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Chinese thermonuclear 3.3-megaton warhead is 100X more powerful than Indian 20-kiloton atomic warhead

Except for you delusional Indian nationalists, everyone else in the world understands that Chinese THERMONUCLEAR MEGATON warheads are 100 times more powerful than vastly inferior Indian ATOMIC KILOTON warheads.

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Rankings of world thermonuclear powers by megatons of firepower:

1. Russia - 1,273 megatons

2. United States - 570 megatons

3. China - 294 megatons (China has over half the nuclear firepower of the United States)

4. France - 55 megatons

5. Britain - 16 megatons

References:

Russia: NTI: Russia - Nuclear Disarmament
United States: NTI: United States - Nuclear Disarmament
China: NTI: China - Nuclear Disarmament
France: NTI: France - Nuclear Disarmament
Britain: NTI: United Kingdom - Nuclear Disarmament

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China's "possible warhead assembly and production facilities" (source: NTI)

NTI: China - Nuclear Disarmament

People's Republic of China (PRC)
NPT Nuclear Weapon State


1. Arsenal Size:

Most opaque of the nuclear weapons state; limited open source information.
Operational strategic warheads: ~176 (Warheads in stockpile: 240)[1]

2. Key Delivery Systems:[2,3,4,5]

* Land-based missiles: Approximately 120.(ICBM: DF-4, DF-5A DF-31, DF-31A; MRBM: DF-3A, DF-21)
* Aircraft: 20 (Hong-6)
* SLBM: 1 Xia-class sub carrying12 JL-1s, never fully deployed; 2 Jin-class subs deployed, 1 under development can each carry 12 JL-2; however the JL-2s have not yet been deployed
* Cruise missiles: DH-10 (nuclear capable) 50-250 deployed
* No credible evidence to confirm that non-strategic weapons still remain in operational force

3. Estimated Destructive Power: 294[6]

4. Military Fissile Material Stockpile: (estimates)

Plutonium: 4 mt (+/- 20 %)[7]
HEU: 20 mt [8]

5. Disarmament and Commitments to Reduce Arsenal Size:

Legal obligation to pursue global disarmament under Article VI of the NPT[9]

Future Commitments:

In support of verifiable FMCT negotiation. The treaty should not cover existing stockpiles[10]

6. Nuclear Weapons Policies

1. Nuclear testing:

* Observed nuclear testing moratorium since July 1996.[12]
* Signed but not ratified CTBT[13]

2. Use of nuclear weapons:

* Adopted no-first use policy[14,15]


* Negative Security Assurances to NWFZ treaty members:

Committed not to use nuclear weapons against members of:
Tlatelolco, Rarotonga, and Pelindaba. Has not signed Bangkok, but reiterates its support.[16]


* Acknowledged the commitments of the NWS to negative security assurances in UN Security Council Resolution 984 (1995).[17]
* Expressed its support for legally binding unconditional negative security assurances.[18]

Sources:
[1] Robert S. Norris and Hans M. Kristensen, "Chinese Nuclear Forces, 2008," Nuclear Notebook, Natural Resources Defense Council, Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, July/August 2008, pp 42-45, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
[2] Robert S. Norris and Hans M. Kristensen, "Chinese Nuclear Forces, 2008," Nuclear Notebook, Natural Resources Defense Council, Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, July/August 2008, pp 42-45, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.
[3] Ballistic and Cruise Missile Threat, National Air Space Intelligence Center, April 2009, Federation of American Scientists.
[4] Military Power of the People's Republic of China 2008, US Department of Defense, The Official Home of the Department of Defense.
[5] Chinese Nuclear Forces, Strategic Security Blog, Federation of American Scientists, Federation of American Scientists.
[6] Eliminating Nuclear Threats, ICNND Report, International Commission on Nuclear Non-proliferation and Disarmament.
[7] International Panel on Fissile Materials, Global Fissile Material Report 2009, IPFM International Panel on Fissile Materials - Mission.
[8] International Panel on Fissile Materials, Global Fissile Material Report 2009, IPFM International Panel on Fissile Materials - Mission.
[9] Inventory of International Nonproliferation Organizations & Regimes, Nuclear Threat Initiative: Home Page.
[10] Statement by Ambassador Jingye Cheng to the Conference on Disarmament, Geneva, 17 May 2006, Reaching Critical Will.
[11] Military Power of the People's Republic of China 2008, US Department of Defense, The Official Home of the Department of Defense.
[12] CTBTO website, Nuclear Testing page, Home: CTBTO Preparatory Commission.
[13] Inventory of International Nonproliferation Organizations & Regimes, Nuclear Threat Initiative: Home Page.
[14] Working Paper Submitted by China to the 2010 NPT Review Conference, 6 May 2010, Reaching Critical Will.
[15] Statement by the Chinese Delegation on the Issue of Security Assurances at the Third Session of the Preparatory committee for the 2010 NPT Review Conference, 7 May 2009, Reaching Critical Will.
[16] NTI Nuclear Weapon Free Zone Tutorial Protocol Chart, Nuclear Threat Initiative: Home Page.
[17] NTI Nuclear Weapon Free Zone Tutorial, Chapter 3, Security Assurances, Nuclear Threat Initiative: Home Page.
[18] Working Paper Submitted by China to the 2010 NPT Review Conference, 6 May 2010, Reaching Critical Will.

