The USAF's new stealth drone changes everything

[Dante80]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/meet...-air-forces-new-stealth-wonder-weapon.606801/

 

[YeBeWarned]

in almost every advance technology US is always in the lead ..

 

[LeGenD]

@Dubious

Related threads:-

[1] https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/meet...-air-forces-new-stealth-wonder-weapon.606801/

[2] https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-usafs-new-stealth-drone-changes-everything.606713/

Merger time?

 

[Ultima Thule]

Subsonic, flying wings can't become supersonic due its design limitations @Yaseen1

That is one ugly mf. This is what you call a drone.

Its experimental drone and its nowhere near operational @undertakerwwefan

Not sure but far more range than the American drone. Look at the size, it's way bigger.

Experimental not in PLAAF and weaker part for PLAAF is that they still struggling for jet engine tech @undertakerwwefan

 

[skyshadow]

So? Iranian account is not independently verified. The RQ-170 variant [in question] had a very high penetration rate as it was operating over Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan since 2007, which is impressive to say the least. And RQ-170 have advanced much further as a platform since 2011; new variants are much better.

Secondly, US have developed some of the most capable drones out there which have operated in hostile environments and nobody was able to affect them. Examples include RQ-4 Global Hawk, Avenger (Predator C) and RQ-180. The latter most is the most elusive drone out there.

If advanced drones were so easy to take down then US would have abandoned this spectrum of warfare. Iranians would be idiots to believe that Iranian airspace violations have ceased after 2011, and their defenses cannot be breached.

Of course it can be penetrated. But before 2007, Iran had virtually no air defense systems, but it now produces a air defense system more powerful than S300 PMU2 and all kind of radars and over the horizon radars with a range of 1500 and 3000 kilometers. Iran now penetrates the US Army Command and Reconnaissance Center and directly monitors US operations from there UAV cameras live and lands there UAVs in Iraq and Syria. many things have changed for Iran too since 2011.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran...-footage-from-missions-as-proof-video.603299/

 

[OCguy]

It's common to see actual production US weaponry countered with prototype/mockups. Oh well.

 

[LeGenD]

Of course it can be penetrated. But before 2007, Iran had virtually no air defense systems, but it now produces a air defense system more powerful than S300 PMU2 and all kind of radars and over the horizon radars with a range of 1500 and 3000 kilometers. Iran now penetrates the US Army Command and Reconnaissance Center and directly monitors US operations from there UAV cameras live and lands there UAVs in Iraq and Syria. many things have changed for Iran too since 2011.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran...-footage-from-missions-as-proof-video.603299/

FYI

https://www.reddit.com/r/path%3D%252Fr%252Fworldnews%252Fcomments%252Fati9wz%252F

EDIT: The aforementioned link is not working but you can Google it.

Of-course, Iranian defenses have improved over time, but nothing extraordinary for Americans to cope with. And some of your claims are borderline absurd.

If state-sponsored Iranian hackers have successfully infiltrated American C5ISR Center then they should have no issue in taking control of any American drone operating in the Middle East and landing it in Iran. So why have your country utterly failed to hijack drones which I have mentioned in my earlier post?

I understand the motive behind state-sponsored hacking activities, and an intrusion might be achieved at a certain point in time but it will be discovered and bridged as well.

You guys present a very grim picture of American security apparatus, and Iran being at the top of its game, but mark my words! When US will decide to come after you in force - you guys will be in for a rude awakening. And I fear that Iran is the next primary target after Iraq - this is not my personal assumption but based on numerous indicators circulating on the web.

Iranian hackers might be competent on average but state-sponsored propaganda is just as bad as Indian. At the least, make the propaganda part realistic.

 

[graphican]

We don't care who (USA, RUSSIA, or CHINA) makes the best one, but Pakistan needs them. May be put Pakistani engineers to work - or start another JV with China - but unmanned aerial vehicles of this caliber are the future.

Of course it can be penetrated. But before 2007, Iran had virtually no air defense systems, but it now produces a air defense system more powerful than S300 PMU2 and all kind of radars and over the horizon radars with a range of 1500 and 3000 kilometers. Iran now penetrates the US Army Command and Reconnaissance Center and directly monitors US operations from there UAV cameras live and lands there UAVs in Iraq and Syria. many things have changed for Iran too since 2011.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iran...-footage-from-missions-as-proof-video.603299/

@Iran;
USA keeps gifting you guys one of its best tech for free, and that enables Iran produce better hardware technology decades ahead of its time.

