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The US deep state is finding itself more and more isolated in Pakistan

LOL the deep state turd is more worried about corona spread in Pakistan than his own country that leads the chart of death and infections.



LOL it is a joy to read his rants and frustrations against Pakistan. Basically the deep state moron is putting to words what his superiors only dare speak behind closed doors. We shouldn't be under any illusion. The typical CIA agent has a similar thought process regarding Pakistan. These people are nurtured with these ideas. These aren't mere words, but genuine feelings.
Spread of Corona/ number of infected/ deaths in US vs other countries is not the issue here. Pakistan has done really nothing to contain it, and it is only by the will and Grace of Allah almighty who is protecting Pakistan. Be thankful.
US has a very high amount of travelers from all over the world and thus the spread of infection was inevitable without an early lockdown. The demographics show that also with the east coast states of NY/NJ/Florida and the west coast travel stop California being hit initially and the hardest. Despite warnings airports were not shut down,no one planned properly and did not take the issue seriously but that is a whole another debate.
The main cause of rants and noise is the realization that as the result of getting hit hard with the Corona virus and resultant shutdown leading to a massive hit on the economy (despite pouring 3-4 trillion $ into the market to try and sustain it), US is on the brink of a Depression (my feeling it that it has already plunged into one) with over 40 million lost jobs in 4 weeks and counting.
Trump is an idiot but has the sense to realize that it will take several years for the economy to rebound (thus the push to open up the states quickly despite warnings from healthcare authorities). In the meanwhile China is all set to overtake USA as the next economic powerhouse and economic leader of the world and CPEC is the key to that objective also !
Now you can do the math and figure out the meaning behind his words.
 
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We have discussed Michael Rubin's unhealthy obsession with Pakistan in exquisite detail before. There is general consensus that Michael is paranoid and the angry face of US deep state. The man is unhinged and of course extremely bitter. Mostly like his deep state counterparts.

LOL Take this piece as always with a pinch of salt, but also take an opportunity to filter and extract the bits and pieces where the deep state maniac is truly speaking the mind of his superiors.
someone should tag him and bring him to pdf :lol::lol::lol:
 
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Spread of Corona/ number of infected/ deaths in US vs other countries is not the issue here. Pakistan has done really nothing to contain it, and it is only by the will and Grace of Allah almighty who is protecting Pakistan. Be thankful.
US has a very high amount of travelers from all over the world and thus the spread of infection was inevitable without an early lockdown. The demographics show that also with the east coast states of NY/NJ/Florida and the west coast travel stop California being hit initially and the hardest. Despite warnings airports were not shut down,no one planned properly and did not take the issue seriously but that is a whole another debate.
The main cause of rants and noise is the realization that as the result of getting hit hard with the Corona virus and resultant shutdown leading to a massive hit on the economy (despite pouring 3-4 trillion $ into the market to try and sustain it), US is on the brink of a Depression (my feeling it that it has already plunged into one) with over 40 million lost jobs in 4 weeks and counting.
Trump is an idiot but has the sense to realize that it will take several years for the economy to rebound (thus the push to open up the states quickly despite warnings from healthcare authorities). In the meanwhile China is all set to overtake USA as the next economic powerhouse and economic leader of the world and CPEC is the key to that objective also !
Now you can do the math and figure out the meaning behind his words.

You didn’t understand the point of mentioning US deaths and infection rate.

The American author rants about a fake corona pandemic in Pakistan:

While Pakistan has struggled with moderate succeed in stamping out hotspots where the coronavirus has erupted, communities living along the corridor in Gilgit-Baltistan, Azad Kashmir, Punjab, Sindh and Baluchistan are fearful that Chinese trade and traffic along the corridor as well as its expedition of internal Pakistani commerce across regions, could enable the epidemic to spread like a wildfire. It may be this pressure which is leading Prime Minister Imran Khan to lift Pakistan’s lockdown prematurely.