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Rankings of world nuclear (thermonuclear/hydrogen P-5 and atomic/fission) powers

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Stunning, Frightening, Explosive and Destructive Power: Detonation of an 11-megaton Thermonuclear Bomb, March 26, 1954
Operation Castle, ROMEO Event
Bikini Atoll, Republic of the Marshall Islands

Rankings of world P-5 (i.e. Five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council) thermonuclear powers by megatons of firepower:

1. Russia - 1,273 megatons

2. United States - 570 megatons

3. China - 294 megatons (China has over half the nuclear firepower of the United States)

4. France - 55 megatons

5. Britain - 16 megatons

Humorous fact: A single Chinese DF-3A/CSS-2 IRBM or DF-4/CSS-3 ICBM with a 3.3 megaton warhead has over three times the destructive firepower in the entire Indian nuclear arsenal. In general, a thermonuclear warhead is roughly 100 times more powerful than an equivalent atomic warhead.

References:

Russia: NTI: Russia - Nuclear Disarmament
United States: NTI: United States - Nuclear Disarmament
China: NTI: China - Nuclear Disarmament
France: NTI: France - Nuclear Disarmament
Britain: NTI: United Kingdom - Nuclear Disarmament

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Rankings of atomic/fission bomb powers:

6. Israel: 1500-4000 kt (or 1.5 to 4 megatons)

7. India: 800 Kt ~ 1000 Kt. (or 0.8 to 1 megaton)

8. Pakistan: 600 kt - 1000 kt (or 0.6 to 1 megaton)

[note: 1,000 kilotons equal only 1 megaton]

References:

Israel: NTI: Israel - Nuclear Disarmament
India: NTI: India - Nuclear Disarmament
Pakistan: NTI: Pakistan - Nuclear Disarmament

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India only has low-yield atomic weapons. China can do what it likes.

China must never allow expansionist and imperialist India to develop thermonuclear weapons. It was only decades after independence that India annexed Sikkim (in 1975) and South Tibet (in 1986). The British have gone home and left their former Hong Kong colony. The Portuguese have also gone home and left their former colony in Macau.

We will eventually kick Indian imperialists out of Sikkim and South Tibet and send you packing.

Currently, India only possesses pathetically weak 4 to 25 kiloton atomic weapons. In comparison to a single Chinese 3.3 megaton thermonuclear weapon (which is over 100 times more powerful), Indian atomic weapons are like little firecrackers. However, at an unknown point in the future, I believe India will eventually develop a crude thermonuclear device. It could be 25, 50, or 75 years in the future.

Regardless of the exact time of India's development of a crude thermonuclear bomb, I have already formulated China's strategic neutron-bomb response, military control of Indian airfields, and survey and collection of the raw ores (e.g. uranium, thorium, and existing plutonium) to produce Indian fissile material.

A future Indian Nehru must never possess the capability to truly threaten China.

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U.S. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory concluded the Indian thermonuclear device was a failure.

Reference (from Federation of American Scientists): Nuclear Weapons - India Nuclear Forces
 
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Do you think Chinese will fund it for Americans. It will take a massive loan to Americans for this to happen lol
 
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Do you think Chinese will fund it for Americans. It will take a massive loan to Americans for this to happen lol

Let me warn you ... your message will soon be lost since Martian2 has decided to fill the next 24 pages of this thread with his "megatonnnnnage". :laugh:

Anyway, things in this thread are of a much more ludicrous nature .. .. than who bought Uncle Sam the bullet which was shot into the forehead of dear "Osama"...

This thread is about Martian2's megattonnnage..

Enjoy the photoshop warrior :tup:
 
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Obama's $30 million pledge to Aquino can't even buy a single Chinook helicopter

It should be obvious to everyone the U.S. only lends verbal support to the Philippines. With Obama's pledge of $30 million to the Philippines in military aid for 2012, the Filipinos can't even buy a single $35 million American Chinook helicopter.

The real message from the U.S. to the Philippines: You're on your own against China. Good luck!

Reference: Boeing CH-47 Chinook - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Normally, I don't post other people's comments. However, this one is pretty funny.

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"Author: Kobo-Daishi
Date: 06-10-12 16:29

Dear all,

The Philippine government should use the $30 million to buy Mega Millions lottery tickets. ;-0

Sometimes the payout reaches as high as $656 million. Okay, the one time the jackpot did reach that amount two tickets were winners so the actual jackpot per ticket was $274 million. ;-0

Or nearly 9 times $30 million. ;0"
 
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Normally, I don't post other people's comments. However, this one is pretty funny.