 

[OCguy]

We don't care who (USA, RUSSIA, or CHINA) makes the best one, but Pakistan needs them. May be put Pakistani engineers to work - or start another JV with China - but unmanned aerial vehicles of this caliber are the future.

Certainly it is known in Pakistan that the powers you listed go through extensive lengths to maintain a strategic balance between India and Pakistan......

It is no accident that neither side has procured any game-changing tech from outside sources.

 

[LeGenD]

USA keeps gifting you guys one of its best tech for free, and that enables Iran produce better hardware technology decades ahead of its time.

Iranians are actually very capable in the domain of robotics. They have, and can develop very good drones on their own. Iranian state propaganda is unrealistic though.

If hacking attempts were even half as successful as Iranian state propaganda suggest then Russians would have disabled entire American war-machine in Syria in a matter of days, and China would have shut down entire US military apparatus in a single day, and conquered US by now. Take these claims with a grain of salt.

Real story is that American drones have malfunctioned and crashed at times. This is how Iran usually got its hands on a few.

 

[OCguy]

Iranians are actually very capable in the domain of robotics. They have, and can develop very good drones on their own. Iranian state propaganda is unrealistic though.

Nevertheless, American drones have malfunctioned and crashed at times. This is how Iran usually got its hands on a few.

When the Israelis shot down the Persian Sentinel clone, their reporting was stunning. I had to give Iran credit for their ability to reverse engineer. Far more talented then the Chinese in my opinion.

 

[skyshadow]

FYI

https://www.reddit.com/r/path%3D%252Fr%252Fworldnews%252Fcomments%252Fati9wz%252F

EDIT: The aforementioned link is not working but you can Google it.

Of-course, Iranian defenses have improved over time, but nothing extraordinary for Americans to cope with. And some of your claims are borderline absurd.

If state-sponsored Iranian hackers have successfully infiltrated American C5ISR Center then they should have no issue in taking control of any American drone operating in the Middle East and landing it in Iran. So why have your country utterly failed to hijack drones which I have mentioned in my earlier post?

I understand the motive behind state-sponsored hacking activities, and an intrusion might be achieved at a certain point in time but it will be discovered and bridged as well.

You guys present a very grim picture of American security apparatus, and Iran being at the top of its game, but mark my words! When US will decide to come after you in force - you guys will be in for a rude awakening. And I fear that Iran is the next primary target after Iraq - this is not my personal assumption but based on numerous indicators circulating on the web.

Iranian hackers might be competent on average but state-sponsored propaganda is just as bad as Indian. At the least, make the propaganda part realistic.

state-sponsored propaganda is a method of war that all countries use it but you can not ignore Iran cyber capability. I agree that nobody can accept this kind of news 100%. But stealing a spy plane from the soil of another country will not have a good outcomes. like the Rq 170, it's safe to say that Iran did not find this ability when Rq 170 arrived in Iran this ability already existed back then, and Iran was waiting for the plane to enter its air space to take advantage of this excuse and other UAVs that came after that. But as you can see in the video Iran showed that they landed one of the US UAVs and watched its mission in Syria soil that means they took control of the UAV and then US destroy it with another UAV and Iran was watching that too live, without them knowing it.

but please do not take the wrong i know that US is a light year ahead of us and they will make some thing better than Rq 170 and they did but i will not compare 2007 Iran with Iran of 2019 either.

We don't care who (USA, RUSSIA, or CHINA) makes the best one, but Pakistan needs them. May be put Pakistani engineers to work - or start another JV with China - but unmanned aerial vehicles of this caliber are the future.



@Iran;
USA keeps gifting you guys one of its best tech for free, and that enables Iran produce better hardware technology decades ahead of its time.

agreed

We don't care who (USA, RUSSIA, or CHINA) makes the best one, but Pakistan needs them. May be put Pakistani engineers to work - or start another JV with China - but unmanned aerial vehicles of this caliber are the future.



@Iran;
USA keeps gifting you guys one of its best tech for free, and that enables Iran produce better hardware technology decades ahead of its time.

Iran said that actually, they said that with Rq170 US actually send us 30 years ahead of our UAV capabilitys back then.