This is extremely ironic considering how his own country the US has the highest number of deaths and infections. Obviously the author is peddling lies and he needs to be confronted accordingly.

someone should tag him and bring him to pdf :lol::lol::lol:

I am pretty sure that many Americans belonging to intel community and otherwise visit PDF to gauge the mood and learn about our feelings. Trust me, that Rubin bastard probably even visits this forum. We have seen that in the past various authors have visited PDF and even used it as a source for their articles.

LOL BBC even claimed that influential figures in Pakistan take their input from PDF.
 
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maybe we are not being good hosts to our guest Rubin! :fans:

Michael Rubin is exactly what is wrong with America. Crazy lunatic peddling lies.

The Americans ditched Pakistan and got in bed with India. When Pakistan chose a different path the Americans couldn’t accept the new reality. American deep state is a sore loser that doesn’t know when to let go. A confused bunch.
 
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Michael Rubin is exactly what is wrong with America. Crazy lunatic peddling lies.

The Americans ditched Pakistan and got in bed with India. When Pakistan chose a different path the Americans couldn’t accept the new reality. American deep state is a sore loser that doesn’t know when to let go. A confused bunch.
Actually greatfull to such people they have damaged the prestige of their america. Now in a world where more than one enemy exists thanks to these people.
 
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Actually greatfull to such people they have damaged the prestige of their america. Now in a world where more than one enemy exists thanks to these people.

You are correct. We need such lunatics to set the record straight. The deep state and Democrats have been feeding lies to the world. Now they have a laundry list of problems and enemies. The US deep state is surrounded by epic challenges. It is not the USSR era where there was only one enemy to confront. Today the US has so many foes and it is unable to deal with these multiple challenges.
 
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You didn’t understand the point of mentioning US deaths and infection rate.

The American author rants about a fake corona pandemic in Pakistan:

While Pakistan has struggled with moderate succeed in stamping out hotspots where the coronavirus has erupted, communities living along the corridor in Gilgit-Baltistan, Azad Kashmir, Punjab, Sindh and Baluchistan are fearful that Chinese trade and traffic along the corridor as well as its expedition of internal Pakistani commerce across regions, could enable the epidemic to spread like a wildfire. It may be this pressure which is leading Prime Minister Imran Khan to lift Pakistan’s lockdown prematurely.

This is extremely ironic considering how his own country the US has the highest number of deaths and infections. Obviously the author is peddling lies and he needs to be confronted accordingly.



I am pretty sure that many Americans belonging to intel community and otherwise visit PDF to gauge the mood and learn about our feelings. Trust me, that Rubin bastard probably even visits this forum. We have seen that in the past various authors have visited PDF and even used it as a source for their articles.

LOL BBC even claimed that influential figures in Pakistan take their input from PDF.
I understand the point my friend.
The reason the author is ranting about the fake corona pandemic in Pakistan and fake concerns of the communities along the corridor is reflecting exactly the concerns of the deep state regarding CPEC and their intent of trying to make it fail by all means for reasons mentioned above.
 
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Spread of Corona/ number of infected/ deaths in US vs other countries is not the issue here. Pakistan has done really nothing to contain it, and it is only by the will and Grace of Allah almighty who is protecting Pakistan. Be thankful.
US has a very high amount of travelers from all over the world and thus the spread of infection was inevitable without an early lockdown. The demographics show that also with the east coast states of NY/NJ/Florida and the west coast travel stop California being hit initially and the hardest. Despite warnings airports were not shut down,no one planned properly and did not take the issue seriously but that is a whole another debate.
The main cause of rants and noise is the realization that as the result of getting hit hard with the Corona virus and resultant shutdown leading to a massive hit on the economy (despite pouring 3-4 trillion $ into the market to try and sustain it), US is on the brink of a Depression (my feeling it that it has already plunged into one) with over 40 million lost jobs in 4 weeks and counting.
Trump is an idiot but has the sense to realize that it will take several years for the economy to rebound (thus the push to open up the states quickly despite warnings from healthcare authorities). In the meanwhile China is all set to overtake USA as the next economic powerhouse and economic leader of the world and CPEC is the key to that objective also !
Now you can do the math and figure out the meaning behind his words.

