubic meters of river water, while the second group only 304 — 23 times less.

As it would seem, the uneven distribution of water resources between these two groups of countries begs for closer cooperation. However, over the past two and a half decades, the level of regional cooperation has remained very low. Regional conflicts further complicate matters, as countries have occasionally become involved in border conflicts, the blocking of gas supplies at border crossings, and arguments over hydroelectric power projects.

Most of the tension is taking place between Uzbekistan and its neighbors Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Uzbekistan fears that its neighbors’ plans to construct large hydroelectric power plants could disrupt its water supply by changing the flow of water in major tributaries of the Amudarya and Syrdarya. Uzbekistan has threatened to cut its gas supply to Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan in response. This is a stark example of the deep mutual distrust between regional neighbors.

In Soviet times, Moscow oversaw the observance of the balance in distribution of water and energy resources within the region. On the one hand, a schedule and per country quotas were set up for water outflow from reservoirs on the territory of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan (from the Toktogul and Nurek hydroelectric power stations on the Naryn and the Vakhsh rivers), and Moscow could indeed guarantee that these quotas were met. On the other hand, Uzbekistan provided the upstream countries with gas, which removed the need in the two highland countries for additional electric energy during the winter season and reduced the need for a large volume water outflow from the water reservoirs in this period of the year. With the collapse of the Soviet Union and the formation of new independent states, each side began pulling the blanket over themselves, thus breaking the previously established balance. Gas supplies to the upper reaches of the country began to experience disruptions, especially in winter periods. In turn, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan started letting down maximum water down from their already existing reservoirs to compensate for a lack of energy during the winter. The extra water outflow began to cause the flooding of settlements and the overfilling of water reservoirs in the territory of Uzbekistan and southern Kazakhstan during the winter period when the need for water in these countries is low. The constriction of the Kambarata-1 and Rogun hydro plants would exacerbate this situation, unless all parties agree to reestablish and to observe the gas supply–water quota balance. Unfortunately, in reality the conflict has gone too far.

To prevent the realization of the Rogun project, in addition to diplomatic pressure, Uzbekistan began resorting to an economic blockade, by waging a “railroad war” with Tajikistan. In 2011, a bridge in Surkhandarya region of Uzbekistan, on which the railway line linking Kurgan-Tyube in the southern region of Tajikistan with the Uzbekistani city of Termez along with other CIS countries, was blown up. It is quite obvious that it was done by the Uzbekistani side to deny Tajikistan the use of Uzbekistan as a transit territory for Tajikistani railway freight cars.

Conclusion
As we can see, the solution to the problem of conservation and rational use of water resources requires a complex set of measures at the national and regional levels, and most importantly, the development of robust institutions. If the formation of institutions does not work at the national level, it is unlikely that we will see the emergence of capable institutions on a regional scale. It seems that regional governments and local populations are not prepared to meet the challenge and prevent an impending water crisis. As for international organizations, agencies, and donors, although they want to help countries in Central Asia solve these problems, they are not able to replace these governments and do the work that these governments are supposed to do themselves.

Given the current state of affairs, I remain quite skeptical about the possibility of solving key problems of a looming water shortage in the region. Perhaps, an old saying better reflects what we can expect in observable future: “The worse the better.” Until the people of Central Asia begin experiencing real hardships due to lack of water, they are unlikely to confront the government with a strong political will and desire for change.


http://hir.harvard.edu/high-dry-central-asias-failure-avert-impending-water-crisis/
 
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