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"Author: Kobo-Daishi
Date: 06-10-12 16:29

Dear all,

The Philippine government should use the $30 million to buy Mega Millions lottery tickets. ;-0

Sometimes the payout reaches as high as $656 million. Okay, the one time the jackpot did reach that amount two tickets were winners so the actual jackpot per ticket was $274 million. ;-0

Or nearly 9 times $30 million. ;0"


Yeah, I remember that Mega Million draw at the beginning of last month, I spent $20 for naught, well not exactly because I did enjoy the anticipations. It was the only time I bought a Lotto ticket in 5 years.
 
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This Martian guy doesn't understand one point very simple, if China does nuke India and obliterate it completely it means it would exexpend all its force what about America and Russia?? your deterrence against them will be minimal and how long will it take for China to build such force again?? End of India doesn't gaurantee Chinese survival does it?? Will Americans sit idle (not for any love for India but for their safety) they will either attack or the worst nuke u into submission telling the world how crazy u are and they will agree too.... Pakistan will face the worst of it , the nuclear debris flying towards them and not to miss the small(as decided by martian) but sure nuking we will do to China. It is complete worst scenario for China from there.
 
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Let me warn you ... your message will soon be lost since Martian2 has decided to fill the next 24 pages of this thread with his "megatonnnnnage". :laugh:

Anyway, things in this thread are of a much more ludicrous nature .. .. than who bought Uncle Sam the bullet which was shot into the forehead of dear "Osama"...

This thread is about Martian2's megattonnnage..

Enjoy the photoshop warrior :tup:

I find martians' posts very educational.

By educational of course I mean a full 180 from topic relevance.

Chinese domination of other asian militaries status:
[ ] Not told
[ ] Told
[X] 3.3 Megatold
 
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This Martian guy doesn't understand one point very simple, if China does nuke India and obliterate it completely it means it would exexpend all its force what about America and Russia?? your deterrence against them will be minimal and how long will it take for China to build such force again?? End of India doesn't gaurantee Chinese survival does it?? Will Americans sit idle (not for any love for India but for their safety) they will either attack or the worst nuke u into submission telling the world how crazy u are and they will agree too.... Pakistan will face the worst of it , the nuclear debris flying towards them and not to miss the small(as decided by martian) but sure nuking we will do to China. It is complete worst scenario for China from there.

China is worried about Indian radioactive fallout

Actually, I think China has plenty of extra thermonuclear weapons hidden in its 5,000km "Underground Great Wall."

Practically speaking, the biggest deterrent against the use of Chinese 3.3-megaton thermonuclear weapons against India is the problem of radioactive fallout. I'm pretty sure the high-altitude winds blow predominantly from the west to the east. Nuking India will spread fallout throughout China.

Therefore, nuking India is the absolute last military measure. Unless the Indian military launches an atomic warhead at a Chinese city and enrages the CCP, I don't think a megaton Chinese thermonuclear warhead will ever explode over India.
 
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^^^ You've been a major dissappointment already.

It looks like the famed "Martian2" is dead.

.. don't know what killed the "The Martian2" .. who could single handedly fill up 20 to even 50 pages worth of megatonnnagge and bombardment...

Indeed, are you the same guy... or just a poor proxy?

(was he an old guy .. or sick .. is the real one still alive) ???
 
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Martian2, what you fail to realize is that the Philippines does not need huge Military AID because we all know that China is to Chicken **** to strike first.

nuff said, go home and jack off to these Chinese Communist scum you love so dearly... and all this talk about how China is SOOOO Superior to everyone is a joke... keep it up tho I need something to laugh about.
 
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Martian2, what you fail to realize is that the Philippines does not need huge Military AID because we all know that China is to Chicken **** to strike first.

nuff said, go home and jack off to these Chinese Communist scum you love so dearly... and all this talk about how China is SOOOO Superior to everyone is a joke... keep it up tho I need something to laugh about.

China Inc. comes first

We've all noticed China takes at least a month to get riled up.

Prior to the 1962 Sino-Indian War, China took months (or maybe years) and kept warning the Indians via the People's Daily newspaper. The Indians ignored the warnings and China finally lost patience.

We're seeing the same pattern today. Major CCP-affiliated newspapers express annoyance, offer of diplomacy, and slowly increase the severity of warnings. First, China sends out small patrol boats. Next comes bigger maritime boats. Finally, after a month or longer, we may finally see a warship.

I guess it's just national character. If the CCP sent out a fleet of 7,000-ton Type 052C destroyers, Type 054A frigates, and Type 093 Shang-class nuclear submarines then the Philippines might shut the hell up a lot sooner.

However, China looks like a business. The global image of China Inc. is very important and Chinese military power takes forever to manifest itself. At least this way, the Philippines can't say they didn't have adequate time and opportunities to step away from the brink. The Chinese method is excruciatingly slow, but it's fair. You have to insist on war over months and then the CCP will oblige you.
 
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