I came back from Pakistan in March the screening was non-existing at US Airport (I landed in one of the 12 national airports designated by the Federal Govt), no temp check, no logging of information where one traveled, etc. just scan you passport and walk out. Once I saw this I wasn't surprised at the spread of this deadly virus.
 
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I am pretty sure that many Americans belonging to intel community and otherwise visit PDF to gauge the mood and learn about our feelings. Trust me, that Rubin bastard probably even visits this forum. We have seen that in the past various authors have visited PDF and even used it as a source for their articles.

LOL BBC even claimed that influential figures in Pakistan take their input from PDF.

This part is about us.

It has been easy for Pakistani nationalists to use anti-Americanism and grievances real or imagined in order to shirk responsibility for their own actions and cynically drive a wedge between Islamabad and Washington.
 
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maybe we are not being good hosts to our guest Rubin! :fans:
USA had all the time in the world to cozy up to Pakistan post Soviet collapse. They rather indulged in sanctioning and sabotaging development. China came up with a good counter answer to western imperialism by bringing in infrastructure projects that would benefit the countries in the long run.
Now when China has succeeded, the USA is worried that the regional politics that are playing out will lose them an ally worth their salt; while the new ally that they put their money on didn't prove their mettle post Feb 19.
 
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Pakistanis may soon die en masse for China’s interests, and the Pakistani government may allow it to happen. At issue is the nature of how Pakistan’s leaders have shifted their alliance partners from the United States to China.

by Michael Rubin

Pakistanis may soon die en masse for China’s interests, and the Pakistani government may allow it to happen. At issue is the nature of how Pakistan’s leaders have shifted their alliance partners from the United States to China.

That the U.S.-Pakistan relationship has plummeted in recent years should not surprise. Pakistan was long an American Cold War ally but it was a partnership of last resort for both countries. President Harry S. Truman had initially sought an alliance with India. India was not only a democracy, but it also was home to the world’s second-largest population, and its ability to dominate the Indian Ocean made it a strategic prize. Indian prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru, rebuffed him, preferring instead to seek non-alignment. Pakistan had little choice but to work with the United States: To join the Non-Aligned Movement was to subordinate itself to India. Because the Non-Aligned Movement leaned toward the Soviet sphere of influence, Pakistan could also not trust Moscow to protect its interests vis-à-vis India, as Moscow would always side with Delhi for reasons of realpolitik.

Initially, both the United States and Pakistan were willing to put their grievances aside. Pakistan became a charter member of the Central Treaty Organization (CENTO) or “Baghdad Pact,” an Eisenhower-era grouping meant to serve as a corollary to NATO along the Soviet Union’s southern tier. The notion of mutual defense, however, took a hit when war erupted between India and Pakistan, first in 1965 and then again in 1971. Pakistan insisted India was the aggressor and demanded the United States come to its assistance. U.S. authorities, however, quietly blamed Pakistan for starting the conflict and refusing to come to Pakistan’s assistance. Pakistan lost both wars and nurtured a deep-seated grudge against the United States for Washington’s alleged betrayal.

From Pakistan’s perspective, the United States has also acted as a fair-weather friend. Beginning in the 1970s, Congress has imposed a series of arms embargoes and sanctions on Pakistan for its nuclear activities. Whenever Washington needed Islamabad’s assistance, however, the U.S. government waived sanctions only to reimpose them once it no longer needed Pakistan’s help.

The United States, of course, also had its grievances. Congress imposed sanctions for legitimate reasons. Pakistan’s support for terrorist groups remains inexcusable, and all countries should be outraged at Pakistan’s removal from their lists of almost four thousand terrorists in recent years, including Zakiur-Rehman Lakhvi, one of the masterminds of the 2008 Mumbai attacks, and Ahmed Omar Sheikh, Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl’s murderer. Pakistan has never fully accounted for the activities of nuclear scientist A.Q. Khan. Pakistan played a double-game with the Taliban and sheltered Al Qaeda leader Usama Bin Laden. The FBI has repeatedly disrupted Pakistani attempts to illegally acquire restricted goods and technologies to Pakistan. In January 2020, for example, the United States formally charged five Pakistani businessmen of running a network of front companies to illegally acquire U.S. technology to advance Pakistan’s nuclear program.

With such a long history of bad blood between the United States and Pakistan, the Pakistani turn toward China surprises no one. Pakistani leaders see in China strategic depth, an ally able to deter Indian retaliation across the line-of-control, and a partner unlikely to criticize Pakistani corruption, its poor treatment of religious minorities, and its internal human rights record. For China, Pakistan can be a major market, provide land links into West Asia, and a strategic port at Gwadar.

Pakistanis will soon realize—if they have not already—what a devil’s bargain their country has made. In China, Pakistan has tied itself to a country that is responsible for the incarceration in concentration camps of one million Muslims solely on the basis of their religion and it has partnered with a country that thinks nothing about killing Pakistanis and humiliating Pakistan.

Now, it is also increasingly clear that the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor [CPEC] may be becoming a major road for transmission into Pakistan and, more broadly, South Asia. While Pakistan has struggled with moderate succeed in stamping out hotspots where the coronavirus has erupted, communities living along the corridor in Gilgit-Baltistan, Azad Kashmir, Punjab, Sindh and Baluchistan are fearful that Chinese trade and traffic along the corridor as well as its expedition of internal Pakistani commerce across regions, could enable the epidemic to spread like a wildfire. It may be this pressure which is leading Prime Minister Imran Khan to lift Pakistan’s lockdown prematurely.

The full danger of spread along the CPEC may not yet be apparent. Weather blocks Corridor passes during winter, but as spring thaws the ice and snow, commerce usually explodes. Many Chinese workers had also returned home for the Chinese New Year, which coincided with necessary winter-related construction delay, but several hundred Chinese workers have now returned to Pakistan to work on the project, bringing the total numbers of Chinese workers on different CPEC projects to between ten thousand and fifteen thousand. There is no indication that China has set up any testing and quarantine sites for his CPEC workers in Pakistan.

Gilgit-Baltistan may be the canary in the coal mine as locals suffer for the sake of Pakistan’s China partnership. It is one of Pakistan’s harder-hit regions. It has only one testing center and can test only fifteen people daily. While there are reportedly nine ventilators in the region, local doctors estimate they need at least two hundred of them. Pakistani officials who have long neglected the region, even while working to strip away its right to self-rule.

Pakistani authorities in Islamabad may accept Chinese assurances in order not to hurt Pakistan’s bottom line and insult Beijing, never mind that it was Chinese lies and obfuscation that enabled the epidemic to spread so far in the first place.


It has been easy for Pakistani nationalists to use anti-Americanism and grievances real or imagined in order to shirk responsibility for their own actions and cynically drive a wedge between Islamabad and Washington. China has simultaneously courted Pakistan as Islamabad looked for new partners. Pakistanis may soon recognize, however, that China seeks not a partner, but a colonial vassal, the deaths of whose citizens it sees as wholly irrelevant.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/pakistan-nothing-more-colony-china-151106




A jew writing about us...lol

no mention of indian terrorism, indian abuse of human , indian treatment minorities etc...

what a typical infidel... talk about one side on the other.


they are upset with Pakistan relations with China... i find that the most hilarious ... i mean they and what army is going to stop this?...

but please keep this up!.. the more you complain the more we know we are on the right path.

Chinese lies and obfuscation that enabled the epidemic to spread so far in the first place.


and no mention of american incompetent in containing it.... countries closer to China, such south korea, Australia, singapore did a dam good job.. but when it comes to america..."Ask China"..

lol
 
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